2024-2025 Around The League Part 2

[forsbergavs32]

14 hours since the FN break started and people are already bickering…I’m already dreading the offseason

 

[LOFIN]

Do me a favor and don’t talk about my children. Got it?

I didn't mean to touch a nerve, and wasn't aware if you even had kids. But I will stand by what I said. Just telling people to "stand up" for themselves isn't always the cure for hazing/bullying.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

14 hours since the FN break started and people are already bickering…I’m already dreading the offseason

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[wayninja]

I don't know where you work, but in a normal work place you probably go up to your boss/HR, instead of handling it yourself.

I will f***ing pop Jeremy in accounting in the f***ing mouth if he says one more goddamn thing about mileage accruals!

 

[a mangy Meowth]

I will f***ing pop Jeremy in accounting in the f***ing mouth if he says one more goddamn thing about mileage accruals!

Fill out your expense report properly or it's going to mean blood

 

[forsbergavs32]

 

[dahrougem2]

Speaking of crybabies, how about the Blackhawks and Bedard? Blackhawks with a quicker and more emphatic response to Biz than to assault.

I thought Biz's analysis was pretty spot on. Wasn't doing his annoying podcast frat boy bit, he provided some actual analysis backed up by video. They probably know it's true too, which is why they immediately went the attack the messenger and his career route rather than what he actually said. Maybe I'm getting to the get off my lawn point but I didn't think Bedard came off all that great either when asked about it.

Who knows if true but maybe... just maybe... lends SOME credibility to Roenick's claim of everyone on the Hawks shaking hands with Hawks legends except Bedard.

I don't know. Kid seems a bit strange and he is clearly not playing to expectations yet.

 

[wayninja]

Masculinity is a thing no matter how many people find it distasteful. It can be ugly and dumb, but pretending like it doesn't (or even shouldn't) exist is even more dumb.

 

[flyfysher]

14 hours since the FN break started and people are already bickering…I’m already dreading the offseason

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No rest for the wicked and weary.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

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joke's on you I'm into it

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

I will personally fly from Finland to Denver to drive Mittelstadt+Wood to the airport for Kadri

Need a place to stay while you're here?

 

[GeoRox89]

Fill out your expense report properly or it's going to mean blood

I’m starting a revolution over accounting departments refusing to just take 5 seconds to input the obvious missing tax code themselves and instead wasting more people’s time by rejecting the whole damn report for simple correction

 

[a mangy Meowth]

I’m starting a revolution over accounting departments refusing to just take 5 seconds to input the obvious missing tax code themselves and instead wasting more people’s time by rejecting the whole damn report for simple correction

Excuse me, I can't take this. You put your lunch purchase under "travel/lodging" and not "meals". This isn't even worth the paper it's printed on

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

Masculinity is a thing no matter how many people find it distasteful. It can be ugly and dumb, but pretending like it doesn't (or even shouldn't) exist is even more dumb.

In my opinion "Masculinity" doesn't mean you have to punch someone in the face because they said words to you, though. Masculinity is more than just testosterone fueled rage and violence. It's not p***y to not get into a physical altercation. That's my problem with how Petterson is portrayed here. Sometimes that's the smart thing to do. If Petterson can control himself around someone who is being the aggressor then more power to him. Responding to hateful words with violence doesn't make you a man. That's a toxic response. And these are pros who rely upon their hands, heads etc to earn a paycheck. Throwing around punches and risking that over some douche being a douche is counterintuitive.

It's much like everything there's a scale to it. From passive through to aggressive. Being at one end of the spectrum vs the other doesn't change whether you're a man or not, despite what society loves to tell you.

It sounds like Miller was the prick here, as I think we all knew anyway, and Petterson decided not to escalate the situation.

 

[wayninja]

In my opinion "Masculinity" doesn't mean you have to punch someone in the face because they said words to you, though. Masculinity is more than just testosterone fueled rage and violence. It's not p***y to not get into a physical altercation. That's my problem with how Petterson is portrayed here. Sometimes that's the smart thing to do. If Petterson can control himself around someone who is being the aggressor then more power to him. Responding to hateful words with violence doesn't make you a man. That's a toxic response. And these are pros who rely upon their hands, heads etc to earn a paycheck. Throwing around punches and risking that over some douche being a douche is counterintuitive.

It's much like everything there's a scale to it. From passive through to aggressive. Being at one end of the spectrum vs the other doesn't change whether you're a man or not, despite what society loves to tell you.

It sounds like Miller was the prick here, as I think we all knew anyway, and Petterson decided not to escalate the situation.

No one said you have to punch someone in the face necessarily. But avoiding it all costs will be noticed and judged by those around you who depend on your physical prowess for victory.

