Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[mogambomoroo]

Celebrini will be his own comp in couple of years.

 

[Gecklund]

Absolutely, there is some influence of quality of competition. But not nearly enough to account for the insane discrepancy in results.

44% for Walman and Ceci in tough minutes is somewhat respectable, given that both of those guys are being forced to play over their abilities as top pairing defensemen. As a second pair, I think they would be perfectly adequate.

Realistically, I think Walman and Liljegren are quality middle pairing guys, Ceci is a good #5, Rutta is a solid #6, Thrun a decent #7, and Ferraro not an NHLer.

I wouldn’t say Ferraro isn’t an NHLer especially if you are saying Rutta is a solid 6.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I wouldn’t say Ferraro isn’t an NHLer especially if you are saying Rutta is a solid 6.

I think Rutta is better than Ferraro.

 

[LadyStanley]

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[hohosaregood]

I think Rutta is better than Ferraro.

If nothing else, I think Rutta understands his role better.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Absolutely, there is some influence of quality of competition. But not nearly enough to account for the insane discrepancy in results.

44% for Walman and Ceci in tough minutes is somewhat respectable, given that both of those guys are being forced to play over their abilities as top pairing defensemen. As a second pair, I think they would be perfectly adequate.

Realistically, I think Walman and Liljegren are quality middle pairing guys, Ceci is a good #5, Rutta is a solid #6, Thrun a decent #7, and Ferraro not an NHLer.

The Walman-Ceci tough minutes number is respectable to me because Walman has still been able to produce at a career high level even with it. If Ferraro is getting the best results with Liljegren, I suppose that's fine but it feels like we're then making it unnecessarily more difficult to get the most out of Liljegren.

 

[Juxtaposer]

If nothing else, I think Rutta understands his role better.

That's exactly why I think that. Rutta knows he's a bottom pairing stay at home guy. Ferraro thinks he's great and therefore constantly attempts to do things he can't, which makes everything worse.

 

[Grinner]

That's exactly why I think that. Rutta knows he's a bottom pairing stay at home guy. Ferraro thinks he's great and therefore constantly attempts to do things he can't, which makes everything worse.

Does he?
Might ne because he tries to do too much because there wasn't much more, coming from other the defenders the Sharks have iced, over the last few seasons.

 

[Jargon]

I’d love to see Liljegren with a mobile two-way defenseman. Hell when Muhk is back to form and up to speed, they’d be a fun pairing potentially.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

But right now I think Lilly supports Mario very well. Saves his bacon a lot of times. It's just whenever Mario gets the puck and wants to do what he wants to do all on his own, well, Lilly can't save him from that.

 

[Barrie22]

Does he?
Might ne because he tries to do too much because there wasn't much more, coming from other the defenders the Sharks have iced, over the last few seasons.

Dumbing things down and making everything you do be basic would be better then hail mailing a pass straight up the center of the ice trying to make things happen

 

[Grinner]

Dumbing things down and making everything you do be basic would be better then hail mailing a pass straight up the center of the ice trying to make things happen

It's not uncommon that athletes will try to hard
Often to the detriment of their game and the team. Perhaps that's the basis of the hustle / lockeroom presence we keep talking about here