HF Habs: 2023 Roster, Schedule & Standings Thread

[BenchBrawl]

The more it goes, the less I believe we can crack the Top 4.

My guess is we'll pick 5th-6th with our pick, and 12th-13th with Florida's.

This will get us two solid players, but still very disappointing as we'll miss yet again on drafting a true superstar franchise forward, something we didn't have since Guy Lafleur.

Kent Hughes should trade the goalies and fuel the tank. Soon.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Reichel was my pick instead of Guhle. Both will be good players.

Taken back-to-back. Guhle #16. Reichel #17. I believe Reichel was a popular pick for a lot of people on here. It was his 3rd NHL game this season (played 11 last season).

Except for the first 2 picks (Lafreniere & Byfield), who are disappointments, 2020 was an excellent draft.

Stutzle, Raymond, Sanderson, Drysdale, Quinn, Perfetti, Lundell, Jarvis, Guhle, Mercer, & Schneider are already having major impacts for their clubs.

There's more coming too.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Even if a player drafted after him surpasses Guhle, I see no point in lamenting the Guhle pick. He's playing like a stud at a young age at a position which isn't known to be forgiven to young players. Guhle is a great asset and a terrific pick in the mid-1st round.

 

[Nicko999]

Pastrnak gets a hattrick. 4-1 Bruins late 2nd. Ducks are done.

So Florida loss, Blues win & a 3pt game between Chi/Calgary with a Chicago win is all we got today.

It's not going to be easy catching the bottom 5 teams that's for sure. They're all shit. Lol

To me, it's an OK tank day.

The 3 most important things for the tank are (in order of importance):
1. Habs losing
2. Panthers losing
3. The 32nd team winning.

#1 could not happen today and #2 and 3 happened so I am happy.

 

[ReHabs]

To me, it's an OK tank day.

The 3 most important things for the tank are (in order of importance):
1. Habs losing
2. Panthers losing
3. The 32nd team winning.

#1 could not happen today and #2 and 3 happened so I am happy.

Very good perspective.

 

[BaseballCoach]

To me, it's an OK tank day.

The 3 most important things for the tank are (in order of importance):
1. Habs losing
2. Panthers losing
3. The 32nd team winning.

#1 could not happen today and #2 and 3 happened so I am happy.

I would switch 1 and 2. If the Habs and Panthers are playing, it is Florida who should lose in regulation.

As for point 3, it is really any team below the worse of Habs or Panthers. But if Chicago is playing Arizona or San José, I want Chicago to lose in overtime.

If Chicago plays .500 for the rest of the year, they may still finish worse than the Habs. But if San Jose and Arizona play .500 for the rest of the year, Habs probably move from 6th worst to 4th worst.

Pastrnak gets a hattrick. 4-1 Bruins late 2nd. Ducks are done.

So Florida loss, Blues win & a 3pt game between Chi/Calgary with a Chicago win is all we got today.

It's not going to be easy catching the bottom 5 teams that's for sure. They're all shit. Lol

Catching Arizona and San José is within reach.

 

[BLONG7]

The more it goes, the less I believe we can crack the Top 4.

My guess is we'll pick 5th-6th with our pick, and 12th-13th with Florida's.

This will get us two solid players, but still very disappointing as we'll miss yet again on drafting a true superstar franchise forward, something we didn't have since Guy Lafleur.

Kent Hughes should trade the goalies and fuel the tank. Soon.

The goalies, are pretty much driving the tank...........win one and lose 6-7 games...........don't trade either now.

 

[sandviper]

Pasta. When you get the chance at an elite level talent and you have the cap room, you jump on it. If we miss out on Pasta, we can also see what happens with Aho.

100%

PLD is a solid 2C on a contender. Pasta is on a different level.

As for Aho, depends on management but I guess if HuGo can have a PK night, they don’t hold grudges against former players

 

[SwiftyHab]

100%

PLD is a solid 2C on a contender. Pasta is on a different level.

As for Aho, depends on management but I guess if HuGo can have a PK night, they don’t hold grudges against former players

Wait. Whose pasta?

 

[SwiftyHab]

So we’re 6 losses back from last place Chicago with a half-season left to play. Tankathon has us as having the hardest remaining schedule while Chicago ranks as 17th hardest. There’s still a chance that we get whatever the opposite of the President’s trophy is. I’m guessing it’s called the Asshole trophy just based on my card game skills.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Wait. Whose pasta?

