Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk XII

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I really think everyone needs to stop looking at last year's record as though it's some sort of baseline. They could replay last season with the exact same rosters a thousand times and not come within 20 points of what they did. It was an anomaly. They simply were not as good as their record indicated. and that's fine! Sometimes you just have a magical (regular) season where everything goes right, everyone has career years, and you seem invincible. But that doesn't mean you were. And you can't ever really repeat it.

The 2001 116-win Seattle Mariners followed that up with 93 wins in 2002. And they didn't lose the talent the Bs just did.
Best records 4 NA majors

Hockey - Bruins 135
Baseball/ Seattle 116-48
NBA/ Warriors 73-9
NFL/ 16-0

Warriors & Patriots lost in Finals in clinching games they led

Mariners lost in ACLS to Yankees

Bruins - well yeh

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And Tampa Bay Lightnig who held hockey Also lost
 
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Not disagreeing with you here and saying we arent in trouble without those two...but were Bergy and Krejci ever considered top prospects before they broke into the top 6?

I was too young to pay attention to that stuff at the time...but if one or two guys out of Merkulov/Locemelis/Poitras/anyone else can develop into a top 6 C, even if it takes another season of development, all of a sudden things are looking a lot less gloomy.
Not on draft day no. But Bergeron quickly impressed in his very first camp. That said, nobody knew how good he'd be. Krejci actually had a bit more hype when originally drafted. His slow pro start dulled the hype a bit though.

I'm not saying you are wrong about any of that... but the "Hey who knows maybe these prospects will all exceed expectations" is an argument that works both ways. Sure it's possible.

But if it is, then it's possible that DET's 2nd-4th rd unheralded picks can too, or OTT's or MTL's or FLA's. It's true that anything can happen and players can surprise you, but you don't PLAN for that or count on it. And until 1 of them shows they can play in the NHL at all, then any talk about them being top 6 C is premature. Could happen, but they need a plan better than "could happen".
 
And they have the Coach of the Year. Yes, he got outcoached in the playoffs, but we have a top 3 coach on the Bruins.
He only got outcoached badly 5 and 6

He still led them to a 3-1 lead
 
I’m seeing all these trades of Swayman or z Carlo & DeBrusk for Lindholm or Schaifele and I’m a hard pass

Screw that Donny

I just wait till next off season or deadline if need be and cost will be non NHL Players

Bruins got eliminated with one of the best teams I’ve seen so they might as well do the Costanza Opposite Theory
 
Not on draft day no. But Bergeron quickly impressed in his very first camp. That said, nobody knew how good he'd be. Krejci actually had a bit more hype when originally drafted. His slow pro start dulled the hype a bit though.

I'm not saying you are wrong about any of that... but the "Hey who knows maybe these prospects will all exceed expectations" is an argument that works both ways. Sure it's possible.

But if it is, then it's possible that DET's 2nd-4th rd unheralded picks can too, or OTT's or MTL's or FLA's. It's true that anything can happen and players can surprise you, but you don't PLAN for that or count on it. And until 1 of them shows they can play in the NHL at all, then any talk about them being top 6 C is premature. Could happen, but they need a plan better than "could happen".
Firstly - appreciate the info on how Bergeron and Krejci were regarded, that was more of a curiosity than anything.

The rest of it I definitely don't disagree with you - I'm not trying to sell you or anyone else on being optimistic because one of the better prospects in one of the weakest pools COULD turn into something, moreso just trying to say things change quicker than we might think...whether that's a UFA like Tavares testing the waters, a young C like PLD hitting the block, or a one of our prospects breaks out unexpectedly, it should never be the main plan, but is something that happens on a yearly basis around the league.

I think likely best case scenario is one of our guys breaks out on the wing and either becomes a trade piece for a C themselves, or makes someone like Debrusk more expendable in a deal.
 
Firstly - appreciate the info on how Bergeron and Krejci were regarded, that was more of a curiosity than anything.

The rest of it I definitely don't disagree with you - I'm not trying to sell you or anyone else on being optimistic because one of the better prospects in one of the weakest pools COULD turn into something, moreso just trying to say things change quicker than we might think...whether that's a UFA like Tavares testing the waters, a young C like PLD hitting the block, or a one of our prospects breaks out unexpectedly, it should never be the main plan, but is something that happens on a yearly basis around the league.

I think likely best case scenario is one of our guys breaks out on the wing and either becomes a trade piece for a C themselves, or makes someone like Debrusk more expendable in a deal.
I'd say there's a better than 50% chance that one of Poitras or Merkulov turn into a solid 2C. My bet would be Poitras. But yeah a year from now those odds could be higher and so could the upside. LIke you said, things change.
 
