LadyStanley
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Celebrini and Smith are not slideable as they are former NCAA players, not CHL. You forgot Dickinson who is slideable.
Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion
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Puckpedia has both Celebrini and Smith as slide-eligible because they're 18-19 year old players on an ELC. I don't believe the CBA cares where they were signed from, as long as they're the correct age.
LadyStanley
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The AHL - contracts still slide if you play there, only NHL games count for slide purposes.
Turcotte's contract slid for a year where he played exclusively in the AHL.
barriers
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Danila Klimovich's contract slid for 2 seasons while playing in the AHL. Contracts sliding is based solely on age
Let’s be honest though neither Smith nor Celebrini are sliding unless they have a season ending injury in camp.
Gecklund
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Yeah this. Contracts definitely slide in the AHL but neither of them will be in the AHL enough for it to slide without something going drastically wrong
If Smith and Celebrini both play less then 9 games, we are doomed for eternity
sharski
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Even if they somehow are so bad for 9 games that they get badly outplayed by bottom 6ers, GMMG is probably committed to playing them and have them learn on the job
Can't picture a situation where Hasso sees all these tickets and jersey sales and gives the OK for GMMG to yeet Celebrini and Smith off the NHL roster
Can't picture a situation where Hasso sees all these tickets and jersey sales and gives the OK for GMMG to yeet Celebrini and Smith off the NHL roster
LadyStanley
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At 27 and not old what is his game like. Sounds like a limited, as they write it, puck mover maybe bad in his own end. It would seem a good Dman at 27 should have them lining up.... unless his minuses out weigh his pluses. Buy I am not familiar with his game so maybe he would be a good pickup or Not.
weastern bias
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The real risk with Kylington is injury
His last 4 seasons:
2021 - 8 games played
2022 - 73 games played
2023 - 0 games played
2024 - 33 games played
He's a secondary puck moving option like you pointed out, so he has a specific usefulness and utility that not every team is necessarily looking for (we are, though), but committing any real money or especially term to him is risky because he just hasn't been able to stay healthy for any extended period of time
I'd love to take a risk on Kylington, give him 2 years, if he plays 0 games it doesn't effect our cap structure at all, but if he can manage to play the majority of the games he just might be the best power play option we have on the roster
Gecklund
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Most of that wasn’t injury though I don’t believe. I could be wrong but I believe a lot of that was mental stuff.
Yah, mental health issues for Oliwa. Might be a good pickup on a short contract as discussed above.
As anyone has ever watched Green Acres knows. Eva Gabor will drive you absolutely bonkers.
As anyone has ever watched Green Acres knows. Eva Gabor will drive you absolutely bonkers.
Sharksfan66
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Anyone interested in picking up Laine?
I wouldn't want to give up much value but if CBJ just wants to move on, he could be a good bridge until Halttunen is NHL ready...
I wonder if a deal could be had around Sturm (I like Sturm but I take the Wennberg signing to be the writing on the wall for him) + one of Bords or Gushchin.
* For reference, I'm one of those nuts that thinks the Sharks can do another 93-94/97-98 /16-17 Maple Leafs-like turnaround and make the playoffs this year, so I am actively looking to improve the team, not aiming for another top 5 pick with a move like this.
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Eggdoh
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Kylington seems like a good right shot option. I remember him being pretty good at one point, and his struggles the past few years sound like they aren't insurmountable. That article linked above also makes him sound pretty thoughtful. Not interested in Laine. I wish him all the best, but even if he returns to form, he's the type of 1-dimensional player I don't want on the Sharks. The Labanc/Hoffman trauma is still too fresh.
weastern bias
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Either way, he's been largely unavailable for 4 years, missed games are missed games
He shoots left, but I think he can play both sides
I'd definitely take a flyer on Kylington
Sharksfan66
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Heatley wasn't good at anything but shooting but looked pretty good on with Patty and Jumbo.
I haven't watched Laine much, so maybe it's not a fair comparison, but the comparison to middling talents like Labanc/Hoffman seems odd to me.
weastern bias
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I think those comparisons oversell Laine, he's legitimately terrible
He's huge but doesn't hit, he's slow but doesn't have good positioning, he has puck carrying skills but doesn't distribute well, he plays NO defense, and he isn't engaged enough in the play to be a consistent goal scoring threat
Laine has scored 40 goals once and hasn't scored 30 goals since 2019, before Covid, before the Sharks playoff drought, all of his value and reputation is built on accomplishments from half a decade ago
He's Brandon Pirri with draft pedigree, legitimately has an otherworldly shot and it is absolutely tantalizing, but he has ZERO other NHL caliber skills which prevents him from being able to capitalize on his shot and he's such a defensive liability that he can't play in your bottom 6, he's an absolute tank commander
vilpertti
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Say no more, sounds good!
Kylington is L shot, but I'd be down with taking a flyer on him as well
The Sharks don’t need anymore fringe NHL bottom paring D especially LHD. They need established legitimate NHL D preferably top 4 and RHD. Or they need young D with potential to grow into a top 4 role.
