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henchman21

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There is a local vote in November for arena funding in the suburb near Atlanta. If that passes, then I'd expect the process to heat up. If it fails, then will depend if the developers are willing to foot the extra part of the bill. The NHL simply wants to stay clear of any public funding raise in the area.
 

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Did I see the terms "Evan Bouchard" and "11 million" together on the sidebar or am I having a stroke?
 
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We were almost named the Rocky Mountain Xtreme. I'm willing to give them time to get it right.

As funny as it may be for a minute or so, the novelty of Utah Mcboatyboatface will wear off and they will select something homefully better than the Wild.
I’m so glad that’s not the name of the team. It sounds more like a porn movie name
 

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Did I see the terms "Evan Bouchard" and "11 million" together on the sidebar or am I having a stroke?
Good luck trying to convince him and his agent otherwise, when he's going to put up PPG playing with McDavid and they have a much worse defenceman in Nurse making over 9M.
 
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henchman21

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People are going to be awfully surprised at where contracts are going... and IIRC this contract will only buy 2 RFA years. 11m doesn't seem like all that much of a stretch. A little high, but an ask designed to get him over 10m.
 

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People are going to be awfully surprised at where contracts are going... and IIRC this contract will only buy 2 RFA years. 11m doesn't seem like all that much of a stretch. A little high, but an ask designed to get him over 10m.
The Edmonton tax is probably ~1M AAV.
 

henchman21

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That's exactly the money he could have asked for if they won the cup last year and he won the Smythe.
I'm not saying he gets it, but the angling is trying to get 12m or more. He wants paid every penny. Truthfully too... if he hits UFA, there will be somebody that probably goes above that.
 

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Why are you worried about that?
The way it's worded the Rags are willing to go above 10.5M but "there are limits" as if Shesterkin wants way more than 10.5M. Dude has won nothing outside of a single Vezina and plays in a popular market, that'd reset the goalie value big time.
 

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I'm not saying he gets it, but the angling is trying to get 12m or more. He wants paid every penny. Truthfully too... if he hits UFA, there will be somebody that probably goes above that.
If they offer him 11M X 8 no team on the market would match that.
 

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The way it's worded the Rags are willing to go above 10.5M but "there are limits" as if Shesterkin wants way more than 10.5M. Dude has won nothing outside of a single Vezina and plays in a popular market, that'd reset the goalie value big time.
Here's the thing--contracts should be paying for future performance, not past accomplishments. "Reward" contracts are usually disastrous (see: Seabrook, Brent). He is arguably the best goalie in the league, I certainly would put him an entire level above his contemporaries (he doesn't get anywhere near the help Swayman does). DGAF if he hasn't won anything, he's already proven his value to the team.

He knows he's got them by the balls. And they know it too. I don't blame him one bit for negotiating tough, I certainly would if I were in his place. Frankly I think his predecessor left money on the table and the Rangers did f*** all with it.

Trouba said the quiet part out loud, that this is the last ride before major changes start happening. Shestyorkin is basically telling them "Hey, you want me to stick around? You'd better pay me."
 

henchman21

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If they offer him 11M X 8 no team on the market would match that.
I'd be shocked if he didn't get a 12m offer as a UFA, and matching the total over 7 years would probably happen. Bobrovsky got 10m with the cap at 81.5m. That's equivalent to about 11.4m on next year's cap... and while Bob had hardware, he wasn't viewed as highly as Shesty is today.

Price's 10.5m would be equivalent to 12.3m on next year's cap. We're seeing the new round of higher percentages of cap set by position. While we're still in flux, we're going to see a number of these types of situations where some outrageous new cap hits are signed.
 

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Here's the thing--contracts should be paying for future performance, not past accomplishments.
Oh I fully agree with that. He'll turn 30 two months into that new contract (which will undoubtedly be 8 years) so that doesn't work.

The correct time to pay him top money/max term for future accomplishments was after his ELC. That'd cover all the prime years instead of the elderly years.

Oh yes they would.
They'd have to offer 12.6M X 7 to match that. Not happening.
 

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Oh I fully agree with that. He'll turn 30 two months into that new contract (which will undoubtedly be 8 years) so that doesn't work.

The correct time to pay him top money/max term for future accomplishments was after his ELC.
Goalies tend to age better than skaters. Probably not worth the money when he's 38, but could still be plenty worth it at the age of 36.
 

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Oh I fully agree with that. He'll turn 30 two months into that new contract (which will undoubtedly be 8 years) so that doesn't work.

The correct time to pay him top money/max term for future accomplishments was after his ELC. That'd cover all the prime years instead of the elderly years.
Nobody's pretending he's going to remain elite for the entirety of that deal. The expectation is that he maintains his prime for at least two more years, and then remains at least a viable franchise goalie for 2-4 years after that. Anything else is irrelevant because the Rangers will be long since done by then, probably at that point trying and failing to stay afloat with a really old and expensive roster.

They'd have to offer 12.6M X 7 to match that. Not happening.
Among 31 other teams, someone would make that happen most assuredly. They'd figure out the cap afterwards.
 

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Montreal specifically would be tempted to make that move. Their young prospects and inject a top 3 goalie onto that team... could be a prime landing spot.
 

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I think he really liked it here and would have loved to stay...getting traded to Philly crushed him and all of a sudden he was too injured to play.

Safe to say that he isn't going to play in the NHL again. I no longer believe that his issue was laziness, he just had an extra small tank and he easily ran out of gas.

Bad conditioning partially due to heart condition would be my guess.
 
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