NHL Entry Draft 2023 NHL Draft Thread

[swiftwin]

In case you are wondering wtf happened to our picks. Not to worry our high end prospects are the envy of the league,
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Our high end young players absolutely are the envy of the league. What are you talking about?

 

[Rodzilla]

Thank f***ing god he didn't go to Montreal.

Yeah Montreal and their idiot fanbase can suck for a while as far as I am concerned. I made a bet with one of my friend that they’d be out of the playoffs as long as we currently have been.

I dislike their fanbase with a passion, makes me laugh when they say « nO pLaYoFfS fOr 6 YeArS. » they’re at 2 and counting plus they wouldnt have made the playoffs in a normal season during covid. Man f*** them

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Our high end young players absolutely are the envy of the league. What are you talking about?

words have meanings .. the individual words. You changed words to make some point that I agree with but its not the point I was discussing.

 

[bert]

Our high end young players absolutely are the envy of the league. What are you talking about?

I mean no. Lots of teams are built like this but they still have picks and prospects. This team needs to replenish the system its not nearly good enough for how bad this franchise has been. Cant wait for a new GM.

Debrincat (extended) and Chychrun > 7th and 12th overall.

Debrincat at 8 million a year is a negative asset. Theyre better off recouping picks and spreading out the cap space. This team has no depth up front and is way too easy to play against -31 small easy to play against. No thanks.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I mean no. Lots of teams are built like this but they still have picks and prospects. This team needs to replenish the system its not nearly good enough for how bad this franchise has been. Cant wait for a new GM.


Debrincat at 8 million a year is a negative asset. Theyre better off recouping picks and spreading out the cap space. This team has no depth up front and is way too easy to play against -31 small easy to play against. No thanks.

Debrincat at 8 mil is only bad because we have a whole roster of dead cap next season. If the cap goes up by a couple mil or Toronto buys out Murray we’ll get help on that front.

 

[Chabot84]

Glad to see it wasn’t the Sens pick that got Chicago Bedard? Right?!?!?!

 

[bert]

Debrincat at 8 mil is only bad because we have a whole roster of dead cap next season. If the cap goes up by a couple mil or Toronto buys out Murray we’ll get help on that front.

I dont believe Debrincat will be effective in the playoffs. He doesnt drive the play, he isnt hard, he isnt fast. He isnt what you spend 8 million on. Time to move on, he doesnt want to be here and he isnt a good fit.

 

[DueDiligence]

Debrincat (extended) and Chychrun > 7th and 12th overall.

I'll take Debrincat and Chychrun every time over some wild cards at 7 and 11.

I dont believe Debrincat will be effective in the playoffs. He doesnt drive the play, he isnt hard, he isnt fast. He isnt what you spend 8 million on. Time to move on, he doesnt want to be here and he isnt a good fit.

DBC plays alot harder than Mitch Marner.

 

[bert]

I'll take Debrincat and Chychrun every time over some wild cards at 7 and 11.


DBC plays alot harder than Mitch Marner.

He was no where to be found in the fast hard games. I dont know what Marner has to do with it. Debrincat at 8 million is a bad investment with the cap this team has committed to the other forwards it has right now. This team needs players that are hard to play against and good 5 on 5 he is neither of those things. If you make 8 million you have to be able to drive the play or at the very least be a hard matchup for the opposition.

This team has absolutely no prospects and no picks id take the trade back for DBC in a second.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Of course Chicago won the damn lottery when the best player to come around since McDavid is available.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

I dont believe Debrincat will be effective in the playoffs. He doesnt drive the play, he isnt hard, he isnt fast. He isnt what you spend 8 million on. Time to move on, he doesnt want to be here and he isnt a good fit.

DBC is good and if he does decide to stay I can see him getting 40 goals playing with a real center all season. Weird to say he isn't a good fit after one season. Obvious caveat to this is if he wants $8M+ in which case I'd rather get more quality depth.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Debrincat (extended) and Chychrun > 7th and 12th overall.

I'm not so sure. Cat is going to be an ovepaid LW if we sign him, and Chychrun can't stay healthy. We may very well end up regretting both moves in the future.

I'm not all that broken up about the '22 7th...that was a weak and risky draft because of covid. But that '23 12th has a lot of value.

 

[bert]

DBC is good and if he does decide to stay I can see him getting 40 goals playing with a real center all season. Weird to say he isn't a good fit after one season. Obvious caveat to this is if he wants $8M+ in which case I'd rather get more quality depth.

Pinto had 20 goals and he played with either Batherson or Giroux. The linemate excuse is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard especially for an 8 Million dollar player. He isnt a good fit because they have players like him that make way less money. Batherson and Giroux are both right handed shots that arent overly fast of physical that are creative offensively. Dropping 19 million on three players like this is not the answer. The sens are way too easy to play against Debrincat included. This team needs hard fast players that are relentless. It never made sense to trade for Debrincat if they knew they were getting Giroux.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

He was no where to be found in the fast hard games. I dont know what Marner has to do with it. Debrincat at 8 million is a bad investment with the cap this team has committed to the other forwards it has right now. This team needs players that are hard to play against and good 5 on 5 he is neither of those things. If you make 8 million you have to be able to drive the play or at the very least be a hard matchup for the opposition.

