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Maybe he can eventually play at a top pairing level let alone a 1D level at some point. It's just a ridiculous expectation from him especially considering most teams already their 1D who's better Bo and most have guys that they expect to be their 1D and have a much better chance at being an actual 1D.


I mean if he wants to go play in Chicago or San Jose he could maybe be their #1. But theres very few teams where he'd compete to be a 1D.
There's quite a few teams he at least would get the opportunity or see a path to it, and realistically I think that's all he wants. A place where he could develop into the a top pairing/top PP role. Right now the pecking order in Buffalo is clearly Dahlin > Powers/Byram now and in the future.

I was going to list them, but honestly half the teams in the league fit that mold with a bunch of them being contenders like Toronto, Florida, LA, Carolina, Calgary, Boston, etc. He may not be the #1 instantly there, but there's a path.
 

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Well he won’t be a #1 in Vancouver either.

Of course Byram has to eventually earn it, but it's obvious he also wants to be in a spot where it's realistic to achieve. It's easier to become a #1D if you get thrown into that position and then grow to the role, instead of starting from the 2nd pair. Same goes for becoming a top line player.
On which teams is this even a possibility? Which teams is Byram thrown in as the number 1?
 

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Oh man.... we should have kept that guy at all costs !!!!!
He just needs to find bad enough team(no good #1) who pays enough and it's done.

Well he won’t be a #1 in Vancouver either.


On which teams is this even a possibility? Which teams is Byram thrown in as the number 1?

Yeah, he is over his head for sure. Begging to be something which he hasn't earned.
 

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Well he won’t be a #1 in Vancouver either.


On which teams is this even a possibility? Which teams is Byram thrown in as the number 1?

Seattle, San Jose, Calgary (if they trade Anderson), Chicago, Pittsburgh, or Toronto are all places where he might have a chance to become this.
 
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Seattle, San Jose, Calgary (if they trade Anderson), Chicago, Pittsburgh, or Toronto are all places where he might have a chance to become this.

Yeah, and most of those teams will have a good chance at drafting someone that promptly passes him.

It would be kinda hilarious to see Toronto go after him as their #1 though.
 

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Yeah, and most of those teams will have a good chance at drafting someone that promptly passes him.

It would be kinda hilarious to see Toronto go after him as their #1 though.

Not so sure about that. There’s a duality to Byram that we’ve seen at high levels. Lately, it seems like he’s been playing with an offensive focus like a swashbuckling pirate swinging into the offensive zone on a chandelier. He’s trying to carve out his career and get paid. But we’ve also seen him play a high level of defense on the biggest stage because that’s what the team needed. Byram has been a mystery box. But if he puts all those things together, you have a very lethal player. The 5th pick of the draft each year is hardly a guarantee to show this kind of talent.
 
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I don’t think Lou has ever been fired, has he? It’d be quite something if they did that. Frankly they should but I’d be stunned if they actually went through with it.

I’m not sure what they do with Roy. I agree it’s not his fault but I also don’t think he’s done very well as a head coach his second time around.
I don't think Lou's been fired either, but I do believe there are times he should have been.

This is definitely one of them. I'm not saying Roy is faultless in any way. I'm just saying these are the Avengers Lou asembled and I'm not sure they are up to the task.
 
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Not so sure about that. There’s a duality to Byram that we’ve seen at high levels. Lately, it seems like he’s been playing with an offensive focus like a swashbuckling pirate swinging into the offensive zone on a chandelier. He’s trying to carve out his career and get paid. But we’ve also seen him play a high level of defense on the biggest stage because that’s what the team needed. Byram has been a mystery box. But if he puts all those things together, you have a very lethal player. The 5th pick of the draft each year is hardly a guarantee to show this kind of talent.

I'm in a hyperbolic mood rN, but I was thinking SJ could be pretty lethal in a couple years if they got him, and he puts it together.
 

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I'm in a hyperbolic mood rN, but I was thinking SJ could be pretty lethal in a couple years if they got him, and he puts it together.

Your comment about high draft picks is valid. Teams see the best in them until they don’t. But isn’t it interesting to think of Toronto as a potential suitor for Byram? They have no one like him and won’t be drafting high enough any time soon.
 
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I'm in a hyperbolic mood rN, but I was thinking SJ could be pretty lethal in a couple years if they got him, and he puts it together.
Personally, I think Bo is still too high on himself to reach his potential.

He's good and will have a good career, given health. But I do wonder if he'll ever reach his true potential. I know he absolutely wants to, but am afraid he thinks he's already closer to it than he is. There's a lot of work to be done. Especially if he wants to be a team leader. At even strength he's 5th in xGF% for Dmen... on the Sabres. I understand he and Power are leading their Dmen in TOI, but man...Not a great look when Samuelsson, Dahlin, Jokihariju, and Connor Clifton are all ahead of you on pushing and controlling the game.
 
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Your comment about high draft picks is valid. Teams see the best in them until they don’t. But isn’t it interesting to think of Toronto as a potential suitor for Byram? They have no one like him and won’t be drafting high enough any time soon.