This dynamic is simply true. Again, I'm not saying that there is only 1 path, or that you can't be intelligent with expressions of masculinity. I'm simply suggesting that looking weak is looking weak. You have to do SOMETHING, and that thing has to be deemed a good and/or powerful response in the face of adversity.

I also didn't claim that responding with violence or "hate" makes you a man. My claim is that dealing with violence and hate is part of being a man. Sometimes throwing a punch IS the right thing to do. Denying that denies an aspect of masculinity for better or for worse.

I do find it strange that this is controversial in a hockey forum of all places.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

No one said you have to punch someone in the face necessarily. But avoiding it all costs will be noticed and judged by those around you who depend on your physical prowess for victory.

This dynamic is simply true. Again, I'm not saying that there is only 1 path, or that you can't be intelligent with expressions of masculinity. I'm simply suggesting that looking weak is looking weak. You have to do SOMETHING, and that thing has to be deemed a good and/or powerful response in the face of adversity.

I also didn't claim that responding with violence or "hate" makes you man. My claim is that dealing with violence an hate is part of being a man. Sometimes throwing a punch IS the right thing to do. Denying that denies an aspect of masculinity for better or for worse.

I do find it strange that this is controversial in a hockey forum of all places.

Maybe a good kiss on the lips would clear things up

 

[a mangy Meowth]

And maybe a slap on the ass @RoyIsALegend

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

No one said you have to punch someone in the face necessarily. But avoiding it all costs will be noticed and judged by those around you who depend on your physical prowess for victory.

This dynamic is simply true. Again, I'm not saying that there is only 1 path, or that you can't be intelligent with expressions of masculinity. I'm simply suggesting that looking weak is looking weak. You have to do SOMETHING, and that thing has to be deemed a good and/or powerful response in the face of adversity.

I also didn't claim that responding with violence or "hate" makes you man. My claim is that dealing with violence an hate is part of being a man. Sometimes throwing a punch IS the right thing to do. Denying that denies an aspect of masculinity for better or for worse.

I do find it strange that this is controversial in a hockey forum of all places.

These are fair points, my main point of contention is Petterson is not a "p***y" for not turning violent. That characterisation of men is nonsense and prehistoric. Sometimes the right path may be something physical. Sometimes it may be not. These guys were in a public space. In a champagne bar where they had probably been drinking and it was likely full of glassware and the members of the general public. Not getting violent here would be the right call in my opinion. But to each their own.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

And maybe a slap on the ass @RoyIsALegend

I guarantee if Petey had punched JTM in the face, it would’ve ended with a couple of good old ass slaps and they’d move on.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

In a champagne bar where they had probably been drinking and it was likely full of glassware and the members of the general public.

Yeah what if they broke the good china?!

 

[wayninja]

These are fair points, my main point of contention is Petterson is not a "p***y" for not turning violent. That characterisation of men is nonsense and prehistoric. Sometimes the right path may be something physical. Sometimes it may be not. These guys were in a public space. In a champagne bar where they had probably been drinking and it was likely full of glassware and the members of the general public. Not getting violent here would be the right call in my opinion. But to each their own.

Yeah, I'm not trying to suggest Petterson is or is not a p***y because I wasn't there. But I don't think the story makes him look particularly good, even if JTM was a complete douchbag and the impetus for all of the drama.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

These are fair points, my main point of contention is Petterson is not a "p***y" for not turning violent. That characterisation of men is nonsense and prehistoric. Sometimes the right path may be something physical. Sometimes it may be not. These guys were in a public space. In a champagne bar where they had probably been drinking and it was likely full of glassware and the members of the general public. Not getting violent here would be the right call in my opinion. But to each their own.

Your perspective is probably right, but not when it comes to professional athletes and certainly not when it comes to hockey players.

I don’t want to be that guy, but your stance is that of somebody who has never been in a dressing room of a competitive sport. I’ve been around these guys my whole life and this is how it works. Right or wrong.

 

[wayninja]

I guarantee if Petey had punched JTM in the face, it would’ve ended with a couple of good old ass slaps and they’d move on.

Some of my best friends growing up were all guys I had gotten into fights with.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Rants out so Canes aren't having to try to get him involved at their own expense - 6 goals easy work

 

[dahrougem2]

Some of my best friends growing up were all guys I had gotten into fights with.

Everyone is wired different. I've never been in a fight my entire life and I'm 31, not even when playing hockey for 15 years growing up. I was and still am extremely patient and mild-mannered. I've had teammates like Miller and never gave them even an ounce of second thought or attention.

Miller, to me, seems like a "act how I want you to act or else" kind of guy.

Maybe if he had the actions to back up his desires, Petey would listen. However, this is one of the lazier players so naturally Petey and others see right through it.