Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v8 | Tue, Aug 8 | @ CLE | 7:00pm ET/4:00pm PT | Kikuchi vs Bibee

[Eyedea]

Paul DeJong/Tommy Edman, welcome to the Blue Jays

 

[kb]

I’m curious, how do you show passion while playing baseball and how can fans tell?

Orioles have 'it'...the right mix, and they know the can beat anybody. It's called swagger. You can see 'it'.

The Jays just don't. It's a rotten mix on the field and a very subdued clubhouse compared to the previous few seasons.. They never felt out of a game - they were explosive, but this year when they give up a run or 2 early, it seems like they can't respond.

Maybe Baltimore just has better players and the Jays can try harder all they want and it won’t matter.

Or maybe they have all the talent in the world, but not the will? Outside of Bo, KK, Whit.....no one is living up to career norms, and I see no urgency in any of them to change that.

 

[Nineteen67]

Did Chapman and KK really text the GM between innings saying it’s ok to trade them tonight.

 

[Eyedea]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what it looks like when you pop your knee. I know because that is exactly what I looked like when it happened to me.

Don't worry, it's very unlikely to be a long term thing. I doubt it was a dislocation pop, more of strain. More of a 1 to 2 week thing, but it feels absolutely funky and painful as heck and it happens. You're terrified to so much as bend your knee because it feels like you can't bend it without the knob of the knee feeling like it wants to pierce your skin.

Hoping for the best but it could still be a tear. Maybe not as bad as a fully blown knee but a meniscus tear would take him out for a month minimum.

 

[Cleetus]

wonder what Troy Tulowitzki is up to? lol

 

[Cloned]

Definitely and that’s their problem with the bats, RISP

It’s not the only problem. They don’t hit with power consistently enough and definitely not enough with RISP (and runners on base period).

 

[Nineteen67]

Orioles have 'it'...the right mix, and they know the can beat anybody. It's called swagger. You can see 'it'.

The Jays just don't. It's a rotten mix on the field.


Or maybe they have all the talent in the world, but not the will? Outside of Bo, KK, Whit.....no one is living up to career norms, and I see no urgency to change that.

Springer is getting older and hasn’t had a month off this season to rest and Flop is doing what he does.

 

[kb]

Springer is getting older and hasn’t had a month off this season to rest and Flop is doing what he does.

Why do you answer me?

I have no use for your shit takes while trolling the Leafs board as a fan of another team.

 

[Eyedea]

Orioles have 'it'...the right mix, and they know the can beat anybody. It's called swagger. You can see 'it'.

The Jays just don't. It's a rotten mix on the field.


Or maybe they have all the talent in the world, but not the will? Outside of Bo, KK, Whit.....no one is living up to career norms, and I see no urgency to change that.

What the O’s (and Red Sox) have done to the Jays so far this season isn’t really indicative of their overall performance though. They have a similar run differential as the Jays. Offensively they might put up more runs but their starting pitching is still a red flag. And in Kyle Gibson’s case, he isn’t just beating us because he’s got this newfound Orioles aura. He was soft tossing 0s ever since he came into the league with the Twins.

 

[Cleetus]

Varshow's bat seems to be heating up.

 

[canucksfan]

It’s not the only problem. They don’t hit with power consistently enough and definitely not enough with RISP (and runners on base period).

Looked up ISO team stats and the Jays are lower than I thought so power is definitely an issue.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Even if Bo is out a while, that doesn't spell the end of the season. This is not a one man sport, and Bo ain't Judge or Trout

 

[kb]

What the O’s (and Red Sox) have done to the Jays so far this season isn’t really indicative of their overall performance though. They have a similar run differential as the Jays. Offensively they might put up more runs but their starting pitching is still a red flag. And in Kyle Gibson’s case, he isn’t just beating us because he’s got this newfound Orioles aura. He was soft tossing 0s ever since he came into the league with the Twins.

The O's are in first. What they are doing is working.

What the Jays are doing is not. Bottom line.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Looked up ISO team stats and the Jays are lower than I thought so power is definitely an issue.

Just down for power. Jays have guys with a good track record of hitting dingers, just for some reason not hitting them this year.

Right knee discomfort, so far doesn't sound serious but it is early. They won't be giving us any details till after the deadline

 

[MS]

I’m officially done with Cavan Biggio. Give Clement or Schneider his playing time.

He’s been worth a cumulative 0.5 WAR over the past 3 years. Replacement level.

 

[Suntouchable13]

OPS is alright, thye are getting on base, the average is good, but for some reason they can't hit with RISP. I don't know, seems kinda random and not ability related. Next year, same lineup could be hitting amazing with RISP. It's random

 

[Eyedea]

The O's are in first. What they are doing is working.

What the Jays are doing is not. Bottom line.

Yes it’s easy to say that knowing the Jays have shot themselves in the foot playing the O’s and Red Sox this year.

The O’s are the most clutch team in the league, and the Jays have been one of the least clutch teams. Sooner or later the inverse will happen

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Move Espinal to short and call up Schneider or Clement.

 

[kb]

OPS is alright, thye are getting on base, the average is good, but for some reason they can't hit with RISP. I don't know, seems kinda random and not ability related. Next year, same lineup could be hitting amazing with RISP. It's random

Yeah, I have never before expressed frustration about this team on here, but I can pretty much predict whether or not they will show up by team played, or by pitcher faced. It's definitely random, but after 4 months of random, one begins to wonder if it's not random anymore.

 

[canucksfan]

I’m officially done with Cavan Biggio. Give Clement or Schneider his playing time.

He’s been worth a cumulative 0.5 WAR over the past 3 years. Replacement level.

I thought the bench was a strength coming in but it's been pretty bad.

 

[phillipmike]

Davidi said the Jays were after Tim Anderson before the game. I bet they really go after him tomorrow

 

[canucksfan]

Davidi said the Jays were after Tim Anderson before the game. I bet they really go after him tomorrow

He would be a solid get especially for next year where he could move over to second base. Good buy low candidate

 

[phillipmike]

He would be a solid get especially for next year where he could move over to second base. Good buy low candidate

Yup. He’s a higher ceiling Whit imo. Wonder if you can grab Eloy as a RH bat with Tim Anderson.

 

[MS]

And again, Ernie Clement almost certainly has a better AB than that turd that Luplow just delivered.

 

[canucksfan]

And again, Ernie Clement almost certainly has a better AB than that turd that Luplow just delivered.

Yup. Even Davis Schneider likely is a better option.