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Who is the next best prospect?

  • David Reinbacher

    Votes: 128 41.7%

  • Lane Hutson

    Votes: 156 50.8%

  • Sean Farrell

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Joshua Roy

    Votes: 3 1.0%

  • Filip Mesar

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Logan Mailloux

    Votes: 16 5.2%

  • Owen Beck

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Cayden Primeau

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Riley Kidney

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Emil Heineman

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Total voters
    307
  • Poll closed .
Bombshell11 said:
you should of put Slaf, he's most likely going to play in the AHL, he's still a project
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I personally prefer voting on age 22 or 23 and under players. Maybe age 21 and under. Something like that. The purpose of this is to track youth and the graduation creates flaws to the main purpose.

Regardless, I voted Hutson and playing by the guidelines of the thread. Hutson in his D+1 vs Reinbacher in his draft year. Tough decision

How many grade A's do we have? I like this group. It has a few grade A's and loads of B+ types trending well. Saying most teams have this is just wrong. We have both quality and quantity
 
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Mrb1p said:
If you guys think Hutson is a better prospect than Reinbacher, would you have picked him 5th overall this year?
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Good point and I was thinking about that myself but this is a age thing. Hutson just showed more in his D+1. Not fair to Reinbacher yeah but where does Slaf fall after his 1st season? Ahead of both Hutson and Reinbacher? Equal to Reinbacher?

I guess it depends on how you are voting. Who they are today or who you think they will be at age 22/23 (which is very subjective). That to me is two different conversations. We are talking about a decent range in ages between 18-21. Dobes is 22.
 
Vachon23 said:
I think Hutson is a little overrated here

I don’t see him being a #1 Dmen and I’m even not sure I see him as a futur top pair dmen

I would he surprised if Reinbacher dosen’t become a top pair Dmen
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It's the same stuff said every time we do this. Too late because it's already created but I prefer to vote on how many Generational, A+, A, B+, B, C's. There could be guidelines set on what each means

I prefer to think waives of talent vs who is ahead of who one after another. Kind like trying to debate the difference between Michkov, Reinbacher, Leonard. To me, that's a waive of talent even if I think Michkov might have the higher ceiling.

What is Hutson and Reinbacher to you? Both A's? Or is Reinbacher a A+ and Hutson is a A or B+?
 
I'm going Reinbacher. I feel like Hutson's upside is higher but Reinbachers floor is much higher than Hutson's. I feel like Reinbacher is the "safest" guy we've drafted since McDonagh (yeah I'm aware people were down on him in his d+1).

I'm going to predict Mesar as the biggest faller from last years rankings. Guy needs to have an 120 point season to redeem himself.
 
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Treb said:
I explained it in the opening post.

Kidney was ranked 12th last year and was the 8th ranked prospect remaining from the list. Engstrom was ranked 26th.
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Habs Halifax said:
I personally prefer voting on age 22 or 23 and under players. Maybe age 21 and under. Something like that. The purpose of this is to track youth and the graduation creates flaws to the main purpose.

Regardless, I voted Hutson and playing by the guidelines of the thread. Hutson in his D+1 vs Reinbacher in his draft year. Tough decision

How many grade A's do we have? I like this group. It has a few grade A's and loads of B+ types trending well. Saying most teams have this is just wrong. We have both quality and quantity
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The purpose of this is to track the prospect pool. A NHL player is not a prospect. Easiest way to classify that to avoid the most whining and is the most objective is Calder eligibility.
 
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Reinbacher add Engstrom.

Hutson is in the lead. I don't believe his defense has improved much, and I don't think most of his shaky shakes, dangles, and dekes will work against NHLers. Oh and the stats coming out of this camp places him at 5'9". He admitted as much at the scrum. The way he answered the question leads me to think he is probably a tad shorter than 5'9". I see his ceiling a little higher than Mete.

I may get blasted for that opinion, but I felt the overwhelming need to be insulted this morning.
 
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Treb said:
The purpose of this is to track the prospect pool. A NHL player is not a prospect. Easiest way to classify that to avoid the most whining and is the most objective is Calder eligibility.
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I know what the purpose is for and I voted but I don't like the graduation flaw. To me, the purpose is to track youth and I don't see the value of Slaf not being in this mix because he is so young. In fact, he's younger than Roy and others.

I know, you stated the guidelines at the beginning. I just don't see the voting matching the true value of what we are doing in the end.... which is tracking youth. Not drawing a line between Habs rushing Slaf and others who have not played NHL games.
 
Treb said:
The purpose of this is to track the prospect pool. A NHL player is not a prospect. Easiest way to classify that to avoid the most whining and is the most objective is Calder eligibility.
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Love the format as is @Treb ! Thanks so much for all the polls!! Impossible to make everyone happy I guess but be assured: a lot of us are very appreciative of these. I mean, what else is there to do all summer??
 
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Habs Icing said:
Reinbacher add Engstrom.

Hutson is in the lead. I don't believe his defense has improved much, and I don't think most of his shaky shakes, dangles, and dekes will work against NHLers. Oh and the stats coming out of this camp places him at 5'9". He admitted as much at the scrum. The way he answered the question leads me to think he is probably a tad shorter than 5'9". I see his ceiling a little higher than Mete.

I may get blasted for that opinion, but I felt the overwhelming need to be insulted this morning.
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I know right, I mean Makar’s dangle shi* doesn’t work in the NHL either right 🤣
 
I'm bit sad when looking at this list of players. I see no star player beside maybe Hutson. Offence will remain a real struggle again as I see Roy, Farrell, Beck or Mesar a middle-six players.
 
zzoo said:
I'm bit sad when looking at this list of players. I see no star player beside maybe Hutson. Offence will remain a real struggle again as I see Roy, Farrell, Beck or Mesar a middle-six players.
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The young offense is already on the team for the most part. Dach, Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky and Newhook.
 
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Kudo Shinichi said:
Hutson has a higher potential. He has the talent to become the next Makar/Fox/Hughes.
With what he's shown this past season, I think there's a decent chance he hits his ceiling.
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One doesn't prevent the other.

26Mats said:
Where someone is drafted doesn't matter.
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It matters to demonstrate that it's absolutely too subjective to put Hutson over Reinbacher right now. We need to be more objective to do a ranking like this, because it's off to a bad start.
 
Le Berge said:
People seem a bit confused by this ranking. It shouldn't be the most NHL-ready, but the one with the most value, so the one who's likely to be ultimately the best player. In that sense, Reinbacher should be an automatic No. 1, considering that all the others are much later picks, despite their fine progress since then. Yes, Hutson looks promising, but at no time he should be ranked ahead of Reinbacher at this moment, after he has just been taken 5th overall one week ago.

To add: Adam Engstrom
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It's asking who the best prospect is, not most valuable.

noun
noun: best
  1. that which is the most excellent, outstanding, or desirable.
 
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Le Berge said:
One doesn't prevent the other.



It matters to demonstrate that it's absolutely too subjective to put Hutson over Reinbacher right now. We need to be more objective to do a ranking like this, because it's off to a bad start.
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Nah, this is fine. Hutson had a historic season in the NCAA and was unreal at the world's. People are going upside here and I think that's fine.

This isn't Poehling being voted above Suzuki because WJC lol
 
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