Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[Dicdonya]

Preliminary offseason plan: trade Ferraro and futures for Byram, back up the Brinks truck for Kovacevic or Ekblad, try to sign Ehlers or Bennett but realistically settle for taking on someone like Andrew Copp as a cap dump, invest in a decent 1B to support Askarov.

Eklund-Celebrini-Toffoli
Zetterlund-Wennberg-Smith
Kovalenko-Copp-Graf/Chernyshov
Goodrow-Dellandrea-enforcer

Byram-Kovacevic
Walman-Thrun
Mukhamadullin-Liljegren

Askarov
1B

Im down with the trade for Byram, but if we win the lottery, I would personally rather try to nab Marner instead of Kov/Ekblad.

Right now our defense is the biggest issue, but getting Schaefer goes a long way to righting that ship.

In the meantime though we have basically 3 legit/developing core top 6 forwards in Eklund, Celebrini and Smith. We do not really have anyone else in the pipeline that looks like they will be a surefire top 6 forward, especially a 1st line forward. I think we need another 1st line forward to really help Celebrini out, and take some of the pressure off him.

Marner is still young enough that even a max length contract wont age poorly until maybe the last year or two depending on how his game/body ages. He has the hockey IQ to play with someone like Celebrini and I think our lineup looks more balanced with him in it. Cap is also not an issue considering how much its supposed to go up soon, and how guys like Vlasic and Couture will be off the books by the time we need to sign Celebrini and Smith.

Marner-Celebrini-Toffoli
Eklund-Smith-Zetts/??

Byram-Schaefer
Walman-Thrun
Muk-Liljegren

Askarov.

That looks better to me than having a second line anchored by Wennberg.

Now obviously who knows what chance there is that Marner would even be willing to come to SJ. I have no idea what sort of market/situation he is looking for, or if money is his main goal. Also if we lose out on the first overall and pick a high end forward instead, than yeah I agree more with your plan to go harder for Defense with our cap because then we will have another top 6/1st liner in the system.

 

[coooldude]

This is totally a gut call, but Marner feels more likely to Chicago. And honestly I am okay with that. I still don't buy Marner as a piece we really want to build the contender Grier is trying to build.

 

[pappaf2]

Not sure if what I think about Marner for a sharks target but I feel like Jumbo being a part of the org would help potentially sell him in being in SJ. He and Jumbo and Patty ended up being pretty friendly from their time with the leafs I think.

 

[Hodge]

Im down with the trade for Byram, but if we win the lottery, I would personally rather try to nab Marner instead of Kov/Ekblad.

Right now our defense is the biggest issue, but getting Schaefer goes a long way to righting that ship.

In the meantime though we have basically 3 legit/developing core top 6 forwards in Eklund, Celebrini and Smith. We do not really have anyone else in the pipeline that looks like they will be a surefire top 6 forward, especially a 1st line forward. I think we need another 1st line forward to really help Celebrini out, and take some of the pressure off him.

Marner is still young enough that even a max length contract wont age poorly until maybe the last year or two depending on how his game/body ages. He has the hockey IQ to play with someone like Celebrini and I think our lineup looks more balanced with him in it. Cap is also not an issue considering how much its supposed to go up soon, and how guys like Vlasic and Couture will be off the books by the time we need to sign Celebrini and Smith.

Marner-Celebrini-Toffoli
Eklund-Smith-Zetts/??

Byram-Schaefer
Walman-Thrun
Muk-Liljegren

Askarov.

That looks better to me than having a second line anchored by Wennberg.

Now obviously who knows what chance there is that Marner would even be willing to come to SJ. I have no idea what sort of market/situation he is looking for, or if money is his main goal. Also if we lose out on the first overall and pick a high end forward instead, than yeah I agree more with your plan to go harder for Defense with our cap because then we will have another top 6/1st liner in the system.

I'm all for throwing $100M at Marner in free agency, especially if we're lucky enough to draft Schaefer. Completely agree that he'd be a perfect fit with Macklin and we can cross the playoff choking bridge when we get there. He'll have more appealing options but maybe Thornton and Marleau can sell him on the Sharks.

 

[Jargon]

I think after the media trauma of Toronto, I can actually really see Marner coming to San Jose to be with his adoptive parents in Joe and Patty, while getting to be part of the upswing of a fun org, with a fun new core, where he won’t be skewered for everything that happens. I’ve always sort of had a feeling that he’d end up here.