HF Habs: 2023 Roster, Schedule & Standings Thread

[rickthegoon]

A little positive post after last night’s loss to the oilers ?
After the first quarter of the season, we have the #1 goal scorer amongst all rookie defence men in the league with Wifi at 4.
We have 2 of the top 5 rookie defense men in points with Wifi and Guhle, and 3 of the top 10 when you add Harris at number 8.
Another mind blowing stat ; Wifi is number 15 amongst ALL players in the league ( vet+rookie, forward+defense) for ppg\60min even if he has next to none pp time.
And if you remove forwards from that stat and compare him only to defense men, he jumps up to number 2 in the league.

 

[Benstheman]

A little positive post after last night’s loss to the oilers ?
After the first quarter of the season, we have the #1 goal scorer amongst all rookie defence men in the league with Wifi at 4.
We have 2 of the top 5 rookie defense men in points with Wifi and Guhle, and 3 of the top 10 when you add Harris at number 8.
Another mind blowing stat ; Wifi is number 15 amongst ALL players in the league ( vet+rookie, forward+defense) for ppg\60min even if he has next to none pp time.
And if you remove forwards from that stat and compare him only to defense men, he jumps up to number 2 in the league.

Jackeye is pretty good at playing hockey. He brings so much to the table. He is a keeper going forward.

 

[Sterling Archer]

A couple of trades and they should be back on track for a high pick. Monahan will be a significant loss. Looks like they are showcasing Matheson. If they succeed in moving some vets like Hoffman and Dadanov it’s a long term win but will likely drop them a bit this year.

Overplaying Allen should ensure either an injury or weak outings. I suppose an injury could improve the team if Montembault keeps it up.

Hahahaha. They are not showcasing Matheson.

 

[Ozmodiar]

This team is ahead of schedule because of the play of the rookie defensemen.

Over 20M in forwards’ contracts will be off the books after this season, and several rookies will be ready to step in - Farrell, Beck, Heineman, Mesar.

Next season could be a transition year with a large rookie class, with HuGo making a little splash to clear up the center situation. Something like:

CC - NS - Dach
Slaf - PLD - Mesar
Farrell - Dvo - Gally
Heineman - Beck - Evans

Top 6 all 1st rd draft picks, all 25 and under.

 

[ReHabs]

This team is ahead of schedule because of the play of the rookie defensemen.

Over 20M in forwards’ contracts will be off the books after this season, and several rookies will be ready to step in - Farrell, Beck, Heineman, Mesar.

Next season could be a transition year with a large rookie class, with HuGo making a little splash to clear up the center situation. Something like:

CC - NS - Dach
Slaf - PLD - Mesar
Farrell - Dvo - Gally
Heineman - Beck - Evans

Top 6 all 1st rd draft picks, all 25 and under.

Some questions: Mesar is ready for a top6 role as a rookie — huh?

How did we acquire PLD and where did Armia, Hoffman, and Anderson run off to?

You have four rookies and a sophomore in this top12 and they’re all rather undersized and not tough. Suffice to say it’s an unlikely sight.

 

[26Mats]

This team is ahead of schedule because of the play of the rookie defensemen.

Over 20M in forwards’ contracts will be off the books after this season, and several rookies will be ready to step in - Farrell, Beck, Heineman, Mesar.

Next season could be a transition year with a large rookie class, with HuGo making a little splash to clear up the center situation. Something like:

CC - NS - Dach
Slaf - PLD - Mesar
Farrell - Dvo - Gally
Heineman - Beck - Evans

Top 6 all 1st rd draft picks, all 25 and under.

If something like this were to happen, I would hope Gally would be on the 4th line. He can't be on a line with Farrell or Mesar, and I hope those two are in the top 9.

He's been playing like a 4th liner anyways.

Hopefully Heineman is ready for 3rd line duties.

 

[26Mats]

Hahahaha. They are not showcasing Matheson.

I'mmcurious to see how many dmen they move this TDL from among Edmundson, Savard, and Matheson. I.e. how many vets do they want to keep around for the young guys? How much do they want to bottom out?

It would appear only one needs to be moved. If they move two, that shows they're serious about a full rebuild. Because that means Wideman comes back into the top 6, until Barron is ready to take his spot.

 

[Ozmodiar]

If something like this were to happen, I would hope Gally would be on the 4th line. He can't be on a line with Farrell or Mesar, and I hope those two are in the top 9.

He's been playing like a 4th liner anyways.

Hopefully Heineman is ready for 3rd line duties.

