2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

LGB

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If Adam Jiricek doesn’t have a strong finish to the season I’ll be worried. Not yet though. Hopefully he’s able to play at the WJC. In his 1 period of action as a 17 year old I thought he looked pretty good. I think he’ll have a strong WJC playing with his countrymen and carry that confidence back to the OHL for a strong second half.
 
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This is kind of my thoughts on the Jiricek situation as well. I wasn't super high on us picking Adam and with all the injuries I am pretty worried about his development as well, wouldn't say I am ready to jump ship on him completely but if we did I wouldn't be upset about it. I don't really get the need to go grab his brother, who according to Jacket's fans hasn't really progressed at all the last couple years and then has a bad attitude about it as well on top of that. I know dmen generally take longer to develop so I would be willing to take a chance on him but I am not giving up a 1st or Bolduc or any premium asset to get him here.
There's no way im selling low on a player we just drafted 6 months ago. Defensemen usually take years to develop, i give the kid a much bigger leash, especially with our current roster needs.
 

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There's no way im selling low on a player we just drafted 6 months ago. Defensemen usually take years to develop, i give the kid a much bigger leash, especially with our current roster needs.
That's why I said I am not ready to give up on him, if we are moving on from him I would think it would be something similar to a Rundblad or Bokk situation where is included in a trade for an upgrade, not talking about just dumping him to dump him. I agree that he isn't going anywhere anytime soon, just reiterating that missing 2 consecutive seasons in such a crucial period for development is very concerning.
 

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Yes easily. I’d love that.

Same, and I’m a fan of Faulk. I would love to have an old school type guy like Trouba on our blue line.

A classic example of the grass is always greener. You may argue that Faulk hasn't been worth his contract, but he has certainly stepped up in multiple seasons with impressive point totals and offensive production despite having minimal top powerplay minutes. At the same time, the NY Rangers have been actively trying to shed Trouba's 8.0 M AAV contract for a multitude of reasons. That's not a trade any St. Louis fan should love making.
 

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A classic example of the grass is always greener. You may argue that Faulk hasn't been worth his contract, but he has certainly stepped up in multiple seasons with impressive point totals and offensive production despite having minimal top powerplay minutes. At the same time, the NY Rangers have been actively trying to shed Trouba's 8.0 M AAV contract for a multitude of reasons. That's not a trade any St. Louis fan should love making.
Cool, that’s your opinion but you don’t speak for every St. Louis fan.

Trouba puts up respectable point totals as well. I think he’s a better player. Faulk is an offensive defenseman who can’t QB a powerplay - him not getting PP time is a knock on his abilities, it’s not like coaching is preventing him from that. It’s close between the two, but Trouba is 2 years younger and also has 1 less year on his contract than Faulk. It makes sense simply from that standpoint.

As for the Rangers actively trying to shed his contract, well we don’t know how active they’ve been in that. He’s been in some rumors but he also plays in NY. Faulk plays in small market STL with a GM who doesn’t let things get out. How do you know we haven’t shopped Faulk around just as much? I’m sure we have at times, like we were doing with Krug. Either way, I don’t think who’s been in trade rumors more has anything to do with their value.
 

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A classic example of the grass is always greener. You may argue that Faulk hasn't been worth his contract, but he has certainly stepped up in multiple seasons with impressive point totals and offensive production despite having minimal top powerplay minutes. At the same time, the NY Rangers have been actively trying to shed Trouba's 8.0 M AAV contract for a multitude of reasons. That's not a trade any St. Louis fan should love making.

Agree, that would be a terrible idea. I guess now that some fans have decided in their own mind that Faulk "sucks" they're willing to take on a worse contract in Trouba to get rid of him. Was nice seeing Trouba get stripped of the puck and look foolish on the Kyrou goal last night though.
 

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I wouldn't say Trouba has the worse contract, 1 year less is a pretty significant factor, especially with the decline in Faulk's play. If Faulk starts producing again, that would change, but 2.5 more seasons of current Faulk isn't something I'm looking forward to.

Each have their pros and cons, neither are what they used to be. In my view, you lean Faulk if you think his offense rebounds, and you lean Trouba if you like they idea of being able to ease up on the minutes of Parayko, making him more effective by not having to carry as heavy of a defensive load.
 
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That's tough. I like physical hockey and I'm not a Justin Faulk fan, but Trouba has been a nightmare defensively at times this season without the offensive upside of a guy like Faulk. It would be nice to be out of the contract a year earlier, but I feel like we wouldn't have toot difficult of a time finding someone to take Faulk off our hands.

I think it's irrelevant anyway because Trouba has been more than willing to waive his NTC and I don't think he'd be thrilled to leave NYC for STL.
 

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Yeah, Trouba has a 15 team NTC, it's possible we are on it, but really depends on how he put it together. Once you put the Canadian teams and places like Buffalo, it kind of becomes a coin flip on teams like us. Faulk has a full NTC right now. Rangers have the playoffs which would make for an easy waive, but I get the vibe that Faulk is a player that likes staying out of the spotlight, so he might not be a New York type of a guy.
 

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I see no point in making a move to acquire a guy in that role if he doesn’t project to be part of the next contending core. I’d rather identify a rising but more obscure guy who is outplaying his projected draft ceiling. No, I don’t know who that is, but I hope my GM does.

I was also thinking that I’m more interested in Armstrong’s input in personnel decisions than I was about Bannister. He’s coached at a few stops and knows a lot more guys.
 
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I see no point in making a move to acquire a guy in that role if he doesn’t project to be part of the next contending core. I’d rather identify a rising but more obscure guy who is outplaying his projected draft ceiling. No, I don’t know who that is, but I hope my GM does.

I was also thinking that I’m more interested in Armstrong’s input in personnel decisions than I was about Bannister. He’s coached at a few stops and knows a lot more guys.
Or even take a flier on a guy like Fabbro. Now I'm fine that we didn't put a claim in on Fabbro, but in theory if we were actually in the market for a RD, I'd rather have done Fabbro than a trade for Trouba.
 

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