It’s August

Prez Trophy means crap

They bring back everyone on D and G but Clifton from a team that started 44-8-5
Problem there lies with the Bruins and their defensive structure its a 6 man unit and 3 of the best defensive forwards in the league are no longer there, including the best defensive forward to ever play the game. That's a big loss on the defensive side of the puck, no matter how you want to spin it.
 
I really think everyone needs to stop looking at last year's record as though it's some sort of baseline. They could replay last season with the exact same rosters a thousand times and not come within 20 points of what they did. It was an anomaly. They simply were not as good as their record indicated. and that's fine! Sometimes you just have a magical (regular) season where everything goes right, everyone has career years, and you seem invincible. But that doesn't mean you were. And you can't ever really repeat it.

The 2001 116-win Seattle Mariners followed that up with 93 wins in 2002. And they didn't lose the talent the Bs just did.
After December last year I was bored watching Bruins games until the playoffs started . They were going to finish first in the division, it was all that mattered at the time . I just want them to make the playoffs this year and then roll the dice . The games will be more exciting this year because they will mean more .
 
After December last year I was bored watching Bruins games until the playoffs started . They were going to finish first in the division, it was all that mattered at the time . I just want them to make the playoffs this year and then roll the dice . The games will be more exciting this year because they will mean more .
And because the outcome will be a mystery. I mean, wins last year were automatic.
 
This is the definition of getting too cute with the lineups.
Here's the thing.

There are no lines.

And there likely won't be halfway through the season. Gone are the days of knowing that Bergy/Marchand are your go-to pair, the lopsided deployment of lines 3/4 in the defensive zone, knowing who your #1-4 Cs are, etc. Hell your top center this season may not even be a center!

This isn't plug-and-play like we're used to. So could we see precisely what this article suggests? I doubt we won't. But I also doubt that any combination is going to last over 50% of the entire season. There are just too many question marks.
 
Im really curious to see how Morgan Geekie responds to the open spots for him to slide into. What a wild swing for the Bruins if he levels up in his progression and gets time/production/confidence playing with Marchand and DeBrusk.

Another younger guy who I hope levels up: Jakub Lauko. I think JVR is a safer bet to be the 1st line left winger but I like Lauko's speed, hustle, gumption, and underrated hands. I wouldn't expect him to produce like a 1st liner but I think he could help by doing the dirty work for that line and play hard. Kind of like how Zach Hyman was known for being a strong support player with his relentless forecheck and was put on the 1st line even though he wasn't a traditional 1st line type of player at first.
 
the truth is they will go into camp with a lot of competition for the open spots (many) ..best chemistry/guys will win opening roster jobs, Monty will juggle the lines like a world class street busker juggles flaming axes, first slump with any of the guys who won the open spots will lead to them being swapped for the next up, Monty will juggle lines again ..rinse repeat ...even if consistency is found Monty will likely keep juggling but hopefully not...one thing for certain Sway and Linus will face more high danger chances this year ... Bruins fate is mainly in their hands
 
I'm curious if Freddy will get some looks between Marchy and Debrusk? He did pot 17 goals last season playing 3rd line minutes. I don't think it'd be a stretch to say he could get 20-25 with those two line mates. Something to think about!

I'm really curious who's going to be playing with Pasta and Zacha?
My guess, Zacha is likely playing C. And throwing some sort of carousel of wingers with Pastrnak and Zacha until someone sticks. Pasta is good enough to make guys around him better.
 
Sweeney knows at some point he can go get one of these top guys

He’s wise to see how it unfolds you may get a surprise
Also might be so far out if a playoff spot with Coyle as a top 2 center and Grzcelyk in your top 4 D that making a late season add won't matter.

Goaltending, top 5 but will take a hit without Bergeron.

Defense, solid, Lindholm and Charlie are way above average, Carlo is solid, the rest are meh. Need at least one physical D.

Centers, nice depth but no real number 1, a good number two who has great chemistry with Pasta and a number 3 who is an offensive black hole. No help coming from Providence. Not many teams succeed with a top 2 center who only gets 40 points.

Wings are a great combination of skill, size, experience and youth and may help make up for the centers.

92 to 98 points and fighting for a wild card.
 
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I also don't really expect Sweeney to do anything. The cap is going up, Grizz is coming off and you can move Ullmark for another 5m in space. You can add a top line free agent center next year along with another top 3 D and top 6 wing. Lohrei should be ready and you should be contenders again.

Or Sweeney signs Matt Belesky and blows all his cap space on analytic gems and we sink to obscurity.
 
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