2024-2025 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread.

[Snubbed4Vezina]

The (off) white version they used in the Winter Classic in Minnesota is my favorite jersey of theirs, they should use those with the 17 Classic jerseys as their homes. Would be sick.

That's my ideal set as well. It's unique and I love it.

 

[Brian39]

I've been waiting for a rebrand for a few years now. I was pretty disappointed in 2014 when the Blues "debuted" their current home/away jerseys only to essentially copy their design from the 1990s-early 2000s. I thought the Reebok jerseys were a step forward, but it doesn't surprise me how often organizations want to hold on to the past given how conservative the league is. I feel sorry for Kings fans because their recent "rebrand" was going back to their old chevy logo, which many of their younger fans can't really connect with. It is true that retros and throwbacks have been a hit (Mighty Ducks), but it's only a matter of time when teams begin to run out of them and have to start thinking creatively again.

I really, really like the current jerseys and I was very happy when we got rid of that awful RBK Edge piping and went 'back' to the early 2000s look.

That said, I would have no problem making the powder blue our 'main' color because it would address my only 2 complaints of the current set. My biggest complaint right now is the white numbers. I still greatly prefer the yellow numbers and I think we'd pretty much have to go with yellow numbers on the powder blue. My other complaint is that our current shade of blue is pretty damn similar to Tampa, Toronto, Vancouver, and the Rangers. Buffalo, Edmonton, and the Isles aren't far off the shade either. I think you could pretty reasonably argue that there are currently 8 teams with a 'royal blue' home jersey in the NHL. Going to the powder blue would give us a unique primary color.

I hope we don't lean too far into the cream if we are making this the primary branding though. I like the cream for winter classic jerseys made to look retro, but I don't want it every night. Goalie pad manufacturers really struggle to match cream coloring too. Give me straight white roads and straight white accents on the powder blues if they are becoming everyday jerseys.

But most importantly, let's get that STL treble clef logo on some official merchandise I can buy. Keep it as a shoulder logo, or a helmet logo, or a pant logo. I really don't care how they want to use it (so long as it isn't a new primary logo). But let's get it on some hats I can buy.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

The piping made all of the jerseys look droopy. All downward slopey n stuff.

The STL treble clef is brilliant.

 

[HighNote]

I really, really like the current jerseys and I was very happy when we got rid of that awful RBK Edge piping and went 'back' to the early 2000s look.

That said, I would have no problem making the powder blue our 'main' color because it would address my only 2 complaints of the current set. My biggest complaint right now is the white numbers. I still greatly prefer the yellow numbers and I think we'd pretty much have to go with yellow numbers on the powder blue. My other complaint is that our current shade of blue is pretty damn similar to Tampa, Toronto, Vancouver, and the Rangers. Buffalo, Edmonton, and the Isles aren't far off the shade either. I think you could pretty reasonably argue that there are currently 8 teams with a 'royal blue' home jersey in the NHL. Going to the powder blue would give us a unique primary color.

I hope we don't lean too far into the cream if we are making this the primary branding though. I like the cream for winter classic jerseys made to look retro, but I don't want it every night. Goalie pad manufacturers really struggle to match cream coloring too. Give me straight white roads and straight white accents on the powder blues if they are becoming everyday jerseys.

But most importantly, let's get that STL treble clef logo on some official merchandise I can buy. Keep it as a shoulder logo, or a helmet logo, or a pant logo. I really don't care how they want to use it (so long as it isn't a new primary logo). But let's get it on some hats I can buy.

Perhaps they could do a white version of the powder blue jerseys but have some cream accents, such as a stripe on the sleeves or maybe around the collar?

 

[Bluesnatic27]

I’ve given up on the powder blue. I like it as a novelty only but I seem to be in a minority on that. I’m gonna have to swallow a lot of annoyance watching it every home game if that’s how they want it.

I just hope that they don’t touch the current Blue note. It sounds like they will go to the WC jersey style. But the current note looks the best, full stop.

