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It’s ok, we’ll get Matthews when his 4 year contract is up, just in time when we’re a powerhouse
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This way gives him the highest earning potential by far.
Crosby in 09?
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He was
Crosby made 9m I think, but he probably was before Eichle.
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It's the term, the contract resets at 4 instead of 8 years.
Mack's contract could be top tier 2C money in 7 years lol. Probably not, but you get the gist.
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Horrible for the Leafs to only get that term.
Not to mention that contract is 250k too much.
Not to mention that contract is 250k too much.
I get the idea of the term, but MacK will be a year into his and the percentage at the start will be similar. MacK is 2 years older too so will likely regress in the latter 3ish years of his deal negating some of that savings.
On the positive of the term, the Leafs are only playing for the prime years and during their window (that I’d argue is close to closed anyway) and they won’t be stuck with Matthews mid 30s years on a rebuild.
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Because MacKinnon is better. He signed for less and for longer term. It’s just a better contract.
The difference in player is minimal. Yeah MacK is slightly better today, but in 3 years? 4? Signing for less, each year top salaries increase... pretty much expected it would be higher. The term is a double edged sword. MacK at 34 won't be the same player he is today... who knows what ~12m buys then, but entirely possible that it isn't a bargain. It isn't a given the cap skyrockets after the new CBA... plenty of revenue questions out there.
Both deals to me look like a half million to million less than what they could have gotten on the pure open market.
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Matthews is going to cash in again at likely a larger cap hit on the next contract. That’s what makes it so much worse than the MacKinnon deal.
Additionally, Toronto loses control of Matthews after 4 years. There’s risk there.
Yeah he will cash in again and 2028 may not be the worst time to walk away. He'll be heading into his 31 year old season on the precipice of a decline. Toronto's window will certainly be closed in 4 years (arguably it is closed now, certainly in 3). They won't have to keep trying to hold on with a post prime player. They can sell him at the end of the deal for a king's ransom as there will be a ton of suitors in their primes looking to add a player like him.
This will be taken as a hot take... but this is exactly what the Avs should do with Rants on his next deal. Shorter term and don't get locked into a mid 30s core that you have to try to find a way to win with. That is how you end up like Boston, Pittsburgh, LA and Washington. We see all the struggles they've had trying to hold on/retool.
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I'll happily be there to say I told you so over the coming month
. And I totally disagree with Kovalenko, strikes me as a prototypical 3rd liner. And regardless he'll be on the roster at the end of the season (barring injury)
I'll happily be there to say I told you so over the coming month
And I totally disagree with Kovalenko, strikes me as a prototypical 3rd liner. And regardless he'll be on the roster at the end of the season (barring injury)
I hope you are right on it. As things stand the Avs need a couple guys, but one would certainly be an improvement (as long as we are not talking about Holland
)Not the first or last time that people will disagree with my evaluations. I see a smaller, below average skater with poor hands and awareness who gets by on effort and tenacity. On small ice he's going to get destroyed in the neutral zone a bunch and his skating will be exposed. I have doubts tenacity will make up the difference to be a 3rd liner. He'll get a run and probably even had a few stretches of good play.... but when the tape piles up, I can't see him lasting.
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Rants won't want that. He'll be 2 years older than Matthews...he knows he's not going to get term at ~33.
Rants' current 6 year contract was designed to be followed by a Mackinnon-like 8 year extension at age 28.
Totally agree he likely won't do that. I also don't think the Avs will do that. They are a loyal team. I do think it would be the best path forward. The mid 30s years of the core are just not going to be pretty.
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There's a decent chance that Makar will pull a Matthews though. I remember specifically his agent saying that he didn't want to sign for more than 6 years because that'd hurt his future earnings.
Oh certainly could... I have some doubts it will happen, but in the end, I don't think Makar's next contract practically matters. If it is only 4 years, he'll be 32 at the end and MacK will be 35 and Rants 34... it is certainly over then unless the Avs suddenly get miraculous at drafting. If they have to re-sign Makar like Doughty and the Kings, so be it.
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Colorado 2022>>Vegas 2023
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G is superstitious. Don't trade him, else he will hex the Avs
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Regarding Matthews, you have to think if the Leafs could go back in time and sign Tavares to either a 7-year-deal or a 4-year-deal for marginally more AAV they would do the latter.
Who knows what kind of level Matthews will be at in four years. I can see the advantages for the club too. Aging curves exist and it's rare that any player avoids it entirely.
I am also interested in how this fits into the Leafs long-term plans (delusions?) to woo McDavid.
Who knows what kind of level Matthews will be at in four years. I can see the advantages for the club too. Aging curves exist and it's rare that any player avoids it entirely.
I am also interested in how this fits into the Leafs long-term plans (delusions?) to woo McDavid.
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