Yeah, it is, because right now no one should trade for him as is to be a #1 on a contender. That would be classic Toronto almost, but not quite.

I like Byram enough to not wish that place on him. They'd run him out of town after two weeks.

Personally, I think Bo is still too high on himself to reach his potential.

He's good and will have a good career, given health. But I do wonder if he'll ever reach his true potential. I know he absolutely wants to, but am afraid he thinks he's already closer to it than he is. There's a lot of work to be done. Especially if he wants to be a team leader. At even strength he's 5th in xGF% for Dmen... on the Sabres. I understand he and Power are leading their Dmen in TOI, but man...Not a great look when Samuelsson, Dahlin, Jokihariju, and Connor Clifton are all ahead of you on pushing and controlling the game.

I think if he calms down he can be what Toews is *not injured, but if he calms down.
 
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There's quite a few teams he at least would get the opportunity or see a path to it, and realistically I think that's all he wants. A place where he could develop into the a top pairing/top PP role. Right now the pecking order in Buffalo is clearly Dahlin > Powers/Byram now and in the future.

I was going to list them, but honestly half the teams in the league fit that mold with a bunch of them being contenders like Toronto, Florida, LA, Carolina, Calgary, Boston, etc. He may not be the #1 instantly there, but there's a path.
I mean I don't really see Bo forcing anyones hand to be the 1 in Florida, Carolina, Boston, LA. Maybe LA. But Byram would clearly be stuck behind Slavin, Forsling, and McAvoy. Even in Calgary Weeger is currently better than him and would be an obstacle. He could have a path to being a 1 in TOR but there's a good chance he'd just end up a worse version of Rielly. Until Bo actually either becomes a legit point producer or consistently good defender in the NHL no one will trust him to be a top pairing guy consistently.

Yeah, and most of those teams will have a good chance at drafting someone that promptly passes him.

It would be kinda hilarious to see Toronto go after him as their #1 though.
I think that's the big thing. Even if he goes to say Chicago, Levshunov is expected to be their long term 1. So there's a good chance his 1D role would get usurped there. Like even most of the bad teams have players that are currently better than him in a 1D role or project as just outright better players than he is right now.
 
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Yeah, it is, because right now no one should trade for him as is to be a #1 on a contender. That would be classic Toronto almost, but not quite.

I like Byram enough to not wish that place on him. They'd run him out of town after two weeks.



I think if he calms down he can be what Toews is *not injured, but if he calms down.
He has all the talent to be even better. Hell for a brief time when needed, he was. He played marvelously for us during the run. I'm just hoping that as he ages and matures he'll find that consistency we really wanted to see from him or at least a much highler low-end. I think he'll get there and would not bet against him. But man, we really needed a 2C and while Mitts is struggling, I still think it was absolutely the right call at the time (my biggest gripe is that the 2C situation hadn't been solved sooner).
 

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Not so sure about that. There’s a duality to Byram that we’ve seen at high levels. Lately, it seems like he’s been playing with an offensive focus like a swashbuckling pirate swinging into the offensive zone on a chandelier. He’s trying to carve out his career and get paid. But we’ve also seen him play a high level of defense on the biggest stage because that’s what the team needed. Byram has been a mystery box. But if he puts all those things together, you have a very lethal player. The 5th pick of the draft each year is hardly a guarantee to show this kind of talent.
His biggest issue is that he's not productive enough to outweigh his defensive shortcomings. He absolutely has the talent to be a good defensive player in this league, but until he actually commits to playing that way he will always be a frustrating player.
 

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and that's exactly why I thought the Toews extension affected Byram's play before the trade. He was seeing himself on the first pair next to Makar and CMac threw a wrench into that plan.

From that moment he realized he had no future in Colorado.
If Byram had done anything to show he could surpass Toews then perhaps Toews doesn't get that contract.

And maybe Byram is already playing top pair or at least some significant PP minutes to improve his own numbers and his own paycheque.
 
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Panthers looking like they studied film of the Avs recent powerkill to reach ultimate suckage. 1 shot on goal in a 4 minute powerkill lol.
 

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I mean I don't really see Bo forcing anyones hand to be the 1 in Florida, Carolina, Boston, LA. Maybe LA. But Byram would clearly be stuck behind Slavin, Forsling, and McAvoy. Even in Calgary Weeger is currently better than him and would be an obstacle. He could have a path to being a 1 in TOR but there's a good chance he'd just end up a worse version of Rielly. Until Bo actually either becomes a legit point producer or consistently good defender in the NHL no one will trust him to be a top pairing guy consistently.
Bo would absolutely be the go-to go for most of those teams. That doesn't mean he's the best defenseman on the team. He wants the role of a Montour/Hughes/etc. where he's #1-3 in ice time, majority of offensive zone deployment and top PP unit. He wants to be on the ice in important situations.

Byram is tied for 5th for ES points. If he got prime PP units he'd be cracking 50+ points.
 

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