 

[TheOrganist]

I’ve given up on the powder blue. I like it as a novelty only but I seem to be in a minority on that. I’m gonna have to swallow a lot of annoyance watching it every home game if that’s how they want it.

I just hope that they don’t touch the current Blue note. It sounds like they will go to the WC jersey style. But the current note looks the best, full stop.

You and I both...I'm old school but for whatever reason I do not like the Powder Blue...I dislike the color scheme...it's not really visually appealing against some of our more traditional rivals like Chicago. I'm just not a fan. I love the current uni's.

 

[BlueMed]

I really, really like the current jerseys and I was very happy when we got rid of that awful RBK Edge piping and went 'back' to the early 2000s look.

That said, I would have no problem making the powder blue our 'main' color because it would address my only 2 complaints of the current set. My biggest complaint right now is the white numbers. I still greatly prefer the yellow numbers and I think we'd pretty much have to go with yellow numbers on the powder blue. My other complaint is that our current shade of blue is pretty damn similar to Tampa, Toronto, Vancouver, and the Rangers. Buffalo, Edmonton, and the Isles aren't far off the shade either. I think you could pretty reasonably argue that there are currently 8 teams with a 'royal blue' home jersey in the NHL. Going to the powder blue would give us a unique primary color.

I hope we don't lean too far into the cream if we are making this the primary branding though. I like the cream for winter classic jerseys made to look retro, but I don't want it every night. Goalie pad manufacturers really struggle to match cream coloring too. Give me straight white roads and straight white accents on the powder blues if they are becoming everyday jerseys.

But most importantly, let's get that STL treble clef logo on some official merchandise I can buy. Keep it as a shoulder logo, or a helmet logo, or a pant logo. I really don't care how they want to use it (so long as it isn't a new primary logo). But let's get it on some hats I can buy.

I'm totally with you on the treble clef logo. There was way too much foreshadowing from the social media department to not think it wouldn't be included in the near future. My issue with the "new" and current jerseys is how blocky/chunky they look. The horizontal stripes are too wide and lack symmetry. Also, the yellow doesn't really look good as a stand alone color, especially on the away socks. I really liked the RBK Edge piping because the yellow was used as an accent color rather than as a primary color, especially with the white name plate and yellow numbering. The Blues have debuted a new/retro jersey every year or two since the first Winter Classic in 2017. At this point, we've almost run out of throwbacks and will be due for upgrades on the home/away set given that it's been 11 years (and counting) since our last one. I'm sure Fanatics will have a say in the matter.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

What is it about hockey uniforms that engenders so much attention from fans? I’ve spent years on basketball and football forums, and don’t recall a fraction of the discussion that sounded like fashion critics. Maybe it happens with baseball too, I wouldn’t know.

I see it on other team’s forums. There is something about hockey that attracts more passion about the designs.

 

[BlueDream]

I'm totally with you on the treble clef logo. There was way too much foreshadowing from the social media department to not think it wouldn't be included in the near future. My issue with the "new" and current jerseys is how blocky/chunky they look. The horizontal stripes are too wide and lack symmetry. Also, the yellow doesn't really look good as a stand alone color, especially on the away socks. I really liked the RBK Edge piping because the yellow was used as an accent color rather than as a primary color, especially with the white name plate and yellow numbering. The Blues have debuted a new/retro jersey every year or two since the first Winter Classic in 2017. At this point, we've almost run out of throwbacks and will be due for upgrades on the home/away set given that it's been 11 years (and counting) since our last one. I'm sure Fanatics will have a say in the matter.

Well you’re in the minority about the RBK Edge jerseys. The piping was absolutely awful and that’s why teams are moving away from that.

 

[Memento]

What is it about hockey uniforms that engenders so much attention from fans? I’ve spent years on basketball and football forums, and don’t recall a fraction of the discussion that sounded like fashion critics. Maybe it happens with baseball too, I wouldn’t know.

