Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[Lebanezer]

Totally possible that I’m the one overrating Andersson! But I see a 27 year old RHD who has historically had good underlying numbers, can put up 35-40 points, and is solid defensively, all while on a sweetheart contract for two more years (ie enough time to convince him to stick around after it’s up). One of the few players who might be moved that I’d be willing to move #14 for.

Either way, you have to admit that getting Andersson for Bordeleau and Rutta would be highway robbery, no?

I would definitely take Andersson for Rutta and Bordeleau.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I would definitely take Andersson for Rutta and Bordeleau.

If he's willing to accept a trade and re-sign, absolutely. Otherwise, I'm waiting for him to hit free agency and see if he can be acquired that way.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

If he's willing to accept a trade and re-sign, absolutely. Otherwise, I'm waiting for him to hit free agency and see if he can be acquired that way.

He’s got two years left on his contract. Why does his willingness to sign factor in? I mean great if he does, but I’d give up a Rutta and Bordeleau for that.

On Bordeleau, it’s not that I don’t like him as a player. He seems to be trending in a nice direction. I just think he’s not a great fit for where Grier seems to want to take the roster.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I would definitely take Andersson for Rutta and Bordeleau.

Right, and Calgary would laugh us off the face of the planet for even suggesting it. That package is worth nearly nothing.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

He’s got two years left on his contract. Why does his willingness to sign factor in? I mean great if he does, but I’d give up a Rutta and Bordeleau for that.

On Bordeleau, it’s not that I don’t like him as a player. He seems to be trending in a nice direction. I just think he’s not a great fit for where Grier seems to want to take the roster.

I probably would as well but I'd probably just look to move him immediately if he's not willing to re-sign. We're not going to contend in the next two years. We're going to need guys that are long term options to let the team build and grow together.

 

[Hodge]

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I know a team that can give him all the minutes and PP opportunity his heart desires.

 

[TheBeard]

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I know a team that can give him all the minutes and PP opportunity his heart desires.

Hell, he can play on the PP1 and PP2 if he wants.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

If he doesnt mind only 12 powerplays on the season

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I'd allow him to play defense too. Waddya say Marty?

 

[Lebanezer]

Right, and Calgary would laugh us off the face of the planet for even suggesting it. That package is worth nearly nothing.

Right, I just don’t see Andersson and Markstrom being with worth what Calgary was getting in that trade. Markstrom might be worth a 3rd. Andersson doesn’t get 14th, Holtz, Bordeleau, and Rutta.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Right, I just don’t see Andersson and Markstrom being with worth what Calgary was getting in that trade. Markstrom might be worth a 3rd. Andersson doesn’t get 14th, Holtz, Bordeleau, and Rutta.

I think we’ll have to disagree on this. I think Andersson is easily worth #14 plus change.

Either way, we can agree that New Jersey isn’t interested in this deal.

 

[Lebanezer]

I think we’ll have to disagree on this. I think Andersson is easily worth #14 plus change.

Either way, we can agree that New Jersey isn’t interested in this deal.

You’re probably right that he’s worth 14+. I’m being overly patient and cautious about using assets on older players when the core isn’t remotely established yet. That’s skewing my perspective on Andersson’s value.

 

[Juxtaposer]

You’re probably right that he’s worth 14+. I’m being overly patient and cautious about using assets on older players when the core isn’t remotely established yet. That’s skewing my perspective on Andersson’s value.

And I totally agree with that mentality on the whole. I just also think that Andersson is a guy who can still be a high-level contributor in five years when we’re competitive, so he’s one of the few guys who are realistically available that I’d be willing to trade #14 for.

I’ve seen a ton of Bruins fans dumping on McAvoy lately… if they try to run him out of town, I’ll be first in line. Steal another maligned star out of Boston, yes please.

 

[tiburon12]

If Draisaitl did sign here would we just be the next iteration of the Leafs?

Nylander = Swedish skill forward = Eklund
Smith
Marner = 4th OA highly skilled = Smith
Matthews = 1st OA franchise savior = Celebrini
Tavares = local boy all star = Draisaitl

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

If Draisaitl did sign here would we just be the next iteration of the Leafs?