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not? Pasta is Pastrnak. He's not signing with the Habs so that idea is wishful thinking like Tavares back when.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not? Pasta is Pastrnak. He's not signing with the Habs so that idea is wishful thinking like Tavares back when.

Thanks. Wasn’t being sarcastic.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Wait. Whose pasta?

It's a food.

 

[SwiftyHab]

It's a food.

Food that’s only served in Boston evidently

 

[badfish]

The more it goes, the less I believe we can crack the Top 4.

My guess is we'll pick 5th-6th with our pick, and 12th-13th with Florida's.

This will get us two solid players, but still very disappointing as we'll miss yet again on drafting a true superstar franchise forward, something we didn't have since Guy Lafleur.

Kent Hughes should trade the goalies and fuel the tank. Soon.

At the 30 game mark (December 20th) I posted some analysis to previous seasons vs. this season. The two key take-aways from the analysis were by the 30 game mark last season, most teams in the bottom-10 only moved 1 or 2 spots. The other key take away is that I estimated the 4th last team will probably end with a win % around 0.400, and that the Canadiens would need a 0.35 win percentage the rest of the way to get to that point (which is a similar win % to last season).

As an update to that, the Canadiens last-10 has been terrible. Despite that, the Canadiens still would need to go 0.363 the rest of the way to hit 0.400. That's about 15% worse than the current season trend. That is slightly better than the win % of Anaheim right now for context.

The bottom 10 on Dec-20 and today has only changed slightly (most taems moving only 1 or 2 spots), with St. Louis moving out and Florida entering the bottom 10. The exception is the Canadiens have dropped 3 spots.

I still think a top-4 or top-5 pick is attainable. I think there's reason to believe the Canadiens are better than the last-10 record suggests, but that they should also see a drop in wins after the trade-deadline.

If the Canadiens get to 4th last and Florida stays put, they have a 29.7% chance at a top-2 pick which is great odds imo.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Food that’s only served in Boston evidently

And Bread is only served in NYC. "Breadman"... Panarin

At the 30 game mark (December 20th) I posted some analysis to previous seasons vs. this season. The two key take-aways from the analysis were by the 30 game mark last season, most teams in the bottom-10 only moved 1 or 2 spots. The other key take away is that I estimated the 4th last team will probably end with a win % around 0.400, and that the Canadiens would need a 0.35 win percentage the rest of the way to get to that point (which is a similar win % to last season).

As an update to that, the Canadiens last-10 has been terrible. Despite that, the Canadiens still would need to go 0.363 the rest of the way to hit 0.400. That's about 15% worse than the current season trend. That is slightly better than the win % of Anaheim right now for context.

The bottom 10 on Dec-20 and today has only changed slightly (most taems moving only 1 or 2 spots), with St. Louis moving out and Florida entering the bottom 10. The exception is the Canadiens have dropped 3 spots.

I still think a top-4 or top-5 pick is attainable. I think there's reason to believe the Canadiens are better than the last-10 record suggests, but that they should also see a drop in wins after the trade-deadline.

If the Canadiens get to 4th last and Florida stays put, they have a 29.7% chance at a top-2 pick which is great odds imo.

4-8 range is probable for the Habs. Habs range is small at this stage cause it will be difficult to move down 2 picks just as much as it is to move up 2 picks.

8-16 range is probable for the Panthers. Very difficult to project. I expected them to battle the Stars well yesterday but they didn't. Their team is not trending well but they will keep trying. At some point, they will come to grips that playoffs is not reachable and then what? Their players may be uninspired. Their players don't care that their GM traded their unprotected 1st. In another month, 8-12 range might be probable for the Panthers.

 

[sandviper]

And Bread is only served in NYC. "Breadman"



4-8 range is probable for the Habs. Habs range is small at this stage cause it will be difficult to move down 2 picks just as much as it is to move up 2 picks.

8-16 range is probable for the Panthers. Very difficult to project. I expected them to battle the Stars well yesterday but they didn't. Their team is not trending well but they will keep trying. At some point, they will come to grips that playoffs is not reachable and then what? Their players may be uninspired. Their players don't care that their GM traded their unprotected 1st. In another month, 8-12 range might be probable for the Panthers.