I see it on other team’s forums. There is something about hockey that attracts more passion about the designs.

I’m on RamsOnDemand (yes, I’m still a Rams fan because I grew up with that team since 1999), and there’s seemingly a uniform thread that gets ten pages every year.

Personally, I don’t care what the team wears, so long as they play well on the ice/field.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I’m on RamsOnDemand (yes, I’m still a Rams fan because I grew up with that team since 1999), and there’s seemingly a uniform thread that gets ten pages every year.

Personally, I don’t care what the team wears, so long as they play well on the ice/field.

I care! I want them to look great while winning!!

 

[Reality Czech]

I am asking why Bolduc isn't being given a bigger role (Ok maybe more like demanding then asking) - that's literally the whole point of my post(s). I'm a f***ing guy on a couch, if I can see it, why can't they? To come back and say, Oh but they make all this money, clearly they know better then you:

Gustav Forsling was placed on Waivers. He's went on to become the #1 D for the Stanley Cup Champion Panthers. Adolis Garcia (Baseball player) was DFA'd twice and went on to win ALCS MVP, a Gold Glove, and make the All-MLB team for end of year all-star while winning a World Series. I could go on.

To act like people in a position of power and authority can't make mistakes is the dumbest f***ing take I've ever heard.

Seems like you're taking this a bit too seriously bud. While I don't really see the point in discussing it with you any further, obviously I never said people in authority don't make mistakes. But you might want to question your own beliefs from time to time and ask yourself why isn't he being given a bigger role RIGHT NOW. I'd suggest its either for defensive reasons or the fact that Monty doesn't want to break up a Thomas line that has been playing extremely well lately. That's just my common sense speaking, I don't have any numbers to back that up.

I think it's fair to say Monty and the coaching staff have considered all options and decided the current lineup is working best right now. Bolduc will get his chances eventually but once a line is clicking then why break that up? Bolduc has been mostly a PP specialist lately, which is fine, but I don't see why you're getting so emotional about this lol. You're so overconfident that you're 100% right about this that you're not even considering other points of view. The guy on the couch can also be wrong, and is wrong more often than the coaching staff that watches these players a lot more closely.

 

[Hrkac Circus]

Our success in the first round of the playoffs hinge primarily on the availability and effectiveness of Holloway. Who would have predicted such a thing last October?

 

[DatDude44]

Next year:
Buch-Thomas-Snuggy
Holloway-Schenn-Kyrou
Bolduc- Dvorsky- Neighbours

Should be a fun top 9. Obvi the lines might be different but i love the outlook

 

[TheDizee]

i'd like to see suter resigned and faulk moved out. also would be open to moving our 1st round pick for a young elite defenseman

 

[PeoriaBlues309]

Next year:
Buch-Thomas-Snuggy
Holloway-Schenn-Kyrou
Bolduc- Dvorsky- Neighbours

Should be a fun top 9. Obvi the lines might be different but i love the outlook

Barring a surprising trade of Schenn (with an upgrade at 2C), these are exactly the lines I want to see next year.

I know it’s such a small thing and doesn’t really matter, but I think Bolduc would be the RW on the third line, not Jake.

 

[AyeBah]

i'd like to see suter resigned and faulk moved out. also would be open to moving our 1st round pick for a young elite defenseman

Yeah 1/2 of faulk/leddy need to be gone. Ideally both but that may be a stretch. No more sunny as 3c no matter what to and this team can compete for the division.

 

[PeoriaBlues309]

Yeah 1/2 of faulk/leddy need to be gone. Ideally both but that may be a stretch. No more sunny as 3c no matter what to and this team can compete for the division.

I think Leddy gets moved if Suter returns next year.

I also hope we get a young RD that can eventually move Faulk down to the third pair by the end of next season.

Fowler-Parayko
Broberg-Faulk/TBD
Suter/Leddy-TBD/Faulk
Tucker

 

[AyeBah]

I think Leddy gets moved if Suter returns next year.

