Red Sox/MLB 2023 Regular Season V - 58 games to go - Kiké Hernandez to the Dodgers for prospects

[quietbruinfan]

Nice to see the Yankees back in last where they belong.

 

[McGarnagle]

What's crazy is how if we managed to sneak in, the 3rd WC is actually a really good path because it'd draw the AL Central winner in a best-of-3.

 

[SImpelton]

Kind of the point

I am glad that maybe the farm system is better.

Meanwhile one of the most revenue generating teams of money could of concentrated on the Major League roster at the same time

They did? The Red Sox are like a top 5 team in the AL right now. It's just that the other 4 are also in the East. That's certainly not Bloom's fault!

 

[CDJ]

Wicker Man Gonzalez with 6 scoreless and 9 K’s in his AA debut

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

They did? The Red Sox are like a top 5 team in the AL right now. It's just that the other 4 are also in the East. That's certainly not Bloom's fault!

There is what he hope for and then there is reality.

If they can maybe do it? Good. But I am not going to place any bets.

I like Dombroski’s pick of Bello though.

A good pitcher

 

[SImpelton]

There is what he hope for and then there is reality.

The reality is that the Red Sox are a strong team this year. We've got a lot of young guys learning on the job and we're still winning more than we lose. It's not gonna take long before we're fighting for the division. We're just a little unseasoned for it to be reasonable to expect the team to close the deal this year.

 

[GatorMike]

Meanwhile one of the most revenue generating teams of money could of concentrated on the Major League roster at the same time

Ultimately, either the major league team or the farm system has to take priority at any given point in time.

And if you view a robust, productive farm system as the key to building a sustainable winner, then it makes sense to make that the priority... at least for now.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

There is what he hope for and then there is reality.

If they can maybe do it? Good. But I am not going to place any bets.

I like Dombroski’s piick of Bello though.

A good pitcher

Lol

 

[CDJ]

Boycott the team!!!!!!!

 

[Smitty93]

While we're thanking Dombrowski, can I thank him for trading Bello for Mike Clevinger in an alternate timeline? (We all know he would 100% have done that)

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

While we're thanking Dombrowski, can I thank him for trading Bello for Mike Clevinger in an alternate timeline? (We all know he would 100% have done that)

Seriously lmao. The only reason we have Bello and Casas is because DD was canned before they developed enough for him to deal them.

And I refuse to give GM’s much credit for IFA signings. It’s an insult to the guys actually responsible for finding these players.

 

[GatorMike]

While we're thanking Dombrowski, can I thank him for trading Bello for Mike Clevinger in an alternate timeline? (We all know he would 100% have done that)

Nah.

Dave Dombrowski did what he was hired to do, and he did it well.

I don't believe for a second that he was the right guy to fix his own mess moving forward, though.

 

[CDJ]

Dombrowski was usually pretty good about knowing who to trade, the problem is there was zero org depth and not a ton of financial flexibility due to some of the contracts he gave out

So as Mike said- he did what he was brought here to do and I can’t fault him for that. That 2018 team is one of the best ever. But he did create a sticky situation that he probably would have only made worse had he been kept on.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

While we're thanking Dombrowski, can I thank him for trading Bello for Mike Clevinger in an alternate timeline? (We all know he would 100% have done that)

Seriously lmao. The only reason we have Bello and Casas is because DD was canned before they developed enough for him to deal them.

And I refuse to give GM’s much credit for IFA signings. It’s an insult to the guys actually responsible for finding these players.

So my post is silly because of something that might of happened in an alternate universe. Just lovely.

 

[ON3M4N]

Seriously lmao. The only reason we have Bello and Casas is because DD was canned before they developed enough for him to deal them.

And I refuse to give GM’s much credit for IFA signings. It’s an insult to the guys actually responsible for finding these players.

I was looking around for a list of DD's trade while in Boston. One of the more complete lists I looked at didn't really have any earth shatter guys he traded away.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Kind of the point

I am glad that maybe the farm system is better.

Meanwhile one of the most revenue generating teams of money could of concentrated on the Major League roster at the same time

Bringing in Yoshida, Turner and Duvall seems to have improved the Major League roster.

 

[CDJ]

Bringing in Yoshida, Turner and Duvall seems to have improved the Major League roster.

Martin and Jansen vs last season have been great too

 

[SImpelton]

Nah.

Dave Dombrowski did what he was hired to do, and he did it well.

I don't believe for a second that he was the right guy to fix his own mess moving forward, though.

Dealer Dave is the reason we won a trophy in 2018. Also probably the reason we didn't win one in 19, 20, 21, and 22. When you gut the farm system it takes years to organically regrow that talent stream.

That said, without drastic changes we don't win in 18 and probably still don't win in 19-23 so Dumbo sstill probably put us ahead of where we woulda been. but you knew going in what he was gonna do and why so no one has any excuse to be sour about it.

 

[JRull86]

I was looking around for a list of DD's trade while in Boston. One of the more complete lists I looked at didn't really have any earth shatter guys he traded away.

This is correct.

He identified the prospects to keep, and generally did a good job selling high on others.

Moncada was probably the best prospect he traded away, and he's been...not great for 4 years now.

Kopech has been okay as well, but generally Dombrowski did a good job trading away pieces that turned into nothing.

 

[McGarnagle]

This is correct.

He identified the prospects to keep, and generally did a good job selling high on others.

Moncada was probably the best prospect he traded away, and he's been...not great for 4 years now.

Kopech has been okay as well, but generally Dombrowski did a good job trading away pieces that turned into nothing.

Yep, as much as Dombrowski "gutted" the farm with trades, none of those prospects turned into anything, and Kopech is the only one who I'd even say that the team could use at the moment - but even then the Sale trade was worth it.

 

[CDJ]

I’m just happy the white Sox chose Moncada over Devers

 

[EverettMike]

The problem wasn't that Dombrowski traded away all their top prospects, it was that he always paid retail sticker price in every trade.

It's not hard to sign guys or trade for them when you do that. To his credit he seemed to do a good job identifying which prospects to move (who has really come back to haunt them?), but both things can be true.

 

[JRull86]

The problem wasn't that Dombrowski traded away all their top prospects, it was that he always paid retail sticker price in every trade.

It's not hard to sign guys or trade for them when you do that. To his credit he seemed to do a good job identifying which prospects to move (who has really come back to haunt them?), but both things can be true.

For sure.

He did what the hired him to do, and it was time to move on when they did.

They needed a reset, and he sure as hell was not the person to do that

 

[DKH]

Nah.

Dave Dombrowski did what he was hired to do, and he did it well.

I don't believe for a second that he was the right guy to fix his own mess moving forward, though.

Well said

I bet he through his wife one hell of a party for her 40th

 

[McGarnagle]

Well said

I bet he through his wife one hell of a party for her 40th

He probably traded his wife, his highest-achieving kid, and the family dog for a Swedish model