This team has absolutely no prospects and no picks id take the trade back for DBC in a second.

Even if you think DeBrincat isn't a good fit here and the team needs to move on from him, he definitely has more value than Korchinski, and probably more value than Marco Kasper or Matt Savoie. The Sens won't lose him for nothing, and if Dorion can get proper value back for DeBrincat in the event of a trade, then it will still be a positive move.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Of course Chicago won the damn lottery when the best player to come around since McDavid is available.

Be happy about that. Nowhere near the eastern conference. Not pick 1 or 2.

It's a win for us.

Plus, our pick was 12th for Chychrun? Happy. I'll take Chychrun

 

[Icelevel]

In case you are wondering wtf happened to our picks. Not to worry our high end prospects are the envy of the league,
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3! seventh rounders. We own that round. Buckle up

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Be happy about that. Nowhere near the eastern conference. Not pick 1 or 2.

It's a win for us.

Plus, our pick was 12th for Chychrun? Happy. I'll take Chychrun

I wanted him to go to the Ducks tbh.

 

[Icelevel]

I mean no. Lots of teams are built like this but they still have picks and prospects. This team needs to replenish the system its not nearly good enough for how bad this franchise has been. Cant wait for a new GM.


Debrincat at 8 million a year is a negative asset. Theyre better off recouping picks and spreading out the cap space. This team has no depth up front and is way too easy to play against -31 small easy to play against. No thanks.

Idk I think we’re pretty set up front. Add ostapchuk, Greig and Boucher to the bottom 6 next yr or in 2 yrs.

 

[bert]

Even if you think DeBrincat isn't a good fit here and the team needs to move on from him, he definitely has more value than Korchinski, and probably more value than Marco Kasper or Matt Savoie. The Sens won't lose him for nothing, and if Dorion can get proper value back for DeBrincat in the event of a trade, then it will still be a positive move.

A player walking to UFA isn't going to bring back a top 10 pick unfortunately.

Idk I think we’re pretty set up front. Add ostapchuk, Greig and Boucher to the bottom 6 next yr or in 2 yrs.

Way too young. Watch the playoffs this team needs established hard players.

 

[Icelevel]

A player walking to UFA isn't going to bring back a top 10 pick unfortunately.


Way too young. Watch the playoffs this team needs established hard players.

Yeah just sign one or two at some point.

 

[swiftwin]

words have meanings .. the individual words. You changed words to make some point that I agree with but its not the point I was discussing.

Why is it relevant if our young players are in the NHL or are prospects.

The fact that our young players are in the NHL means we had really good prospects. That's a good thing, not a bad thing.

 

[BondraTime]

Even if you think DeBrincat isn't a good fit here and the team needs to move on from him, he definitely has more value than Korchinski, and probably more value than Marco Kasper or Matt Savoie. The Sens won't lose him for nothing, and if Dorion can get proper value back for DeBrincat in the event of a trade, then it will still be a positive move.

There’s 0 chance he returns a prospect like Korchinski or Kasper.

 

[JD1]

Pinto had 20 goals and he played with either Batherson or Giroux. The linemate excuse is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard especially for an 8 Million dollar player. He isnt a good fit because they have players like him that make way less money. Batherson and Giroux are both right handed shots that arent overly fast of physical that are creative offensively. Dropping 19 million on three players like this is not the answer. The sens are way too easy to play against Debrincat included. This team needs hard fast players that are relentless. It never made sense to trade for Debrincat if they knew they were getting Giroux.

I think you're being unduly harsh on DeBrincat. He doesn't shy away from trouble. And he certainly can drive play.

That 2nd line was off all year. Sure, Pinto had 20 goals. He was also a rookie, above slot as a 2C and he struggled in his own end. I was actually a bit surprised with the struggles in his own end. I figured he'd be better there than in the offensive end, where he had only 11 assists at even strength on the year. Think about that, once every 7 or 8 games, your 2C grabs an assist on an even strength goal. That's not nearly good enough (admittedly some of that might be DeBrincat's off year shooting wise).

It'll be interesting to see what happens with him. Traded at the draft? Signed to a long term deal?

 

[GCK]

I'm not so sure. Cat is going to be an ovepaid LW if we sign him, and Chychrun can't stay healthy. We may very well end up regretting both moves in the future.

I'm not all that broken up about the '22 7th...that was a weak and risky draft because of covid. But that '23 12th has a lot of value.

I make the Chychrun trade every day. Top 4 D who can skate, has offence, size and absolutely wants to be here. I didn’t understand the Debrincat trade the minute it was made.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I make the Chychrun trade every day. Top 4 D who can skate, has offence, size and absolutely wants to be here. I didn’t understand the Debrincat trade the minute it was made.

Cat trade was a kid finally getting the keys to the candy store. Dorion's big "I can do anything!!!!!" move. Instead of getting a need, he got the biggest shiny in the window.

If Chychrun could stay healthy, I'd make the trade any day. But that is a huge if right now.