Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[jarr92]

Find me the lie

I wouldn’t say he is “crushing” production, and yet he still has a good chance of winning the Calder.

 

[Sendhelplease]

If Drury wants to move on from Laf I wonder if Granlund+Smith could get that done.

Why would we do that?

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

Why would we do that?

Why on Earth would you not? I think Grier would have to add a second or something if anything.

 

[Celly4Celebrini]

Why on Earth would you not? I think Grier would have to add a second or something if anything.

id rather keep Smith and offer a better draftpick tbh. I doubt NYR is interested in Granlund anyway.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Why on Earth would you not? I think Grier would have to add a second or something if anything.

Because Smith still has a way higher ceiling than Laf.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Why on Earth would you not? I think Grier would have to add a second or something if anything.

Grier isn’t going to make Smith available for anyone on the trade market. I don’t see a reason for the Rangers to give up on Laf just after signing him for another seven years.

 

[weastern bias]

I wouldn’t say he is “crushing” production, and yet he still has a good chance of winning the Calder.

Near point per game production is absolutely crushing it for an 18 year old rookie

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

Because Smith still has a way higher ceiling than Laf.

I think history will show it won't even be close (the other way).

 

[LilLeeroy]

I think history will show it won't even be close (the other way).

Historically how many players with production similar to Smith so far as a prospect didn't end up as studs in the NHL?

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

Historically how many players with production similar to Smith so far as a prospect didn't end up as studs in the NHL?

A .41 PPG and a -17 < which is very overlooked, at almost 20? Probably quite a few busted out, but Smith's entire game is points and he certainly aint lighting it up. Factor in he's playing entirely top-9 and powerplay too.

 

[one2gamble]

I think history will show it won't even be close (the other way).

bet

 

[LilLeeroy]

A .41 PPG and a -17 < which is very overlooked, at almost 20? Probably quite a few busted out, but Smith's entire game is points and he certainly aint lighting it up. Factor in he's playing entirely top-9 and powerplay too.

So you don't think his production in the USNTDP and NCAA should be factored in at all? Over 0.5 ppg excluding his first 8 games playing 14 minutes a night with the vast majority of his production being at 5v5 is pretty good.

 

[ThePlanet]

How I see things shaking out...

Granlund + 3rd for a late 1st/equivalent prospect.
Ferraro for a 2nd and a 5th.
Ceci for a 3rd.
Sturm for a 4th.
Rutta generating no interest due to his cap hit.
Kunin gets a three year extension.

I would advocate for taking on bad contracts of similar term to boost the returns on these trades.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

A .41 PPG and a -17 < which is very overlooked, at almost 20? Probably quite a few busted out, but Smith's entire game is points and he certainly aint lighting it up. Factor in he's playing entirely top-9 and powerplay too.

He may bust out but the Sharks have plenty of time to find out and no reason to move him even if he is a future bust. The best play for the Sharks is to keep him and see how he does after an off-season to build off his experience this season and build his body more. If Smith is a multi-year project, that works for this team’s rebuild.

 

[jarr92]

Near point per game production is absolutely crushing it for an 18 year old rookie

Well yeah I mean he’s doing great. The point is Lane Hutson has a similar PPG as a dman which is objectively more impressive, but if Macklin wins it win be because he’s superior all-around. He doesn’t need to “crush” it (compared to Michkov and Hutson) as the rest of his game is better.

 

[weastern bias]

Well yeah I mean he’s doing great. The point is Lane Hutson has a similar PPG as a dman which is objectively more impressive, but if Macklin wins it win be because he’s superior all-around. He doesn’t need to “crush” it (compared to Michkov and Hutson) as the rest of his game is better.

I didn't mean it as in "crush the competition", I meant it like the way people say "he killed it", that he needed to have a very impressive rookie year in terms of simple counting stats

All to say, I never said he can't win it, just that in order to do so he would need to put up very impressive point totals, which he has, so he can

The bigger point I stand by is that I just don't care, f*** the Calder, I'm interested in team success, individual trophies don't move me

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

A .41 PPG and a -17 < which is very overlooked, at almost 20? Probably quite a few busted out, but Smith's entire game is points and he certainly aint lighting it up. Factor in he's playing entirely top-9 and powerplay too.

Kucherov's rookie season:
GP52 G9 A9 PTS 18 +3 at 20 years old on a WINNING team......

just saying.....yeah, i would not trade Will Smith, just yet.......

 

[Barrie22]

Kucherov's rookie season:
GP52 G9 A9 PTS 18 +3 at 20 years old on a WINNING team......

just saying.....yeah, i would not trade Will Smith, just yet.......

Even better, joe thornton 3 goals, 4 assists -3 in 55 games on a playoff team.