2023-2024 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

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Linkens Mastery

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Yeah. Very NHL video game like. Also Hanifin is not as good as Faulk according to them. I think it is just current stat and only time based.
It also shows Faulk only being marginally worse than He Who shall not be named soooooooo. I'm not saying I agree with that they are putting out overall ratings wise. But, I do enjoy reading the scouting reports.
 
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mk80

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This might be a conversation for a separate thread but I'll ask it here. What direction would we prefer the season to go in? I'm undecided but leaning toward wanting a higher pick this draft.

As of today we are about 9 games away from the halfway point of the season of 41 games. Before tonight vs Chicago we have 32 games played, since the coaching change we haven't gained much ground sitting 3 points behind Arizona for the first Wild Card spot. But 2 points separates us from Seattle and Edmonton (31 points) at being the 4th worst team in the conference. We are also 22nd in the league and those same two points are the difference between us and Seattle being 27th.
 

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Yeah. Very NHL video game like. Also Hanifin is not as good as Faulk according to them. I think it is just current stat and only time based.

It also shows Faulk only being marginally worse than He Who shall not be named soooooooo. I'm not saying I agree with that they are putting out overall ratings wise. But, I do enjoy reading the scouting reports.

Krug is rated higher than Parayko. 84 vs 83. Although Krug is listed as 2nd pair while Parayko first which is strange. Krug is also called all situations in the scouting report. That comparison and scouting report right there tells me the whole thing should be taken with a grain of salt.
 

Majorityof1

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This might be a conversation for a separate thread but I'll ask it here. What direction would we prefer the season to go in? I'm undecided but leaning toward wanting a higher pick this draft.

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Linkens Mastery

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Krug is rated higher than Parayko. 84 vs 83. Although Krug is listed as 2nd pair while Parayko first which is strange. Krug is also called all situations in the scouting report. That comparison and scouting report right there tells me the whole thing should be taken with a grain of salt.
I agree about the grain of salt. The whole rating thing tho is weird with them They have brackets so while Colt is a 83 and Krug is a 84 They aren't being graded against each other because they have Colt as a 1st pair and Krug as a 2nd. (Edit) So I see what they are going for, I'm just not sure how viable is really is in the long term if they do go long term with it. (End Edit) (Yes, I know basically just repeated what you said I just have a hard time typing stuff out from my mind without over explaining at times, idk why, sorry, please bare with me) It is definitely not a perfect solution, but, it is nice to have another website out that is at least showing some somewhat in depth reports on players.
 

Celtic Note

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I agree about the grain of salt. The whole rating thing tho is weird with them They have brackets so while Colt is a 83 and Krug is a 84 They aren't being graded against each other because they have Colt as a 1st pair and Krug as a 2nd. (Edit) So I see what they are going for, I'm just not sure how viable is really is in the long term if they do go long term with it. (End Edit) (Yes, I know basically just repeated what you said I just have a hard time typing stuff out from my mind without over explaining at times, idk why, sorry, please bare with me) It is definitely not a perfect solution, but, it is nice to have another website out that is at least showing some somewhat in depth reports on players.
It’s certainly entertaining if nothing else.
 

ezcreepin

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Krug is rated higher than Parayko. 84 vs 83. Although Krug is listed as 2nd pair while Parayko first which is strange. Krug is also called all situations in the scouting report. That comparison and scouting report right there tells me the whole thing should be taken with a grain of salt.
Well the goal is to rate comparable players across each other. So for example Doughty is an 88 P1 and Parayko is an 83 P1, but move them to the 2nd pair because you have an elite/franchise defenseman, and I bet their rank shoots up past a 90 P2. I'm not sure if their data is rating them in regards to their ice time or just the fact that the team lists them as their 1st/2nd/3rd pairing guy. As far as Krug being a 2-way defenseman goes, he's getting heavy pp time, a good amount of pk time (even if he shouldn't), and he's playing over 21 minutes a game. Whether or not I agree that's his role, that's what he is playing as. But yea I take that stat with a massive grain of salt, just a cool feature right now.
 