I hear ya, but Gally to the 4th is wishful thinking for now. Maybe another season or two down the line if he’s still here.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

This team is ahead of schedule because of the play of the rookie defensemen.

Over 20M in forwards’ contracts will be off the books after this season, and several rookies will be ready to step in - Farrell, Beck, Heineman, Mesar.

Next season could be a transition year with a large rookie class, with HuGo making a little splash to clear up the center situation. Something like:

CC - NS - Dach
Slaf - PLD - Mesar
Farrell - Dvo - Gally
Heineman - Beck - Evans

Top 6 all 1st rd draft picks, all 25 and under.

Unlikely scenario. Dubois has a year left. Mesar probably won't be ready. Same with Beck. Farrell might want to play another year in college. And the 2023 1st could be in the lineup depending on who the Habs draft

 

[Ozmodiar]

Unlikely scenario. Dubois has a year left. Mesar probably won't be ready. Same with Beck. Farrell might want to play another year in college. And the 2023 1st could be in the lineup depending on who the Habs draft

Winnipeg will trade PLD if he hasn’t changed his stance.
Beck and Mesar are close to ready.
Farrell, sure, that might very well be the case.

unlikely for it all to happen, of course, but solving the center situation and injecting youth will be the priority next season.

 

[badfish]

A little positive post after last night’s loss to the oilers ?
After the first quarter of the season, we have the #1 goal scorer amongst all rookie defence men in the league with Wifi at 4.
We have 2 of the top 5 rookie defense men in points with Wifi and Guhle, and 3 of the top 10 when you add Harris at number 8.
Another mind blowing stat ; Wifi is number 15 amongst ALL players in the league ( vet+rookie, forward+defense) for ppg\60min even if he has next to none pp time.
And if you remove forwards from that stat and compare him only to defense men, he jumps up to number 2 in the league.

I hope he doesn't sit again. Team is better with him in it. He's the Habs best defense at getting pucks to the net. Keep working on the defense and the discipline in the NHL. His growth curve is like nothing I have ever saw before. A very impressive player.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'mmcurious to see how many dmen they move this TDL from among Edmundson, Savard, and Matheson. I.e. how many vets do they want to keep around for the young guys? How much do they want to bottom out?

It would appear only one needs to be moved. If they move two, that shows they're serious about a full rebuild. Because that means Wideman comes back into the top 6, until Barron is ready to take his spot.

Savard and Matheson aren't going. Edmundson will be traded. It makes too much sense.

 

[26Mats]

Savard and Matheson aren't going. Edmundson will be traded. It makes too much sense.

We'll see. I think it depends on the offers.

 

[NORiculous]

we chose Slaf so let's root for his success. Rushing him to the NHL was not a good move imo but it's been done.

They can send him down anytime if they think he is not going to develop playing in the NHL.

 

[ReHabs]

They can send him down anytime if they think he is not going to develop playing in the NHL.

Well clearly the Habs organization, with its incredible record of developing projects, thinks they know better than I do, with my nearly as bad record of developing NHL prospects for the Habs.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Not too bad? Not too bad?! Eichel is a touch below PPG in his career and he played on Buffalo with nobody, this year on a playoff team he is on pace for 90+ points.

Meanwhile every Slaf supporter keeps lowering expectations and says we should look forward to a 60-70pt winger if everything turns out well.

Wright really should've played that Covid year, everything would've been different. His mistake and I don't hold it against the Habs for seeing too many question marks in Shane Wright.

Slaf has a lot going for him and he's our boy - we don't need to look to other 2022 draftees. But the thought of Wright turning into another Jack Eichel is very bitter.

There's no way Wright is becoming an Eichel type player, so don't worry about it. Not even close.

You Wright fans have completely lost your minds.

 

[Nedved]

It's starting to feel like Ottawa will pass us. We've been pretty healthy up front, we're due for the injury bug and a losing streak.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Winnipeg will trade PLD if he hasn’t changed his stance.
Beck and Mesar are close to ready.
Farrell, sure, that might very well be the case.

unlikely for it all to happen, of course, but solving the center situation and injecting youth will be the priority next season.

I agree that Habs should be injecting youth. I just don't see mesar being NHL ready next season. Maybe Beck, but if Dvorak is on the Habs still, I'd rather him get 20 min in junior than play fourth line C. Also Habs are better off waiting for PLD to hit free agency. Winnipeg will probably trade him to a contender as a rental and while it sucks for them, they'll have to take the L

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Only expectation I have for today is that Buffalo beats SJS preferably in OT, but I'll just take 2 pts. That moves Buffalo to within 2 pts of us, although we'll have a game in hand.

