Prospect Info: 2024 156 Oa RW Justin Poirier

[Mallow]

Some rumors swirling that Poirier might end up at the University of Maine this season.

Would be a great landing spot as the Black Bears graduated/portal'd a lot of talent from last year's team. Some prime minutes available for him if he makes it here to Orono. I have no doubt he would thrive in the system Ben Barr likes to play.

 

[DaveG]

was curious to see how long it would take for guys with a good bit of eligibility left to jump from the CHL to NCAA level. Didn't figure that one of our guys would be among the first high profile ones to do so. Will definitely be happy to catch his games more regularly if he does make the move to Maine.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Divver confirms Poirier to Maine

 

[baconandbread]

Do we have him signed to his EL yet? If not, curious as to if it goes by CHL draft rules or NCAA. Could be a loophole for some players to go to go to their preferred team (not necessarily him btw)

 

[DaveG]

Do we have him signed to his EL yet? If not, curious as to if it goes by CHL draft rules or NCAA. Could be a loophole for some players to go to go to their preferred team (not necessarily him btw)

ya know this is a good question. The reverse Mike Van Ryn. No idea what the rules would be on this other than if his eligibility is handled like normal we'd have to sign him after his season ends at Maine this year.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Do we have him signed to his EL yet? If not, curious as to if it goes by CHL draft rules or NCAA. Could be a loophole for some players to go to go to their preferred team (not necessarily him btw)

The assumption is that Poirier's rights will extend to 4 years removed from his draft year. Thus you'd keep his rights until August 15 2028 at minimum. But I believe this is still being finalized in the new/revised CBA.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

I think the NCAA is a great place for Poirier. He'll play against bigger and older players. I expect his production will go down significantly but it will be worth it for his career. Great next step as he's not yet ready to be an AHL player.

 

[WreckingCrew]

I think the NCAA is a great place for Poirier. He'll play against bigger and older players. I expect his production will go down significantly but it will be worth it for his career. Great next step as he's not yet ready to be an AHL player.

Yea I was just thinking, the Q is too easy for him at this point (and it's probably the worst of the 3 CHL junior leagues), nothing to be gained by staying there. Playing against higher quality opponents who are bigger, older, and play a different style of hockey can only help is growth/development. Better he hit a wall now and grow and develop through it than when he's 20-21 in the AHL getting destroyed.

 

[ONO94]

True - he may become just a PPG player instead of a 1.5p/g player....

Joking aside, I agree this a good move and into a good system for a player with his skills based on Nadeau year in the same program. He has nothing left to prove in the Q and will only be a target for those trying to make a name for themselves by trying to take him out.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Has anyone seen the answer to whether players that make the jump to the NCAA are held to their original team control draft result or once they move to the ncaa it’s now that pathway for team control?

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Has anyone seen the answer to whether players that make the jump to the NCAA are held to their original team control draft result or once they move to the ncaa it’s now that pathway for team control?

There is no definite answer yet, the assumption is that Poirier's rights will extend to 4 years removed from his draft year. Thus you'd keep his rights until August 15 2028 at minimum. But I believe this is still being finalized in the new/revised CBA.

 

[chaz4hockey]

There is no definite answer yet, the assumption is that Poirier's rights will extend to 4 years removed from his draft year. Thus you'd keep his rights until August 15 2028 at minimum. But I believe this is still being finalized in the new/revised CBA.

Thanks

 

[QuebeCaniac]

Article yesterday in le Journal de Québec about Poirier departure to NCAA... Grégoire (the coach/GM of Baie-Comeau) states that Poirier leaves "because the Hurricanes don't respect the QJMHL".

So there is this mass exodus from CHL to NCAA (21 OHL players have already confirmed they are leaving, many more to come), so many players are leaving CHL, but I guess Grégoire couldn't miss this opportunity to bash the Hurricanes organisation...

https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...nt-pas-a-la-lhjmq-selon-son-ancien-entraineur

 

[chaz4hockey]

Article yesterday in le Journal de Québec about Poirier departure to NCAA... Grégoire (the coach/GM of Baie-Comeau) states that Poirier leaves "because the Hurricanes don't respect the QJMHL".

