Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v13 | **WILDCARD SERIES GAME 2** Wed, Oct 4 | @ Min | 4:30pm ET/1:30pm PT | Berrios vs Gray

[HockeyMad68]

Time to clean house in management.

 

[jiggy35]

Fire J Schneider, put in D Schneider

 

[bossram]

Ok get out of the damage with only 2 zip.

And a wasted Berrios, wasted Kikuchi (he's coming out now) and a completely burned pen even if they get to G3.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I still can't believe it. What are you thinking, seriously. Even if you're stupid as shit, what makes you say, yes, let's pull an unhittable pitcher right NOW.

 

[GreytWun]

LOL

Sounds like some of the posters around here. No accountability

 

[Cloned]

Atkins and Schneider can both go pound sand.

 

[horner]

LOL

Then management should be fired if they lose this seties

 

[MS]

LOL

I tend to suspect the same thing.

 

[TMLeafer]

Berrios is a good man.

 

[Northernguy10]

Analytics in this case fails to take into account how well Berrios was throwing.

Yep...I loved math in high school...Took 3 maths courses in grade 13 (yes I'm old)...I understand analytics and think they have a place in sports...But... if you're going to go close to 100% with analytics you might as well have a computer managing/coaching pro sports... The human element is and always will be, a huge factor in the game(s)

 

[Zirakzigil]

Kikuchi better go at least another inning. Going to the bullpen that early...

 

[robertocarlos]

Look at Jose. Rightfully disappointed.

Tears in his eyes like he is Strawberry and Mr. Burns is the manager.

 

[Divine]

I don't understand how you take out a pitcher who is dealing with a low pitch count to replace him with a cold pitcher and hope, at best, he matches the performance of the pitcher you removed?

 

[Da Cool Rula]

Come on hitters win this for Berrios & yourselves
screw this management

 

[Bjindaho]

LOL

He's not wrong.

The analytics department lays out the game plan. They are just worse with stats than anyone on this board.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I have done my fair share of defending management/manager but I really can not defend pulling Berrios in any way right there.

 

[MSZ]

Schneider will take the blame. But this is all Shapiro and Atkins. But they are too cowardly to ever step up and take the blame. Did the same thing last year if I remember correctly.

They should all be fired right after the game regardless, and not allowed to fly back to Toronto and pack their stuff.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

LOL

Either way it’s a f***ing moronic decision. The numbers can’t be the end all be all for every move.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Time to clean house. Shapiro can either do it himself or he can join them.

 

[MS]

And the thing is that it isn't like this is July Kikuchi when he was throwing great.

He was shit in September - velo down, walks up, HRs up.

 

[jcs0218]

I don't care what the analytics say.

A right-handed pitcher who is pitching like an ace is better suited to face left-handed batters, than a left-handed pitcher who isn't pitching well.

 

[WhyYouHaveToBeMad]

It's almost certainly not just Schneider overruling everyone in the organization the way it's getting portrayed here.

It's some sort of decision made between Schneider/Mattingly/Walker/management/analytics department. And it's dumb as f*** and probably cost the team the season.

than fire them all.

 

[tmlfan98]

Time to clean house from at least Atkins down, probably Shapiro too but I worry ownership is too big of a fan of how he handled the renovations.

 

[jetsforever]

Berrios having this performance against his longtime former team and gets immediately pulled...

 

[Kurtz]

Lol Buck finally had enough. Good for him.