We need the mediocre teams to pass us by Christmas: Buffalo, Ottawa, St. Louis, Vancouver & Washington.

In 2nd half, we'll sell, and hopefully can catch up to the terrible teams: Ana, Chi, CBJ, Ari, SJS, & Phi.

It's possible Philadelphia gets healthier in 2nd half, and we get behind them. They're only 4 pts back as it is.

The bottom 4 are starting to separate themselves though: Ana, Chi, CBJ & Arizona.

Don't think we catch them. 5th is still possible. Then hope for a lottery win.

 

[Mrb1p]

What a bad take. You conveniently present it like people flip-floped on Wright but in reality you had different people saying different things.

No one changed their minds, you just realized you were listening to the wrong people. Most of the people on this board that actually watch prospects had reservations about Wright.

Yes, people changed their minds. The majority, if not entirety, of the hockey world thought Wright was at least a Matthews level prospect. And rightfully so, as he was amazing pre-covid. He carried that until a bit before his D-1 where he didnt play so he lost hype.

There is no need to re-write history.

 

[26Mats]

Only expectation I have for today is that Buffalo beats SJS preferably in OT, but I'll just take 2 pts. That moves Buffalo to within 2 pts of us, although we'll have a game in hand.

We need the mediocre teams to pass us by Christmas: Buffalo, Ottawa, St. Louis, Vancouver & Washington.

In 2nd half, we'll sell, and hopefully can catch up to the terrible teams: Ana, Chi, CBJ, Ari, SJS, & Phi.

It's possible Philadelphia gets healthier in 2nd half, and we get behind them. They're only 4 pts back as it is.

The bottom 4 are starting to separate themselves though: Ana, Chi, CBJ & Arizona.

Don't think we catch them. 5th is still possible. Then hope for a lottery win.

Maybe Laine coming back helps Columbus. But really a shame they lost Werenski for the year.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Maybe Laine coming back helps Columbus. But really a shame they lost Werenski for the year.

It's possible they beat Detroit, but Wings have playoff aspirations, and got thumped last night, so I expect the Wings to play a hard game.

Only thing about Wings, they are not a good road team, and game is in Columbus.

 

[McGees]

Only expectation I have for today is that Buffalo beats SJS preferably in OT, but I'll just take 2 pts. That moves Buffalo to within 2 pts of us, although we'll have a game in hand.

We need the mediocre teams to pass us by Christmas: Buffalo, Ottawa, St. Louis, Vancouver & Washington.

In 2nd half, we'll sell, and hopefully can catch up to the terrible teams: Ana, Chi, CBJ, Ari, SJS, & Phi.

It's possible Philadelphia gets healthier in 2nd half, and we get behind them. They're only 4 pts back as it is.

The bottom 4 are starting to separate themselves though: Ana, Chi, CBJ & Arizona.

Don't think we catch them. 5th is still possible. Then hope for a lottery win.

Phi had a MUCH better start but I always anticipated them and SJ to be bottom 4 with Chi and Ari.
CBJ and ANA blew me away with their sucktitude. I think the absolute highest pick pre lottery we can expect is 7 but still more likely I see us 10-15 atm

 

[ReHabs]

There's no way Wright is becoming an Eichel type player, so don't worry about it. Not even close.

You Wright fans have completely lost your minds.

Not worried at this time, and definitely not a Wright fan. I don’t follow amateur hockey or have any preferences. I was more opposed to the 10pt wunderkind than supportive of any prospect. My argument was simple: if it really is a coin flip, go with the C or D who have a more typical D year profile than the W who had 10 pts.

In any case, we can also say it’s unlikely Slaf will ever be Jagr, Hossa, Rantanen, or any of the dozens of other big Ws to whom he was favourably compared.

It was simply a bad draft year

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Phi had a MUCH better start but I always anticipated them and SJ to be bottom 4 with Chi and Ari.
CBJ and ANA blew me away with their sucktitude. I think the absolute highest pick pre lottery we can expect is 7 but still more likely I see us 10-15 atm

CBJ goaltending let them down. They have the worst goaltending in the league. They're really not bad at forward.

D isn't great and took a hit with Werenski going down for the year.

They're last year's NJ team a bit. Devils fans were all, "we just need average goaltending & one more top 4D," and they were right.

CBJ are in same boat. Inconsistent goaltending, need another top 4D along with Werenski.