So there is this mass exodus from CHL to NCAA (21 OHL players have already confirmed they are leaving, many more to come), so many players are leaving CHL, but I guess Grégoire couldn't miss this opportunity to bash the Hurricanes organisation...

https://www.journaldequebec.com/202...nt-pas-a-la-lhjmq-selon-son-ancien-entraineur

Ah, it wouldn’t be a “good” article out of Quebec if the Canes didn’t get blamed for something.

 

[ONO94]

Rumor has it that the source breaking the Poirier news that the Canes hate the Q is a cable guy active on the Plains of Abraham....but that is just a rumor

 

[Joe McGrath]

Let’s be clear - the Canes don’t respect the Q, and they have absolutely no reason to. It’s the 3rd best junior league in Canada where they play no defense. They rarely draft players out of the Q at all and I think the only one they’ve even given a chance to under this regime is Robidas and I’m sure that has more to do with who is dad is.

 

[NotOpie]

Let’s be clear - the Canes don’t respect the Q, and they have absolutely no reason to. It’s the 3rd best junior league in Canada where they play no defense. They rarely draft players out of the Q at all and I think the only one they’ve even given a chance to under this regime is Robidas and I’m sure that has more to do with who is dad is.

Didn't some scrub named Sydney Crosby play in the Q

 

[chaz4hockey]

Didn't some scrub named Sydney Crosby play in the Q

The historical list of superstars that came through the League is pretty extensive.

But, under the category of what have you done for me lately, here is an article from Oct. '24 noting that there were 77 players currently on NHL clubs:

77 former QMJHL players in the NHL - LHJMQ

QMJHL alumni in the NHL:

Anaheim Ducks (2)
Ross Johnston and Tristan Luneau

Boston Bruins (2)
Charlie Coyle and Brad Marchand

Buffalo Sabres (1)
Nicolas Aubé-Kubel (injured)

Calgary Flames (4)
Jonathan Huberdeau, Anthony Mantha, Daniil Miromanov and MacKenzie Weegar

Carolina Hurricanes (1)
William Carrier

Chicago Blackhawks (1)
Philipp Kurashev

Colorado Avalanche (3)
Jonathan Drouin, Samuel Girard and Nathan MacKinnon

Columbus Blue Jackets (2)
Mathieu Olivier and Jordan Dumais (injured)

Dallas Stars (1)
Mavrik Bourque (injured)

Detroit Red Wings (1)
Joseph Veleno

Edmonton Oilers
none

Florida Panthers (2)
A.J. Greer and Dmitry Kulikov

Los Angeles Kings (2)
Phillip Danault and Jordan Spence

Minnesota Wild (4)
Marc-André Fleury, Frédérick Gaudreau, Jakub Lauko and Yakov Trenin

Montreal Canadiens (5)
Alex Barré-Boulet, Justin Barron, Samuel Montembeault, David Savard and Rafaël Harvey-Pinard (injured)

Nashville Predators (3)
Alexandre Carrier, Jérémy Lauzon and Jonathan Marchessault

New Jersey Devils (5)
Jake Allen, Nico Hischier, Timo Meier, Dawson Mercer and Ondrej Palat

New York Islanders (4)
Noah Dobson, Anthony Duclair, Julien Gauthier and Jean-Gabriel Pageau

New York Rangers (1)
Alexis Lafrenière

Ottawa Senators (6)
Drake Batherson, Thomas Chabot, Claude Giroux, Zack MacEwen, David Perron and Matthew Highmore (injured)

Philadelphia Flyers (2)
Sean Couturier and Nicolas Deslauriers

Pittsburgh Penguins (5)
Anthony Beauvillier, Sidney Crosby, Ryan Graves, Kristopher Letang and Vasily Ponomarev (injured)

San Jose Sharks (1)
Marc-Édouard Vlasic

Seattle Kraken (1)
Yanni Gourde

St. Louis Blues (3)
Zachary Bolduc, Mathieu Joseph and Pierre-Olivier Joseph

Tampa Bay Lightning (2)
Nikita Kucherov and Gabriel Fortier (injured)

Toronto Maple Leafs (2)
Simon Benoit and Philippe Myers

Utah Hockey Club (2)
Michael Carcone and Liam O’Brien

Vancouver Canucks (2)
Conor Garland and Daniel Sprong

Vegas Golden Knights (4)
Ivan Barbashev, Raphaël Lavoie, Nicolas Roy and Lukas Cormier (injured)

Washington Capitals (2)
Pierre-Luc Dubois and Spencer Smallman (injured)

Winnipeg Jets (1)
Nikolaj Ehlers

 

[cptjeff]

I think the NCAA is a great place for Poirier. He'll play against bigger and older players. I expect his production will go down significantly but it will be worth it for his career. Great next step as he's not yet ready to be an AHL player.