HighNote

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This might be a conversation for a separate thread but I'll ask it here. What direction would we prefer the season to go in? I'm undecided but leaning toward wanting a higher pick this draft.

As of today we are about 9 games away from the halfway point of the season of 41 games. Before tonight vs Chicago we have 32 games played, since the coaching change we haven't gained much ground sitting 3 points behind Arizona for the first Wild Card spot. But 2 points separates us from Seattle and Edmonton (31 points) at being the 4th worst team in the conference. We are also 22nd in the league and those same two points are the difference between us and Seattle being 27th.
I see almost no benefits to making the playoffs. I'd say there's a 10-20% chance we make it past the 1st round depending on who we play, and less than a 5% chance of making it further than the 2nd round. Our reward? Playoff revenue (who cares), playoff experience for...checks roster...Neighbours? Tucker? Hofer if Binnington is injured? And a worse draft pick.

So I guess if you want some short term entertainment, then you'd want to see some playoff games this season (what will likely amount to 4-6 games).

The only scenario I want us making the playoffs this season is if we have somehow acquired a #1 defenseman. We'd still have little chance of going anywhere in the playoffs, but we will have checked the biggest box off our to-do list. Then I could live with a 1st round pick in the 15-20 range.
 

Lord Helix

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Ratings are fun to look at, but remember when puck control and actual speed were no different be it John Scott vs. Sidney Crosby?

I ran 65 acceleration and shot accuracy essentially my entire time of playing in competitive leagues.
 

Louie the Blue

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The only scenario I want us making the playoffs this season is if we have somehow acquired a #1 defenseman. We'd still have little chance of going anywhere in the playoffs, but we will have checked the biggest box off our to-do list. Then I could live with a 1st round pick in the 15-20 range.
I respectfully disagree in acquiring a #1 D being the only way the Blues make the POs.

Binnington could, not saying he will, play at a high level of play for a 2-3 month stretch and carry the carcass of this roster to a PO spot. The 2009 Blues had no business at making the POs but had an insane second half and Chris Mason backstopping the turnaround.
 
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HighNote

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I respectfully disagree in acquiring a #1 D being the only way the Blues make the POs.

Binnington could, not saying he will, play at a high level of play for a 2-3 month stretch and carry the carcass of this roster to a PO spot. The 2009 Blues had no business at making the POs but had an insane second half and Chris Mason backstopping the turnaround.
I'm not saying that would be the only way we could make the playoffs, just that the only scenario I want us in the playoffs is if we've already acquired a #1D, because there would be less need for a top 10 pick. I'd still prefer a top 10 pick either way because there's less than 1% chance we win the Cup, but having a #1D would lessen the blow of a middling 1st round pick and a near-pointless playoffs.
 
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Thallis

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This might be a conversation for a separate thread but I'll ask it here. What direction would we prefer the season to go in? I'm undecided but leaning toward wanting a higher pick this draft.

As of today we are about 9 games away from the halfway point of the season of 41 games. Before tonight vs Chicago we have 32 games played, since the coaching change we haven't gained much ground sitting 3 points behind Arizona for the first Wild Card spot. But 2 points separates us from Seattle and Edmonton (31 points) at being the 4th worst team in the conference. We are also 22nd in the league and those same two points are the difference between us and Seattle being 27th.
Making the playoffs is outright bad for us. Playing to make the playoffs is outright bad for us. If we want to be a bubble team for the next 6 seasons, that's the way to do it.
 

Renard

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Kevin Hayes has proven very useful for the Blues He is effective on the second power play unit, and he is taking defensive zone faceoffs like Sobotka used to do for us.

He has a very long face and he looks sad because of it. But he lights up if his line scores.

This is a small piece of good news in an otherwise boring season.
 
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PocketNines

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Kevin Hayes ... is good news?

What has happened to the fan base's collective memory of competing for the top prize in the competition?
 

Xerloris

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Making the playoffs is outright bad for us. Playing to make the playoffs is outright bad for us. If we want to be a bubble team for the next 6 seasons, that's the way to do it.

Have you seen this place with a bad team? Imagine if we were buffalo bad going for high draft picks. I imagine half of you would go emo and go buy razor blades.
 
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