2024/2025 Around the League
- Thread starter forsbergavs32
- Start date
dahrougem2
Registered User
Sorry, Stevie, but that "core of young players" just isn't very good.
They've got a good winger in Raymond and two good defensemen in Seider and Edvinsson.
Beyond that? You've got a f*** ton of vets and useless young players, pal.
Yeah it's getting hot in that seat, but it will have to get hotter for them to fire him. He's to that organization as Sakic is to the Avs.
- Apr 25, 2006
- 52,825
- 57,747
"We try to expedite this thing"
Yes, for 3 years now. That's why your team sucks and you don't have enough good young players in the system.
I agree. He will get too much time.
BUT they are a mess. I never understood the Kane and Compher signings. Their team wasn't ready to compete.
His master plan seems ****
That or he's going to have to be the one to go through a rebuild as a coach, and have heavy say in how a team is built.
Yeah, Islanders is a bad fit for Roy IMO. That team has been BLAH for years. I think he needs more emotions to thrive as a coach. There's just no hype or energy.
- Apr 25, 2006
- 52,825
- 57,747
This is one of the shittiest rebuilds I've seen. It's one thing for Ottawa and Buffalo to not be able to get back on track, but Detroit went full Columbus Blue Jackets with their rebuild, and it's a guaranteed failure.
dahrougem2
Registered User
Gotta wonder how much pressure came from ownership to get them into the playoffs ASAP rather than tear it down to the gills and rebuild properly.
Perhaps they looked at teams like Buffalo, Anaheim and Ottawa and figured sometimes all-out rebuilds don't work so might as well "speed" things up by signing/trading for vets.
Oh well. I love seeing Detroit suck.
Sad really that they didn't learn from having to watch us rebuild twice.
I would enjoy a SCF against them to reignite the fire.
Everyone knew that team was on the down swing when he took that job. Who knows, maybe he knew it, and it's factored in, but it's hard to imagine him dealing with losing that much, and not many coaches survive the fire of rebuilding.
I was a little sad when that ended up being the team he came back with tbh.
He probably didn't get offers he wanted. Then decided to **** it. I hope he can turn it around, because I like Roy a lot. He makes the league more interesting just by presence.
- Aug 25, 2006
- 9,836
- 8,167
The difference being Sakic did a good job improving the team year over year until they won a cup.
Well, let's be clear, there were some setbacks. Some HUGE setbacks, notably from 2014 until 2017 they mostly went in the wrong direction. Some of that may have been on Roy but it was also on Sakic for sure.
I personally don't lay any of that failure on Roy, that Isles roster is old, slow, and not very good. The guy whose seat should be red, flaming hot is Lamoriello's.
I'm still very skeptical as to whether or not Paddy is a legit NHL coach but I don't think anyone could turn that ramshackle lineup into a winner.
Ceremony
How I choose to feel is how I am
- Jun 8, 2012
- 114,473
- 17,766
Yet another area in which Sakic is superior to Yzerman. Who'd a thought.
Avs_19
Registered User
- Jun 28, 2007
- 85,936
- 34,847
- Aug 25, 2006
- 9,836
- 8,167
IMO it was obvious Sakic and Roy were on different page. With that said I would like to see Roy with a roster he likes to see how he does with it but I am not convinced yet it would be successful.
expatriatedtexan
Illegitimati non carborundum
- Aug 17, 2005
- 19,554
- 16,667
I don't know when it happened, but I think I turned gay for Patrick Roy.
How can you not love the man? He realizes he can't strut around right now, screaming "Are you not entertainined?", so he's standing in front of the masses apologizing for not being entertaining and promises to work harder. It's crazy how screwed up sports can be where something as simple as an acknowledgement of an issue and an apology feels like a breath of fresh air.
As for how/if they can turn this around? Personally I think the game past Lou by a decade or two ago. He needs to go. As crazy at it seems, I'd probalby ask Patrick Roy to sit in on the interviews for the next GM. I wouldn't give him the ultimate power to make a decision, but I do value his thoughts and mind for the game and it would seem silly (almost irresponsible) to waste it by not taking his opinions into consideration on one of the toughest decisions an organization can make.
Unfortunately/Fortunately for their fans, I see a teardown and rebuild in their future. It's needed to happen for quite some time. They need a new core and those don't happen overnight.
dahrougem2
Registered User
Sakic had full control. I question if Yzerman has cartblanch, and wasn't pressured to make the playoffs as soon as possible. If he does, then yeah he's failed miserably.
The wings have never dropped their prices even a small amount during their rebuild. Tampa was like half the cost of wings tickets when I was there, and they were a playoff team.
No question he did a pretty good job with Tampa.
McMetal
Writer of Wrongs
- Sep 29, 2015
- 14,591
- 12,930
I don't think Parkkila not being a high level goalie himself is a barrier to being a good goalie coach. Some people are just better with theory than practice. I know a shitload about the principles of joke writing and stand-up performance, but I personally was only an OK comic. I had my moments, but I think those were carried more by my understanding of the nuts and bolts of the craft than by natural talent. Those who can't do, teach, and all that.
expatriatedtexan
Illegitimati non carborundum
- Aug 17, 2005
- 19,554
- 16,667
Debrincat-Copp-Kane seems like a line that would've been interesting 8-10 years ago (though Alex would be like 18).
dahrougem2
Registered User
The fact that DeBrincat was in a real cozy situation with Ottawa on the rise and forced his way to Detroit only to land with an incredibly old roster that has Andrew Copp and J.T Compher fighting over who the worse center for the 2nd line is warms my heart.
Not that Ottawa is anything special, but I think they have clearly identified a direction, have a path to pursuing it and likely make the playoffs this season provided goaltending holds up.
Detroit is going to miss the playoffs for the forseeable future.
Ad
Latest posts
-
-
-
-
Pre-Game Talk: The Dreaded Holidays Trip: Habs @ Panthers, Dec 28, 2024, 1 pm Est- Latest: Grate n Colorful Oz