Agreed with the ranges, though I feel the Habs will fall more in the 6-8 range. Top-4 I really do feel is out of reach, though we can hope. Really depends who we move leading up to and including the TDL.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Agreed with the ranges, though I feel the Habs will fall more in the 6-8 range. Top-4 I really do feel is out of reach, though we can hope. Really depends who we move leading up to and including the TDL.

I tend to agree. Teams around us and below us are thinking the same as us. Heading into the season, I said 5-10 or 8-12 but my favorite one spot prediction was the 7th pick. Lucky # 7. If we get 6 or 8 and the team with the 7th pick wins, I'm going to be annoyed.

With the Panthers pick, I do expect them to drop a bit more in a month's time after they fall out of the playoff picture even more. The players know very well they have a very big mountain to climb and at some point, they stop playing 100%. They can't even be competitive against the Stars where that was a big game for them. It's possible some of their players have already given up on the playoffs this year.

 

[the valiant effort]

27th Pts%
29th GF/G
29th GA/G
29th goal diff.
32nd PP
24th PK
T-28th with SJ reg. wins
T-27th with ARI reg/OT wins
29th xGF%
29th HDCF%
8-10-0 at home
8-11-3 away

Randomly selected team records since the Habs beat the Pens in OT on Saturday, November 12th to move to 8-6-1:

29. ARI 7-14-4 .360, 5 RW, 6 ROW
30. MTL 8-15-2 .360, 4 RW, 5 ROW
31. CBJ 8-16-1 .340, 5 RW, 7 ROW
32. CHI 4-20-1 .180, 3 RW, 4 ROW

 

[Nicko999]

I would switch 1 and 2. If the Habs and Panthers are playing, it is Florida who should lose in regulation.

As for point 3, it is really any team below the worse of Habs or Panthers. But if Chicago is playing Arizona or San José, I want Chicago to lose in overtime.

If Chicago plays .500 for the rest of the year, they may still finish worse than the Habs. But if San Jose and Arizona play .500 for the rest of the year, Habs probably move from 6th worst to 4th worst.


Catching Arizona and San José is within reach.

Let's put it this way, if Chicago and Arizona are playing, Chicago winning increases our odds at Bedard more than Arizona winning. As long as that 32nd place is mathematically possible, you aim for it (from a tanking perspective).

 

[Gravity]

6-8 would be a bummer. We need that franchise C.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Desired results for tonight:

- MTL regulation loss to SEA: SEA win would move them 10 pts up on FLA with 2 games in hand.

For the following matches, as many OT/SO finishes as possible would be best scenario:

- PHI OT/SO win vs. BUF: PHI win puts them within 1 pt of FLA. BUF with a loser point moves 4 pts up and will have 3 games in hand.
- OTT OT/SO win vs. NSH: OTT win would put them 1 pt ahead of FLA with 1 game in hand. NSH loser point puts them 3 pts up with 2 games in hand.
- EDM win vs. LAK: EDM win would put them 7 pts up on FLA.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Even if a player drafted after him surpasses Guhle, I see no point in lamenting the Guhle pick. He's playing like a stud at a young age at a position which isn't known to be forgiven to young players. Guhle is a great asset and a terrific pick in the mid-1st round.

Guhle was build strong from the back end out like Romanov was and Guhle has more offensive potential. I remember several fans who had Barron penciled on our roster and said "Guhle should play AHL to develop properly". .

Not sure where Guhle tops out at but he was a legit grade A prospect for a while now. He started in the NHL playing 20 min a game at age 20. That's very rare.

 

[DAChampion]

Taken back-to-back. Guhle #16. Reichel #17. I believe Reichel was a popular pick for a lot of people on here. It was his 3rd NHL game this season (played 11 last season).

What about Mercer and Hendrix Lapierre?

 

[rahad]

To me, it's an OK tank day.

The 3 most important things for the tank are (in order of importance):
1. Habs losing
2. Panthers losing
3. The 32nd team winning.

#1 could not happen today and #2 and 3 happened so I am happy.

Forget about Chicago for now. No way we out tank this team. They are beyond horrible.

I would focus more on passing Arizona, San Jose ,Anaheim and maybe Columbus).

Finishing bottom 2 or 3 would be great.