2023-24 #2: Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Jrs., Int'l, etc.

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tade

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I believe that if Cutter will sign this season & play at least one game this season yet, his first season of the ELC will be automatically buried.

If that's true, I would let him go to World Championship (if USA has interest) and play Cutter since the 24-25 season.

To have Cutter on ELC until 2027 would be even better imo.

Yes, that's how it is. It would be indeed good, but only for the Flyers, obviously not for Gauthier. It's in his best interest to sign and play already in this season and thanks to that burry 1 year of his ELC as it will allow him to move to a bigger contract sooner.

I think this process is standard for top prospects coming from NCAA. NHL teams usually proceed like this with top NCAA prospects (eg. L. Hughes, O. Power, M. Beniers, ...). It will definitely happen with Gauthier, too.
 
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deadhead

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Phantom scoring ES:

Marody (27) 32g 5-9 14 -11
Tuomaala (21) 32g 5-9 14 +1
Laczynski (26) 27g 4-6 10 -1
Lycksell (24) 27g 6-4 10 -1
Wilson (32) 31g 6-6 12 +2
Desnoyers (22) 27g 4-7 11 -3
Avon (20) 26g 4-3 7 -5
Allison (26) 31g 5-3 8 +3
Gendron (20) 17g 4-2 6 -2

Attard (24) 29g 5-8 13 -3
Andrae (21) 23g 1-5 6 -9
Ginning (24) 32g 2-5 7 -6
Mete (25) 23g 0-4 4 -3
Grans (21) 23g 1-4 5 +1
Samson (20) 25g 0-5 5 -3
Millman (22) 9g 0-4 4 +4
 
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Phantom scoring ES:

Marody (27) 32g 5-9 14 -11
Tuomaala (21) 32g 5-9 14 +1
Laczynski (26) 27g 4-6 10 -1
Lycksell (24) 27g 6-4 10 -1
Wilson (32) 31g 6-6 12 +2
Desnoyers (22) 27g 4-7 11 -3
Avon (20) 26g 4-3 7 -5
Allison (26) 31g 5-3 8 +3
Gendron (20) 17g 4-2 6 -2

Attard (24) 29g 5-8 13 -3
Andrae (21) 23g 1-5 6 -9
Ginning (24) 32g 2-5 7 -6
Mete (25) 23g 0-4 4 -3
Grans (21) 23g 1-4 5 +1
Samson (20) 25g 0-5 5 -3
Millman (22) 9g 0-4 4 +4
Hey, welcome back!
 

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Phantom scoring ES:

Marody (27) 32g 5-9 14 -11
Tuomaala (21) 32g 5-9 14 +1
Laczynski (26) 27g 4-6 10 -1
Lycksell (24) 27g 6-4 10 -1
Wilson (32) 31g 6-6 12 +2
Desnoyers (22) 27g 4-7 11 -3
Avon (20) 26g 4-3 7 -5
Allison (26) 31g 5-3 8 +3
Gendron (20) 17g 4-2 6 -2

Attard (24) 29g 5-8 13 -3
Andrae (21) 23g 1-5 6 -9
Ginning (24) 32g 2-5 7 -6
Mete (25) 23g 0-4 4 -3
Grans (21) 23g 1-4 5 +1
Samson (20) 25g 0-5 5 -3
Millman (22) 9g 0-4 4 +4
This bunch should be performing better than this.
 

scumpup

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Tuomalaa might make it to the show. We have so much depth at wing we should be running four scoring lines honestly when Michkov comes over.
 

deadhead

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Phantoms don't have top centers, Laczynski isn't even a 1C at the AHL level, Brooks has been hurt, Marody better suited to RW and Desnoyers seems to have regressed a bit. Gardner?

Think that hurts the development of the younger wings, this is why AHL teams need to invest in a few solid AHL veterans, look at Anisimov last season, for example. And Brooks was healthy.

2022-23 ES scoring:

Foerster 66g 12-16 28
Lycksell 53g 9-21 30
Wilson 68g 13-22 35
Brink 41g 10-11 21
Willman 54g 8-11 19

Desnoyers 65g 15-18 33
Anisimov 55g 12-10 22
Brooks 54g 7-23 30
Cates 65g 9-10 19
 

FLYguy3911

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The PP splits are pretty crazy. Percentage of points on the PP:

Marody - 48.28
Tuomaala - 48.15
Laczynski - 43.48
Lycksell - 54.55
Andrae - 56.25

Anything over ~33%, especially for a forward is kind of alarming. It’s nice Tuomaala is showing signs of life, but a big role and PP production is what got him drafted where he was.
 

Curufinwe

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Tuomalaa might make it to the show. We have so much depth at wing we should be running four scoring lines honestly when Michkov comes over.
It's amazing how good he's been after struggling so much in his D+1 and +2 seasons.

I guess he had a lot of points last season, but that was in the Finnish second tier, so no one seemed too impressed.

 

deadhead

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I've seen too many slow AHL veterans rack up points on the PP to think it's a valid predictor of NHL success. More space allows guys who lack NHL jets to still look good.

That's why I focus on ES scoring, anything over 0.5 ppg is pretty good. The fall off this season is probably personnel, same HC and offensive assistant.

Tuomaala as the best ES scorer at 21, spending a chunk of the season in the bottom six, is pretty impressive. Maybe Mestis is a better league than we thought? Avon and Gendron showed enough at 20 to hope for a jump at 21. Desnoyers is disappointing.
 

trostol

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I believe that if Cutter will sign this season & play at least one game this season yet, his first season of the ELC will be automatically buried.

If that's true, I would let him go to World Championship (if USA has interest) and play Cutter since the 24-25 season.

To have Cutter on ELC until 2027 would be even better imo.
lol this aged well
 

deadhead

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Kid deserves it, left for dead, went to Mestis, did his work, then starts the season on the bottom six on the Phantoms and works his way up the lineup.

May have started his career with inflated expectations, but seems a little adversity made him a better player.
 

deadhead

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Wheeler's notes on Bonk at the WJC:

Oliver Bonk (D, Philadelphia Flyers): Bonk didn’t look like he was the youngest D on Team Canada. When others were caught out of position, he was there to bail them out. He won races back to pucks in his own zone. He settled the play down and moved it along. Was seeing the ice well as a passer inside the offensive zone. I thought he was fine in a third-pairing role, though a little lacking in ambition on the power play (he seemed to simplify it a little too much and it dulled PP2 at times). Tough break on the final goal against Czechia that will haunt him, but he should be proud of how he played for his age.

Alex Ciernik (F, Philadelphia Flyers): I thought Ciernik’s skating was noticeable on the puck before he was injured late in their third game against Norway and sidelined for the rest of the tournament.
 
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