2023-2024 EPL Season

[Jussi]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1792240527053648361

Might have topped that 119 had he not missed those two games.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Brennan Johnson ends the season with five goals and ten assists. He looked rough at times but that is much better production than I expected.

2nd worst XG in the PL this year.

He was good, but he has to finish or he will get the Timo Werner reputation.

 

[Savant]

 

[Savant]

D’oh

 

[hatterson]

Yessss. Just what can take this offseason to the next level. A tapping up scandal involving two front office people.

 

[Power Man]

You want to tap in , not tap up






I'll let myself out

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Might have topped that 119 had he not missed those two games.

As good as he is, something like chances/90min would probably be more indicative. He plays insane minutes, which is great for the club, but other great players on top teams will get more of a rest.

KdB, if he were healthy, for example, would play way less mins over a season than Bruno.

 

[S E P H]

Yessss. Just what can take this offseason to the next level. A tapping up scandal involving two front office people.

Granting Greenwood a full pardon and giving him the starting RW position after selling Antony on a loss?

 

[hatterson]

As good as he is, something like chances/90min would probably be more indicative. He plays insane minutes, which is great for the club, but other great players on top teams will get more of a rest.

KdB, if he were healthy, for example, would play way less mins over a season than Bruno.

KdB's stats are really the only one where /90 makes a big difference. Maddison to a lesser extent, but he's still well below Bruno either way.

Of players who were in the top 25 in chances created in both of the last two seasons (14 total players) here's what the chances look like:

Bruno - 230
Grob - 180
Odegaard - 177
Trippier - 173
Saka - 162
KdB - 152
Others
Maddison - 134
Others

Here's what it looks like on a /90 basis:

KdB - 3.74
Bruno - 3.21
Trippier - 2.79
Maddison - 2.60
Grob - 2.55
Odegaard - 2.55
couple others
Saka - 2.35
Others

The fact that he's been healthy for two seasons helps him, but also so have Saka, Odegaard, and Grob. Trippier missed a bit of time, Maddison and KdB have missed larger chunks. Over the last two seasons combined Bruno has only played a total of 186 minutes more than Odegaard, and 310 minutes more than Saka so I'm not sure the claim that if he played on a better team he'd play less minutes really holds up given that the difference in minutes between him and Odegaard and Saka is almost entirely covered (and moreso) by games the latter missed due to injury as opposed to subs or load management.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

lol this motherf***er called him Pascal Grob

 

[bluesfan94]

Pep winning manager of the season is hilarious.

KdB's stats are really the only one where /90 makes a big difference. Maddison to a lesser extent, but he's still well below Bruno either way.

Of players who were in the top 25 in chances created in both of the last two seasons (14 total players) here's what the chances look like:

Bruno - 230
Grob - 180
Odegaard - 177
Trippier - 173
Saka - 162
KdB - 152
Others
Maddison - 134
Others

Here's what it looks like on a /90 basis:

KdB - 3.74
Bruno - 3.21
Trippier - 2.79
Maddison - 2.60
Grob - 2.55
Odegaard - 2.55
couple others
Saka - 2.35
Others

The fact that he's been healthy for two seasons helps him, but also so have Saka, Odegaard, and Grob. Trippier missed a bit of time, Maddison and KdB have missed larger chunks. Over the last two seasons combined Bruno has only played a total of 186 minutes more than Odegaard, and 310 minutes more than Saka so I'm not sure the claim that if he played on a better team he'd play less minutes really holds up given that the difference in minutes between him and Odegaard and Saka is almost entirely covered (and moreso) by games the latter missed due to injury as opposed to subs or load management.

I think the one thing that might be accurate is that on a better team, the play might not need to run through him as much.

 

[hatterson]

Pep winning manager of the season is hilarious.


I think the one thing that might be accurate is that on a better team, the play might not need to run through him as much.

Oh for sure. But the point “on a better team where there’s more than 1 creative player, he wouldn’t need to do everything” is a lot different than “its just because of inflated minutes.”

lol this motherf***er called him Pascal Grob

Dunno what to tell you, it copy pasted that way and I was too lazy to fix it.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Oh for sure. But the point “on a better team where there’s more than 1 creative player, he wouldn’t need to do everything” is a lot different than “its just because of inflated minutes.”


Dunno what to tell you, it copy pasted that way and I was too lazy to fix it.

hey man that's a you problem, my job is just to be a bitch about it

 

[luiginb]

Just goes to show how underrated Trippier is around here. Just the other day I read Ben White was better than him this season lol

 

[hatterson]

This is a funny article:

Can A.I. rebuild Man United?

It's been a tough year for Erik ten Hag and Man United: just look at the Premier League table. Can we get them back on track using machine learning?

www.espn.com

They've underperformed their resources by such a degree, so consistently, that it almost seems like you'd have to actively be trying to sabotage yourself. The relative performance is so bad that I've often wondered if it's even possible to be worse. Like, if you let a teenager pick players based on ratings from the FIFA video game or you exclusively trawled Manchester United's Reddit page for tips, I'm not sure you'd do worse than an average of fifth-place over 10 years. In fact, I think you'd very likely do better.

I’m not convinced having chat-gpt be the DoF would be any worse than whatever we’re bound to get.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Just goes to show how underrated Trippier is around here. Just the other day I read Ben White was better than him this season lol

Trippier is terrible defensively. White is far superior defensively and his tan game is just 10000/10

 

[Chimaera]

This is a funny article:

Can A.I. rebuild Man United?

It's been a tough year for Erik ten Hag and Man United: just look at the Premier League table. Can we get them back on track using machine learning?

www.espn.com

I’m not convinced having chat-gpt be the DoF would be any worse than whatever we’re bound to get.

I mean... from some past purchases, sure. But overall? Might as well sim everything out with some super Football Manager program.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Nice with Ipswich back!

 

[Savant]

Just goes to show how underrated Trippier is around here. Just the other day I read Ben White was better than him this season lol

I’m taking White over Trippier honestly

So speaking of Trippier, went off injured today in a friendly (Trial for MW39 ?) between Newcastle and Tottenham that is happening for….reasons….?

I think Callum Wilson got injured as well. No idea why this game was being played

 

[luiginb]

Trippier is terrible defensively. White is far superior defensively and his tan game is just 10000/10

Trippier is average defensively, don't know where this narrative comes from. How do you explain defensive minded coaches absolutely love him?

 

[hatterson]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1793279328534344165

 

[luiginb]

I’m taking White over Trippier honestly

Not nearly much better defensively to make up for the gulf in offensive talent

 

[Savant]

Not nearly much better defensively to make up for the gulf in offensive talent

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I like White being younger and able to cover at CB. White doesn’t have the flashy offensive stats but he’s playing out of position and I think he is really good on the ball. I wonder if someone could get him out of Arsenal if they wanted to switch him back to CB

 

[luiginb]

I like White being younger and able to cover at CB. White doesn’t have the flashy offensive stats but he’s playing out of position and I think he is really good on the ball. I wonder if someone could get him out of Arsenal if they wanted to switch him back to CB

Taking into account his career heading stats are worse than Trippier's, making him a CB might be dangerous.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

7% of Manchester United's goals this season were nominated for Premier League Goal of the Season.