2023-24 Roster Thread #9: Spring time is upon us

[renberg]

Missed Playoffs? Check.
Missed out on Top 10 Pick? Check.
Disgruntled Skilled Players? Check.
Highest Salary going into 2024-2025 season? Check.

Danny, Keith, and Spiritual Leader are doing a bang up job so far!

I can deal with not making the POs. Didn’t expect them to do that. Not enough talent.
Picking 12th is not that bad. It’s at the edge of the second tier of talent in this draft. They’ll get a decent player there.
Every team has disgruntled players. Usually it’s over PT. Unfortunately with this club it’s because of being handled in an insulting manner by a jerk of a coach who should have been reined in by the FO and fired for his antics. With this FO accountability is only for the players.
The salary situation is probably the worst sin committed by the club over the last decade. It throws money away worse than any other club in the game. They’re blowing over $20M on Ellis, RyJo, Peterson, Atkinson, Hayes and TDA. That’s gross mismanagement.

 

[trostol]

I can deal with not making the POs. Didn’t expect them to do that. Not enough talent.
Picking 12th is not that bad. It’s at the edge of the second tier of talent in this draft. They’ll get a decent player there.
Every team has disgruntled players. Usually it’s over PT. Unfortunately with this club it’s because of being handled in an insulting manner by a jerk of a coach who should have been reined in by the FO and fired for his antics. With this FO accountability is only for the players.
The salary situation is probably the worst sin committed by the club over the last decade. It throws money away worse than any other club in the game. They’re blowing over $20M on Ellis, RyJo, Peterson, Atkinson, Hayes and TDA. That’s gross mismanagement.

nah..that's the Flyers way

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Missed Playoffs? Check.
Missed out on Top 10 Pick? Check.
Disgruntled Skilled Players? Check.
Highest Salary going into 2024-2025 season? Check.

Danny, Keith, and Spiritual Leader are doing a bang up job so far!

sure sounds like nothing has changed.

weird..

going into year 3 of a 3 year rebuild..

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

I miss hockey and the Flyers from when I was a kid. The team was so good growing up, what a joke man.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Reportedly Carolina isn’t going to resign RFA* Martin Necas and may also trade Brett Pesce’s signing rights away (UFA July 1st).

Wonder if the mad scientist Danny Briere could work out a deal with the Hurricanes for Necas and Pesce in a player for player hockey trade.

Flyers need help down the middle and Necas has been willing to play at center but has played exclusively at RW with the Canes.

Problem lays with adding salary to the Flyers maxed out cap already for the 24/25 season but placing Ellis and RyJo’s cap hits on LTIR gives the Flyers room to make an addition or two in the offseason.

 

[renberg]

Where are the Flyers with RyJo’s “injury”? Is it more than Tortorellaitis? The club can’t buy out RyJo according to the CBA. Briere may have bought more of a problem with Johansson than he thought.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Where are the Flyers with RyJo’s “injury”? Is it more than Tortorellaitis? The club can’t buy out RyJo according to the CBA. Briere may have bought more of a problem with Johansson than he thought.

Briere said that he doesn’t believe Ryan Johansen will ever play hockey with the Flyers due to injury.

Johansen will most likely end up on IR or LTIR for the 2024-25 season.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Briere said that he doesn’t believe Ryan Johansen will ever play hockey with the Flyers due to injury.

Johansen will most likely end up on IR or LTIR for the 2024-25 season.

played in every avs game to now not able to ever play.

it was also said ryjo wanted to make it work and the flyers said no. then the "injury" appears.