Nylander = Swedish skill forward = Eklund
Smith
Marner = 4th OA highly skilled = Smith
Matthews = 1st OA franchise savior = Celebrini
Tavares = local boy all star = Draisaitl

Draisaitl is a different kind of player than any of the Leafs. Remember when he speared Chris Tierney in the nuts!! In the playoffs! Got suspended and then came back and then owned us the rest of the series. Handshake line with a shit-eating grin on his face.

 

[tahoesharksfan]

they should just use that money to "take care" of the Comcast television contract situation

If this was an option in the market I would be looking to invest!

Seriously, aren’t we about down to two more seasons on that disaster of an agreement? We should be competitive again by then. Hasso’s seeing the end game!

 

[Shark Finn]

IMHO no point in trading for a winger. If anything, trading for a young defender makes sense.

Even better if one or two can be found in the FA. I hope Grier makes some good moves instead of forced moves.

 

[timorous me]

IMHO no point in trading for a winger. If anything, trading for a young defender makes sense.

Even better if one or two can be found in the FA. I hope Grier makes some good moves instead of forced moves.

I would be open to trading for a winger now...just not using any meaningful assets on such a player. I agree with (what seems to be) the consensus that if in a few years we're on a good trajectory, maybe competing for the playoffs, but need more scoring, that's when you go winger hunting--and the cost likely wouldn't be prohibitive if you've got a bunch of kids already developing nicely.

 

[tiburon12]

I would be open to trading for a winger now...just not using any meaningful assets on such a player. I agree with (what seems to be) the consensus that if in a few years we're on a good trajectory, maybe competing for the playoffs, but need more scoring, that's when you go winger hunting--and the cost likely wouldn't be prohibitive if you've got a bunch of kids already developing nicely.

Offer sheet Cole Perfetti

 

[Harbessix]

Pick up Kaapo Kakko on the cheap. Grier and Morehouse are familiar with the player, he’d get a good opportunity to revive his career, and Quinn is no longer coach which if im not mistaken Kakko wasn’t a huge fan of his.

 

[Gecklund]

I’m definitely on the trade for Necas train with a few conditions:
1. He’s willing to sign here for at least medium term
2. All 6 of the top dmen are gone by 14

That’s really it. I might overrate Necas a bit (like I do most canes players) but I think he’d be a great player for either of Celebrini or Smith long term. He’d be a staple in our top 6 for years to come. Basically what we hope Eklund is for us, is what I believe Necas is right now.

 

[Le Rosbeef]

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I know a team that can give him all the minutes and PP opportunity his heart desires.

I love Necas and would be thrilled to see him in SJ but I think someone will overpay for him - assets and $/term.
He's a top 6 winger on a good team. I'd be shocked if someone doesn't give him $8m+ and top line minutes, though. There are a few desperate teams who could afford him.

Not an issue next few seasons but less convinced in the second half of his contract it won't become a problem.

Stay the course, GMMG...

 

[Hodge]

I love Necas and would be thrilled to see him in SJ but I think someone will overpay for him - assets and $/term.
He's a top 6 winger on a good team. I'd be shocked if someone doesn't give him $8m+ and top line minutes, though. There are a few desperate teams who could afford him.

Not an issue next few seasons but less convinced in the second half of his contract it won't become a problem.

Stay the course, GMMG...

He's 25 years old. Even if you give him the max he'll be 33 when the contract expires. Maybe the last year of the contract is a risk, certainly not the entire back half. Who knows what the cap will be by 2032 as well.

 

[themelkman]

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I know a team that can give him all the minutes and PP opportunity his heart desires.

Sadly he has no trade protection and the sharks arent outbidding a contender for him

 

[Hodge]

Sadly he has no trade protection and the sharks arent outbidding a contender for him

But how many contenders have the cap space to sign Necas?

We have plenty of expendable assets that the Canes might value. Ferraro, 14th OA, VGK 1st, Bystedt, Edstrom, Halttunen, Cagnoni etc.