NCAA teams often put a really big premium on conditioning, too. Gym time to get significantly leaner and improve his footspeed could be a huge benefit for him, looking at those highlights early in the thread.

 

[LakeLivin]

The historical list of superstars that came through the League is pretty extensive.

But, under the category of what have you done for me lately, here is an article from Oct. '24 noting that there were 77 players currently on NHL clubs:

77 former QMJHL players in the NHL - LHJMQ

QMJHL alumni in the NHL:

Anaheim Ducks (2)
Ross Johnston and Tristan Luneau

Boston Bruins (2)
Charlie Coyle and Brad Marchand

Buffalo Sabres (1)
Nicolas Aubé-Kubel (injured)

Calgary Flames (4)
Jonathan Huberdeau, Anthony Mantha, Daniil Miromanov and MacKenzie Weegar

Carolina Hurricanes (1)
William Carrier

Chicago Blackhawks (1)
Philipp Kurashev

Colorado Avalanche (3)
Jonathan Drouin, Samuel Girard and Nathan MacKinnon

Columbus Blue Jackets (2)
Mathieu Olivier and Jordan Dumais (injured)

Dallas Stars (1)
Mavrik Bourque (injured)

Detroit Red Wings (1)
Joseph Veleno

Edmonton Oilers
none

Florida Panthers (2)
A.J. Greer and Dmitry Kulikov

Los Angeles Kings (2)
Phillip Danault and Jordan Spence

Minnesota Wild (4)
Marc-André Fleury, Frédérick Gaudreau, Jakub Lauko and Yakov Trenin

Montreal Canadiens (5)
Alex Barré-Boulet, Justin Barron, Samuel Montembeault, David Savard and Rafaël Harvey-Pinard (injured)

Nashville Predators (3)
Alexandre Carrier, Jérémy Lauzon and Jonathan Marchessault

New Jersey Devils (5)
Jake Allen, Nico Hischier, Timo Meier, Dawson Mercer and Ondrej Palat

New York Islanders (4)
Noah Dobson, Anthony Duclair, Julien Gauthier and Jean-Gabriel Pageau

New York Rangers (1)
Alexis Lafrenière

Ottawa Senators (6)
Drake Batherson, Thomas Chabot, Claude Giroux, Zack MacEwen, David Perron and Matthew Highmore (injured)

Philadelphia Flyers (2)
Sean Couturier and Nicolas Deslauriers

Pittsburgh Penguins (5)
Anthony Beauvillier, Sidney Crosby, Ryan Graves, Kristopher Letang and Vasily Ponomarev (injured)

San Jose Sharks (1)
Marc-Édouard Vlasic

Seattle Kraken (1)
Yanni Gourde

St. Louis Blues (3)
Zachary Bolduc, Mathieu Joseph and Pierre-Olivier Joseph

Tampa Bay Lightning (2)
Nikita Kucherov and Gabriel Fortier (injured)

Toronto Maple Leafs (2)
Simon Benoit and Philippe Myers

Utah Hockey Club (2)
Michael Carcone and Liam O’Brien

Vancouver Canucks (2)
Conor Garland and Daniel Sprong

Vegas Golden Knights (4)
Ivan Barbashev, Raphaël Lavoie, Nicolas Roy and Lukas Cormier (injured)

Washington Capitals (2)
Pierre-Luc Dubois and Spencer Smallman (injured)

Winnipeg Jets (1)
Nikolaj Ehlers

Okay, that's a lot of names. But could you make actually make a competitive NHL team out of those scrubs?

 

[chaz4hockey]

Okay, that's a lot of names. But could you make actually make a competitive NHL team out of those scrubs?

I know you say that in jest but I'm thinking it's time for your annual eye exam!!!!