Patriots/NFL 2023 Regular Season Part 2: Patriots officially eliminated from playoffs

[Troublesome 85]

Chargers will be canning their HC


Bills new future home

 

[Therick67]

I wish Grier had told Bill to FO. But A check is a check

I’m guessing nobody else wants him, since anyone could have had him - so he should probably be thankful..

 

[Johnnyduke]

I want to see them dress all three and then also Cunningham. Each QB gets one quarter of play. The Chargers won't know what hit em.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

This would be a perfect time to bring the Pat Patriot uniforms back on a full time basis.

Number one, because it’s a better look.

Number two, because they now look, operate, and perform like the Pat Patriot era Patriots.

Or Bledsoe era jerseys.

 

[Mione134]

I want to see them dress all three and then also Cunningham. Each QB gets one quarter of play. The Chargers won't know what hit em.

Bill's taking notes.

 

[Gee Wally]

Panthers are prowling for a big-name head coach. Watch out for Bill Belichick. - The Boston Globe

There are several reasons why taking over in Carolina next season would make sense for Belichick.

www.bostonglobe.com

With the Patriots one of the NFL’s worst teams at 2-9, and Bill Belichick’s tenure likely ending after this season, one nonstop topic of late has been predicting Belichick’s future and where he could coach in 2024.

The two teams most widely discussed, and the two favorites on the board with sportsbooks, are the Commanders and Chargers. New Commanders owner Josh Harris is expected to fire Ron Rivera after this season, and Chargers owner Dean Spanos may relieve coach Brandon Staley as soon as next week if his team loses to the Patriots Sunday and falls to 4-8.

But there is another team that joined the conversation Monday and needs to be taken seriously. The Panthers are on the prowl after firing coach Frank Reich, and Belichick makes sense for all kinds of reasons.

This isn’t just my opinion; this is based on conversations with league sources who know the coaching market and know Belichick. Keep a close eye on Belichick and Carolina.

Belichick, despite turning 72 next April, clearly wants to keep coaching. Carolina would be a good spot to finish out his career and break Don Shula’s record (Belichick is 16 wins from tying the overall record of 347, and 28 from the regular-season record of 328).

Carolina is a quiet market with a small media scene that Belichick could easily handle. He’d be far away from the Patriots in the NFC South, and wouldn’t have to face them until 2025. His arrival would likely be welcomed by Panthers fans, who are tired of watching losing teams led by nameless, faceless coaches. The organization could be a blank canvas, with general manager Scott Fitterer also likely to be fired after the season. Carolina is a short flight to Belichick’s homes in Nantucket and Florida.

And he would work for the NFL’s third-richest owner in David Tepper, a $20 billion hedge fund manager who could pay Belichick handsomely and easily cut a check to make any upgrades to the organization that Belichick deems necessary. Despite Tepper’s record of impatience with the Panthers, he’d be easier to work for than the notoriously penny-pinching Spanos, or the green and inexperienced Harris.

The bigger question is whether Tepper wants to commit to an aging coach who is coming off a poor stretch in New England. The sense I get is that it is very much on the table.

 

[PatriceBergeron]

Wide Receiver is 100% the most important position that they need to address. When your receivers get no separation it results in your O-Line and QB looking worse than it actually is. Put Gronk and Edelman on this exact same team and I guarantee they’d be a playoff team.

For the 5th consecutive year Belichick’s biggest mistake is not realizing that you can’t win with the David Patten’s and Jabar Gaffney’s of the world in this league anymore. If they continue to ignore the importance of having elite receivers in the modern NFL nothing is going to change.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Wide Receiver is 100% the most important position that they need to address. When your receivers get no separation it results in your O-Line and QB looking worse than it actually is. Put Gronk and Edelman on this exact same team and I guarantee they’d be a playoff team.

For the 5th consecutive year Belichick’s biggest mistake is not realizing that you can’t win with the David Patten’s and Jabar Gaffney’s of the world in this league anymore. If they continue to ignore the importance of having elite receivers in the modern NFL nothing is going to change.

QB is 100% the most important position that they need to address. When your QB sucks, it results in your receivers and oline looking worse than they actually are. Put Brady on this exact team and I guarantee they'd be a playoff team.

Belichick's biggest mistake is not realizing that you can't win with the Trent dilfers of the world in this league anymore. If he continues to ignore the importance of having an elite qb in the modern nfl, nothing is going to change.

 

[PatriceBergeron]

QB is 100% the most important position that they need to address. When your QB sucks, it results in your receivers and oline looking worse than they actually are. Put Brady on this exact team and I guarantee they'd be a playoff team.

Belichick's biggest mistake is not realizing that you can't win with the Trent dilfers of the world in this league anymore. If he continues to ignore the importance of having an elite qb in the modern nfl, nothing is going to change.

Except you can win with the Trent Dilfer’s of the world in the modern NFL when you surround them with weapons. The 49ers are 54-22 with Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purdy over the last 5 years.

Every single Super Bowl contender in the league has at least 1 elite offensive receiving option right now. Half of those teams don’t have elite quarterbacks in my opinion.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Except you can win with the Trent Dilfer’s of the world in the modern NFL when you surround them with weapons. The 49ers are 54-22 with Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purdy over the last 5 years.

