Pre-Game Talk: 2023-2024 Habs Rookie Camp & Training Camp

[salbutera]

Josh Anderson has to be one of the most frustrating players in the NHL. How can you have such a package and not bring it every night...

If he did he’d be a $8M+ player…

 

[Habano]

Colorado won't miss Newhook, they've got Drouin now!

 

[417]

Kirby showed right off the bat in his rookie season that he was a special player.
Start at 1:20.


Have you ever seen Slafkovsky pull anything close to this? Not only is Dachs skill level higher, but so is his tangible result on the ice.

Dach is a good example that we should be patient with our players, no matter the size, Slaf is a good example of how not to develop a player and that burying your head in the sand isnt the way to go.

I can pull highlight reel goals from
Nail Yakupov’s rookie year too.

And?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I can pull highlight reel goals from
Nail Yakupov’s rookie year too.

And?

Yakupov did that and busted, slaf hasn't even done what Yakupov did.

I think the idea is to be concerned.

However, Slaf was never considered to be that skilled, just a... Unicorn. 6'4 ,220lbs winger who can fly and has a lethal shot is rare and that's why he was taken 1st overall.

 

[417]

Yakupov did that and busted, slaf hasn't even done what Yakupov did.

I think the idea is to be concerned.

However, Slaf was never considered to be that skilled, just a... Unicorn. 6'4 ,220lbs winger who can fly and has a lethal shot is rare and that's why he was taken 1st overall.

So we should be concerned with Slafkovsky because he hasn't scored a highlight reel goal yet?

 

[rickthegoon]

So we should be concerned with Slafkovsky because he hasn't scored a highlight reel goal yet?

Hey! This was my highlight of the entire 2022-2023 season!!

 

[HuGort]

How Andersson play today?

 

[Captain Mountain]

Yakupov did that and busted, slaf hasn't even done what Yakupov did.

I think the idea is to be concerned.

However, Slaf was never considered to be that skilled, just a... Unicorn. 6'4 ,220lbs winger who can fly and has a lethal shot is rare and that's why he was taken 1st overall.

and Jack Hughes was awful in his D+1 season. And Slaf had highlights too.

Most of these arguments either way are frankly stupid. Slaf was and is a project 1st OA pick from a relatively weak draft class. He was always going to take time and he hasn't even been as bad as people make him out to be. Slaf could be a dominant winger. He could flame out. He will likely fall somewhere in-between. But the way people talk about him and judge him, they should probably be just as worried about Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, etc.

It feels like people don't understand what happens in rebuild and just want to go back to being a veteran plucky underdog team that can win one or two upset rounds once or twice a decade.

 

[Jaynki]

Yakupov did that and busted, slaf hasn't even done what Yakupov did.

I think the idea is to be concerned.

However, Slaf was never considered to be that skilled, just a... Unicorn. 6'4 ,220lbs winger who can fly and has a lethal shot is rare and that's why he was taken 1st overall.

I think the idea is we should not draw any conclusion from a player D+1

 

[Hacketts]

So how did the boys play today? Anything noteworthy from la scrimmages?

 

[Mrb1p]

I can pull highlight reel goals from
Nail Yakupov’s rookie year too.

And?

Sigh, okay.

 

[Kosseca]

Part of me still want to see Slav with Monohan on a 3rd line. Slav need to earn his top 2 line time and he needs a good vet to teach him the game.

Base on training camp thus far:

CC-Suzuki-RHP
Newhook - Dach - Anderson
Slav-Monohan-Heineman
Pearson - Evan - Gally

 

[FrankMTL]

How Andersson play today?

He was flying out there with Newhook again. They looked fantastic together.

 

[417]

Sigh, okay.

If Slafkovsky scores a highlight reel goal this season, I except you to fall in line sir!

 

[Mrb1p]

If Slafkovsky scores a highlight reel goal this season, I except you to fall in line sir!

Yes its exactly what I need, one single instance of him being elite.

Kinda sad that it hasnt happened, everything is fine but we cant even have a single example of him thriving

 

[417]

Yes its exactly what I need, one single instance of him being elite.

I was clearly joking.

Kinda sad that it hasnt happened, everything is fine but we cant even have a single example of him thriving

You ain't built for a rebuild man.

 

[Bee Holder]

After two days of scrimmages, anybody in danger of losing their ice time? Who's on the hot seat???

Pezzeta is my main guess, maybe Armia could be healthy scratched too. Ylonen maybe?

 

[MasterD]

Hey! This was my highlight of the entire 2022-2023 season!!

I'm more impressed with Xhekaj getting the hit in the corner than the goal. It's just a shot most top-6 NHLers on contending teams should be able to take, he had time and space.

 

[Mrb1p]

I was clearly joking.

You ain't built for a rebuild man.

You know that me questioning the decisions they make doesnt mean I cant be patient, lol. Im patient with every single prospct, I just dont choose to blindly follow grown men because they wear the right colors.

The main point is that Slaf shouldnt be in the NHL, he should be in lower leagues, actually developping, making progress.

Im thinking the actual ones that arent made for a rebuild are the ones that need the instant gratiticatiok of seeint a prospect in the NHL when theyre not ready.

 

[417]

You know that me questioning the decisions they make doesnt mean I cant be patient, lol. Im patient with every single prospct, I just dont choose to blindly follow grown men because they wear the right colors.

The main point is that Slaf shouldnt be in the NHL, he should be in lower leagues, actually developping, making progress.

Im thinking the actual ones that arent made for a rebuild are the ones that need the instant gratiticatiok of seeint a prospect in the NHL when theyre not ready.

Fair but I disagree on if he's ready for the NHL.

I think you're looking at it through the lens of what a 1st overall pick “should “ look like but I couldn't careless where he was picked anymore.

If he looks like shit at this camp, I'll advocate for him starting in Laval.

If he shows progress from last year, I'll advocate for him starting in Montreal.

 

[The Real Timo]

Colorado won't miss Newhook, they've got Drouin now!

I can't wait for RDS coverage of every shift Drouin had for Avs. Bon petit gars...

Season is about to start and hence it isn't out of line to bring this up

 

[Mrb1p]

Fair but I disagree on if he's ready for the NHL.

I think you're looking at it through the lens of what a 1st overall pick “should “ look like but I couldn't careless where he was picked anymore.

If he looks like shit at this camp, I'll advocate for him starting in Laval.

If he shows progress from last year, I'll advocate for him starting in Montreal.

So far hes looked like his usual self.

The realisation of his true potential is probably directly linked to his development path, like 99.99% of prospects, hes a 1OA, hes an insane investment. He needs to return the most possible. Just being a good player shouldn't cut it.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Also, Matheson is such an absolute stud I think it's by far the best Kent Hughes move YET

I might take an L on this one.

I've always been a rabid Matheson hater, even in his days in Florida.

Countless "Worst D man in the game" posts.

Think he might just be a better version of Petry.

Great trade by Hughes.

 

[rickthegoon]

I'm more impressed with Xhekaj getting the hit in the corner than the goal. It's just a shot most top-6 NHLers on contending teams should be able to take, he had time and space.

Yup, I was talking about the sequence as a whole

 

[Bee Holder]

That’s what I hope to see Matty try for at least one pre-season game (based on what I’ve seen so far):

Caufield-Suzuki-RHP
Newhook-Dach-Anderson
Slafkovsky-Monahan-Roy
Pearson-Evans-Gally
HS: Armia and one of Pezz/Ylonen

let Heineman marinate a bit more with Laval and call him up if injuries stack up