 

[renberg]

So there's nothing definitive with Johansen. I've read stuff regarding Tortorella and him. It's not a pretty sight with people talking behind other's back and the like. Then one can go back to Tortorella and LeCavalier and it was another mess. That was so bad that when the Lightning won the Cup, they cut Tortorella out of the victory celebration that night. In NY, with the Rangers, he sat Richards in the final game of a seven game match and lost. That got him canned with the Rags. There's something weird going on here with Tortorella and the team's top player. If it happens once, that's one thing and maybe the player is the blame. When it happens twice it bears looking into. Now that it's happened a fourth time with Couturier, it's a very disturbing pattern.
I really fear that if Michkov comes over here, Tortorella will gut him like he seems to have done with others. I really don't want him around here any more. He's too confrontational for a team with young players that need to be developed on and off of the ice. His act of accountability for others but never himself just isn't acceptable.

 

[Juicy Pop]

So they possibly get the focal point of the "rebuild" early, but they now need to hope that a 1C just pops into existence to pair with a "healthy" Couts?

Oy vey

 

[mr figgles]

So they possibly get the focal point of the "rebuild" early, but they now need to hope that a 1C just pops into existence to pair with a "healthy" Couts?

Oy vey

Those Stamkos to the Flyers rumors from a decade ago are about to come true

 

[BillDineen]

Maybe they target Tarasenko on a one year deal to help Michkov along? Get a pick at the deadline as well

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Maybe they target Tarasenko on a one year deal to help Michkov along? Get a pick at the deadline as well

The thing is that he is on a really good team, gets Florida tax bump and with possibility of Reinhart leaving in free agency Cats might just hold onto him.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Maybe they target Tarasenko on a one year deal to help Michkov along? Get a pick at the deadline as well

With what f***ing cap room?

 

[mja]

With what f***ing cap room?

Also, we're just going to ice a team full of RWs.

 

[mr figgles]

How would everyone feel about Konecny for Buchnevich? Similar cap hit, both pending UFAs, and helps the logjam at RW.

 

[ponder719]

How would everyone feel about Konecny for Buchnevich? Similar cap hit, both pending UFAs, and helps the logjam at RW.

We shouldn't be targeting players older than Konecny in a Konecny trade.

 

[trostol]

lol everyone now is trying to speed up the supposed rebuild that never happened just cause Mich is "coming over" ..fans and org have 0 patience and will be delusional thinking we can contend (not so much the last part here)

 

[wankstifier]

Where can I find contract projections for free agents--both UFAs and RFAs?

 

[LegionOfGloom]

How high of a pick do you think we could get for TK (including adds like the FLA pick or equivalents). They never even began the rebuild but doing that and walking out of this draft with a center and a defenseman and you actually have the foundation of young emerging team assuming you hit on those picks.

 

[ponder719]

How high of a pick do you think we could get for TK (including adds like the FLA pick or equivalents). They never even began the rebuild but doing that and walking out of this draft with a center and a defenseman and you actually have the foundation of young emerging team assuming you hit on those picks.

I'm not sure which teams would say yes, but the cutoff for me is a lottery pick; anything lower isn't worth it. Looking at the lottery, I could see Utah, Ottawa, New Jersey, Buffalo, and Minnesota being willing to move off their pick for a player in their prime; Utah to help flesh out the team in their inaugural year, the other four because they have designs on the playoffs.

Obviously, you go for the highest pick you can get, but I'd probably start with them and see what shakes loose, if I were DB.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I’m guessing Zamula doesn’t get a huge raise right? Buy out Atkinson and Johansen.
I would like to say find a sucker for Risto but that isn’t happening. The dude is terrible and coming off a significant injury.
But good news everyone, Ellis is only on the roster for 3 more seasons!

 

[Beef Invictus]

Highest cap hit and without really weaponizing cap space much. Incredible stuff.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Highest cap hit and without really weaponizing cap space much. Incredible stuff.

Just a tad higher than Vegas LTIRs lol, but potential is there.

1. Unload Laughton and Konecny at tdl
2. Let dead cap space in Cambo, Johansen, etc expire.
3. Profit?
4. Skip the step 3 and do the most flyers thing possible.

 

[BillDineen]

Where can I find contract projections for free agents--both UFAs and RFAs?

Evolving Hockey