I also hope we get a young RD that can eventually move Faulk down to the third pair by the end of next season.

Fowler-Parayko
Broberg-Faulk/TBD
Suter/Leddy-TBD/Faulk
Tucker

We would have a ton of capspace to work with either in the trade or UFA market. Also would like to move our 1st depending on the market

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

 

[BadgersandBlues]

Interesting - I would have thought moving out Saad would have put us in the clear. I thought Brian39 was doing some back of napkin math in a previous post and said that we weren't going to get hit by the overage charge anymore now that Saad was gone - but I'm sure the NHL will announce it either way.

 

[Brian39]

For the life of me I can't figure out how Puckpedia got to that number.

We know that Suter hit all of his bonuses for $2.25M. Let's assume that Bolduc hit all of his $412k in potential bonuses to reach the maximum $2.637MM in potential bonuses (which I don't think he did, I think he only hit a single schedule A bonus for $250k). Those are the only two players on the roster with bonuses. Dvorsky has up to $550k in bonuses, but he absolutely did not earn any of them with 0 points in 2 games played.

How on Earth are we carrying $2.15M in bonuses into next season? Puckpedia shows us with $948k in cap space right now with our total spending under $87M. We're not dipping into our LTIR pool and should be able to apply our unspent cap money toward those bonuses. I really, really can't figure out why this overage would be over $2M.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Until I get official numbers, I don't really trust PuckPedia. There were stuff they put out during the offer-sheet time period that I didn't believe was correct. In my view, they aren't what CapFriendly was in terms of reliability.

 

[ds774622]

For the life of me I can't figure out how Puckpedia got to that number.

We know that Suter hit all of his bonuses for $2.25M. Let's assume that Bolduc hit all of his $412k in potential bonuses to reach the maximum $2.637MM in potential bonuses (which I don't think he did, I think he only hit a single schedule A bonus for $250k). Those are the only two players on the roster with bonuses. Dvorsky has up to $550k in bonuses, but he absolutely did not earn any of them with 0 points in 2 games played.

How on Earth are we carrying $2.15M in bonuses into next season? Puckpedia shows us with $948k in cap space right now with our total spending under $87M. We're not dipping into our LTIR pool and should be able to apply our unspent cap money toward those bonuses. I really, really can't figure out why this overage would be over $2M.

This is their calculation. https://puckpedia.com/news/25overage

Projecting a final cap hit of $87.7M and bonuses of $2.225M for Suter and $212.5K for Bolduc.

$88,000,000 - $87,715,978 - $2,225,000 - $212,500 = -$2,153,478.

Still missing $3...

 

[Brian39]

This is their calculation. https://puckpedia.com/news/25overage

Projecting a final cap hit of $87.7M and bonuses of $2.225M for Suter and $212.5K for Bolduc.

$88,000,000 - $87,715,978 - $2,225,000 - $212,500 = -$2,153,478.

Still missing $3...

Pretty surprised about that $87.7M calculation. I know we were going into LTIR and not banking space for about half the year, but we were also in the $84-$86.5M range from the end of January until the end of the season. I would have expected 2.5 months of being $1.5-$4M under the cap to bank more than $284k of cap space by the end of the year.

At the end of the day, I'm not really concerned with it. We could have saved more cap space by shuttling Dvorsky/Bolduc up and down on paper while they were up here and/or not signing Snuggy. I guess we also could have put Texier on waivers too. But I'm pretty content rewarding the youngsters with some NHL paychecks and maximizing our depth for a playoff push. Our cap structure is pretty great for next season and even if Krug tries to mount a comeback we have a bigger 'too many guys' problem than we do a 'cap space' problem. This leaves us with $6M in space with a 22 man roster for next season or $6M in space plus $6.5M of potential LTIR relief with 21 guys if Krug is done (which sounds like the reality). We should be able to shed one/some/all of Texier, Joseph, or Leddy if we find ourselves in need of space for an acquisition.