Every single Super Bowl contender in the league has at least 1 elite offensive receiving option right now. Half of those teams don’t have elite quarterbacks in my opinion.

Happens once every couple deccdes and Baltimore had an all time D. Not a model thats consistent

 

[PatriceBergeron]

Happens once every couple deccdes and Baltimore had an all time D. Not a model thats consistent

We’ve seen plenty of bad to mediocre quarterbacks lead contenders just in the last few years. You can still compete for Super Bowls with guys like Nick Foles or Brock Purdy. I’m not sure you can with no elite receiving options.

 

[KrejciMVP]

We’ve seen plenty of bad to mediocre quarterbacks lead contenders just in the last few years. You can still compete for Super Bowls with guys like Nick Foles or Brock Purdy. I’m not sure you can with no elite receiving options.

I'll still take the franchise QB in any big game vs mid QB. Purdy hasn't won anything yet and Nick Foles was one of those lucky runs

 

[Seidenbergy]

Except you can win with the Trent Dilfer’s of the world in the modern NFL when you surround them with weapons. The 49ers are 54-22 with Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purdy over the last 5 years.

Every single Super Bowl contender in the league has at least 1 elite offensive receiving option right now. Half of those teams don’t have elite quarterbacks in my opinion.

Your argument requires a roster chock full of talent to mask the deficiencies of your qb. Mine requires ONE qb that can mask the deficiencies of many.

Name the last team to win a SB with one elite receiver and not much else. The old Detroit lions model doesn't work.

 

[Ben Grimm]

Four Verts: Eagles might have one glaring issue vs. 49ers, and here's some advice for David Tepper

Charles McDonald wraps up November with a look at Eagles-49ers, a message for the Panthers' team owner, and ... wow, Patriot, just wow.

sports.yahoo.com

Are you rooting for the Pats to lose?

 

[GatorMike]

 

[Cogliano13Gagner89]

 

[BernieMcAvoy]

Your ceiling is more likely to be the Tennessee Titans under Tannehill who average 9 wins a season and made one afc title game than you are the 49ers even if you have a stacked roster besides qb. Maybe you win a super bowl with a Foles or Dilfer but you'll go straight back to being a 9-10 win team who doesn't get to the Conference Championship after. 49ers and Rams tried to upgrade from Jimmy G and Goff, it worked for the Rams and even if it wasn't the guy they thought it would be, it looks like the 49ers have upgraded as well.


Since Bourne tore his acl and he's had the chance to play almost every down, Douglas as a 6th round pick has averaged more catches and yards than any of the first round pick wrs. Paku was in the 5th and has played great, Tank Dell a 3rd rounder. There's way more chances to get pass catchers to help the qb than there is franchise qbs. Mike Evans is a free agent, throw the bag at him to come catch passes from the new rookie qb. The only way Harrison should be a Patriot if one of the qbs are on the board when the Patriots pick is if they do what the Texans did and trade a haul to have the 3rd pick as well and draft Harrison then.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I think we can probably start something of a bidding war between Carolina, Chargers, and Commanders for Bill.

Carolina will give him full organizational control and the other 2 teams aren't that bad. Chargers could win the super bowl year 1 with him. A 2nd rounder would be phenomenal from one of those teams for Bill.

Who does everyone want with #3? I'm not sold on Maye or Williams wouldn't mind taking Marvin Jr and then going QB at the top of R2.

 

[Mione134]

I think we can probably start something of a bidding war between Carolina, Chargers, and Commanders for Bill.

Carolina will give him full organizational control and the other 2 teams aren't that bad. Chargers could win the super bowl year 1 with him. A 2nd rounder would be phenomenal from one of those teams for Bill.

Who does everyone want with #3? I'm not sold on Maye or Williams wouldn't mind taking Marvin Jr and then going QB at the top of R2.

I want MHJ and take my chances at getting a QB in the other rounds. I want to load up on the offense AND defense.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I want MHJ and take my chances at getting a QB in the other rounds. I want to load up on the offense AND defense.

I like Pennix and McCarthy. I guess if UW and Michigan win playoff games both might end up going sooner than R2.

So many good free agents on defense we can use our cap room on we have to load up on O in the draft.

 

[Mione134]

I like Pennix and McCarthy. I guess if UW and Michigan win playoff games both might end up going sooner than R2.

So many good free agents on defense we can use our cap room on we have to load up on O in the draft.

This is what they should do, should of done the last 2 years, but haven't.

I'll be holding my breath to see what happens

 

[GatorMike]

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

At least Zappe is starting this week. Got comical watching MJ but it was starting to get old instead of funny.

Something new to watch... Maybe with a week of #1 reps he won't look/play like ABSOLUTE dogshit, but who knows at this point.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Zappe vs the #1 pick and the world. go get em

 

[PatriceBergeron]

My fear is that they’re going to draft Drake Maye and he’s going to suck just like Mac Jones because this offense has nothing. I think there’s maybe 1 quarterback in the entire league that could succeed with this supporting cast.

If you want to tell me that the Patriots are going to spend big/trade for Tee Higgins, Mike Evans, or another comparable player then I’m fine with taking a QB. But again it seems like the Patriots don’t even realize that the lack of elite skill position players is the biggest issue on the roster and I don’t trust them to go get a player like that.