Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[ChompChomp]

I wouldn't mind going after Tavares if he becomes available. He's 34 but still pretty effective. If you can do like a 3x$9m, I think he'd be great as a transitionary top 6 C.

I think it would be hilarious if, now, Tavares actually wants to come to SJ.

 

[weastern bias]

So you'd rather give a dumb contract to a declining #2/#3 defenseman than a bonafide top-line winger in his prime? Wut

Yes

We need a capable top pairing defenseman so much more than a 90 point winger, if we're gonna throw out an irresponsible contract in free agency it should be at our position of greatest need

 

[Barrie22]

I think anyone using the PPG argument when it comes to a discussion about Marner's playoff effectiveness is not being serious. In big, important moments, in crucial games, Marner frequently fails to come up short.

So does mathews, tavares, nylander

 

[OrrNumber4]

So does mathews, tavares, nylander

Tavares yes, Matthews less so, and Nylander the least.

I wouldn't mind going after Tavares if he becomes available. He's 34 but still pretty effective. If you can do like a 3x$9m, I think he'd be great as a transitionary top 6 C.

I agree, but I doubt Tavares wants to come to SJ. He should want to chase a cup somewhere...

 

[weastern bias]

This is all moot because Marner and Tavares are both definitely re-signing

Toronto is convinced that everything is going great, they're not gonna break the band up until guys are on decline and have lost all value

Now they're coming to terms with Rielly entering his Vlasic death spiral, so naturally the fans want him gone, but it's like 2 years too late to move that deal, they're just gonna keep going as constructed and keep flaming out early

 

[mogambomoroo]

It's really important MG locks up his core one year earlier than the actual signing needs to happen, because of how rapidly the cap space is rising in the next three years.

In a perfect world:

This summer:
Eklund 8x8mil

Next summer:
Celebrini 8x12mil
Smith 8x9mil (if proven)
Askarov 8x7mil

=
36 million in 4 core players with 113 million cap space by 27-28 season would a major bargain for competition.

Others:
Zetterlund 6x5.75

I think Zetts could be an important piece for keeping the 3rd line competitive and keeping the 2nd line occupied until they find someone to make it even better. That's why I had him in a bit of lower deal.

In a grand scheme of things and in this scenario:

113 million cap space:

41.75 mil used
71,25 mil available

8.0 - 12.0 - ?
? - 9.0 - ?
? - ? - 5.75
? - ? - ?

? - ?
? - ?
? - ?

7mil
?

Others:
1W: 7-8mil

2LW/2RW/3LW: ELC/Bridge/FA, could be anything between 3mil to 13mil
3C around 4-5mil is fine
4th line all around should be max 7mil

Defence:
Top 4: Around 30mil
Bottom pairing: anything below 5mil

Goaltending:
1b or backup: 3mil

It's going to need couple of bargain deals or ELC's to make it work smoothly if there is a clear window and it's important that there is a solid defence with at least one bargain deal.

 

[STL Shark]

It's really important MG locks up his core one year earlier than the actual signing needs to happen, because of how rapidly the cap space is rising in the next three years.

In a perfect world:

This summer:
Eklund 8x8mil

Next summer:
Celebrini 8x12mil
Smith 8x9mil (if proven)
Askarov 8x7mil

=
36 million in 4 core players with 113 million cap space by 27-28 season would a major bargain for competition.

Others:
Zetterlund 6x5.75

I think Zetts could be an important piece for keeping the 3rd line competitive and keeping the 2nd line occupied until they find someone to make it even better. That's why I had him in a bit of lower deal.

In a grand scheme of things and in this scenario:

113 million cap space:

41.75 mil used
71,25 mil available

8.0 - 12.0 - ?
? - 9.0 - ?
? - ? - 5.75
? - ? - ?

? - ?
? - ?
? - ?

7mil
?

Others:
1W: 7-8mil

2LW/2RW/3LW: ELC/Bridge/FA, could be anything between 3mil to 13mil
3C around 4-5mil is fine
4th line all around should be max 7mil

Defence:
Top 4: Around 30mil
Bottom pairing: anything below 5mil

Goaltending:
1b or backup: 3mil

It's going to need couple of bargain deals or ELC's to make it work smoothly if there is a clear window and it's important that there is a solid defence with at least one bargain deal.

It's not like the agents don't see the same projections as we do in making those contract demands. Whether they do the deal 7/1/26 or 7/1/27, the agents are going to be asking the same based on projections.

Still need to sign them all early just to clarify the cap position as we move into future offseasons, but we're not getting a bargain because we sign Macklin on 7/1/26 as opposed to 7/1/27.