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Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v10 | Wed, Sept 6 | @ Oak | 330pm ET/12:30pm PT | Ryu vs Sears

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Discoverer said:
The original comment was that this series will determine whether Toronto or Texas makes the playoffs. I'm saying there's a very real possibility that one team could take 3 of 4 (or even sweep) and they could both make it (especially if Toronto wins the series since Texas will have plenty of opportunities to catch Seattle).
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Discoverer said:
The original comment was that this series will determine whether Toronto or Texas makes the playoffs. I'm saying there's a very real possibility that one team could take 3 of 4 (or even sweep) and they could both make it (especially if Toronto wins the series since Texas will have plenty of opportunities to catch Seattle).
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I said “essentially” determine. And I still stand by that. Especially for Toronto.
 
Kurtz said:
Yup. The other thing about that series is Texas is 2-0 against us, so if the series is split they keep the tiebreaker and so in a 2-2 outcome they ostensibly pick up a game on us.

They've been in such a freefall that it may not even matter, but if they recover at all, a 2-2 split could be painful.
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A big part of the implosion is their pitching has completely fallen off a cliff. They’re getting terrible starting pitching lately and when they do have the lead they have a terrible bullpen. Love their line-up they can score with anyone but that bullpen is really bad.

Eyedea said:
Okay fine put Merrifield in since it’s a lefty, but he’s been the worst hitter over the last two weeks and has no business being near the top of the lineup.
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Yeah don’t mind him in the line-up but at least put him 7-9. He has no business being in the lineup where driving in possible runs could win us the game. But same goes for Vladdy but John doesn’t have the balls to move him from his spot
 
stats1 said:
A big part of the implosion is their pitching has completely fallen off a cliff. They’re getting terrible starting pitching lately and when they do have the lead they have a terrible bullpen. Love their line-up they can score with anyone but that bullpen is really bad.


Yeah don’t mind him in the line-up but at least put him 7-9. He has no business being in the lineup where driving in possible runs could win us the game. But same goes for Vladdy but John doesn’t have the balls to move him from his spot
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Vladdy’s been one of the best on the team at getting on base. Even if the power numbers aren’t there he’s a guy you want near the top.
 
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Eyedea said:
Vladdy’s been one of the best on the team at getting on base. Even if the power numbers aren’t there he’s a guy you want near the top.
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I meant more about driving in runs. He’s a ground ball/DP machine lately. But who else are they going to put there right. Maybe Davis but something tells me there’s a better chance of Davis getting benched after hitting a grand Slam over him batting clean up over Vladdy lol
 
Eyedea said:
Okay fine put Merrifield in since it’s a lefty, but he’s been the worst hitter over the last two weeks and has no business being near the top of the lineup.
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Yeah, that's brutal. I'm not big on making lineup decisions based on small samples, but a .447 OPS over the last 18 games is abysmal, and it's not like peak Merrifield is a guy you want in the middle of the lineup either.

stats1 said:
I meant more about driving in runs. He’s a ground ball/DP machine lately. But who else are they going to put there right. Maybe Davis but something tells me there’s a better chance of Davis getting benched after hitting a grand Slam over him batting clean up over Vladdy lol
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I mean... he had settled into the 5 spot in the lineup, and he's hit 2nd or 4th in every game he's started since the Bo/Chapman injuries. He's hitting 3rd today. They obviously consider Schneider and Vladdy the two best hitters on the team right now.
 
mikeyz said:
How does that not make sense? I am talking about the 4 game series between Texas and Toronto.

If Toronto wins that series 3-1 or 4-0 they will most likely make it and vice versa. If there’s a sweep, It’s potentially a 6-8 game swing. If Toronto is 0.5 - 1 game up going into that series and they sweep, they’ll be 4.5-5 games up in a WC spot and if they get swept they’ll be 2.5-3 games back.

If they take 3 of 4 they’ll be 2.5-3 games up and if Texas takes 3 of 4 they’ll be 1.5-2 games back.

So, again, I ask. How does that not make sense?
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There is more than Texas to consider. Stop fixating on one team. It's still highly possible that even with a 3-1 series that both could make it.

Seattle and Houston could fall out too. Seatlle has the toughest remaining schedule.

So again, your take makes no sense. If it was the last week of the season, yes....
 
Discoverer said:
Yeah, that's brutal. I'm not big on making lineup decisions based on small samples, but a .447 OPS over the last 18 games is abysmal, and it's not like peak Merrifield is a guy you want in the middle of the lineup either.
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He shouldn't be batting 4th ... but also looking at the lineup tonight, the only guy batting 5th or later with an OPS+ above 90 is Ernie Clement. There isn't a lot of choice.
 
MS said:
He shouldn't be batting 4th ... but also looking at the lineup tonight, the only guy batting 5th or later with an OPS+ above 90 is Ernie Clement. There isn't a lot of choice.
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Go back about a month and he's been the worst hitter on the team. And honestly outside of a super hot July he's been pretty rough.

I was in agreement of him being the starting 2B at the beginning of the season but he shouldn't be getting regular at bats at this point in the season.
 
Puckstuff said:
Can Horwitz not play adequate in LF?

Because his bat over Whit (who doesn't hit righties as well and is scuffling a bit recently) would have been preferable.

Also I'm not sure why you would bat Espinal in front of Clement.
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They aren't going to scratch Whit for Horwitz with a LHP on the mound.

Eyedea said:
Go back about a month and he's been the worst hitter on the team. And honestly outside of a super hot July he's been pretty rough.

I was in agreement of him being the starting 2B at the beginning of the season but he shouldn't be getting regular at bats at this point in the season.
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I get that he's had a poor last few weeks. It isn't a month as he slashed a .780 OPS on August 1-15.

Mostly it's a bad 10-day stretch between August 16-27. He went 9-26 against Washington/Colorado before this series.

Managers don't turn All-Star vets into bench players based on a sample size that small.
 
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ShaneFalco said:
Have we heard a timeline on Jansen? Chapman? Bichette due back fri?
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I know this isn't overly helpful but it seems it will be a while yet....

I believe Danny saw a specialist today so should get more info soon.

www.cbssports.com

Blue Jays' Matt Chapman: Not ready to ramp up activities yet

Blue Jays' Matt Chapman: Not ready to ramp up activities yet
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

2 hours ago for Matt Chapman

As for Bo there's a good chance he's back on the weekend. Maybe Friday.
 
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MS said:
They aren't going to scratch Whit for Horwitz with a LHP on the mound.



I get that he's had a poor last few weeks. It isn't a month as he slashed a .780 OPS on August 1-15.

Mostly it's a bad 10-day stretch between August 16-27. He went 9-26 against Washington/Colorado before this series.

Managers don't turn All-Star vets into bench players based on a sample size that small.
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my bad, I thought Sears was a righty. Just tuning in now.
 
MS said:
They aren't going to scratch Whit for Horwitz with a LHP on the mound.



I get that he's had a poor last few weeks. It isn't a month as he slashed a .780 OPS on August 1-15.

Mostly it's a bad 10-day stretch between August 16-27. He went 9-26 against Washington/Colorado before this series.

Managers don't turn All-Star vets into bench players based on a sample size that small.
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Half of those games at the beginning of August were 0-fers too. He's gone from a 116 wRC+ at the end of July to a 101 right now. He was scorching at the bottom of the order, he moved straight up to leadoff when Springer was struggling, and yet he struggled there too (83 wRC+). A couple of games in Colorado isn't going to change the fact that he's not a middle of the order bat and should be played lower in the lineup.
 
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