2022 World Junior rescheduled championship

[BertCorbeau]

Bedard is always dangerous and he’ll be a great player, but considerable strengthening up is needed.

There’s a not small chance McTavish ends up better than Zegras.

Topi was a top D at the tournament but probably not as good as Zellweger, he’s got big league vision and gaps but not the strength yet. Roni looked great out the gate but not as much in the finals.

Ducks have both McTavish and Zellweger in their system .. that's exciting for them.

 

[Nineteen67]

Does anyone know the tournament MVP, best defenceman, best forward, and tournament all star line up?

MacTavish was MVP, I think!

Not a good way to decide a hockey game that matters.

I mean it's a short tourney with no tomorrow. No idea why the IIHF won't roll with a 5 on 5 sudden death OT like the NHL playoffs.

The US Canada game in Montreal was one of the best games ever, until the shoot-out.

 

[andora]

Bedard is always dangerous and he’ll be a great player, but considerable strengthening up is needed.

There’s a not small chance McTavish ends up better than Zegras.

Topi was a top D at the tournament but probably not as good as Zellweger, he’s got big league vision and gaps but not the strength yet. Roni looked great out the gate but not as much in the finals.

One will be the guy put out to try and get the tying goal the other guy will be the one that sent out to protect a 1 goal lead

 

[Nineteen67]

Bedard is always dangerous and he’ll be a great player, but considerable strengthening up is needed.

There’s a not small chance McTavish ends up better than Zegras.

Topi was a top D at the tournament but probably not as good as Zellweger, he’s got big league vision and gaps but not the strength yet. Roni looked great out the gate but not as much in the finals.

Niemela has to work on the defensive side of D before he’ll be in the NHL. The good thing is, he has lots of time, but the quicker he can get into the AHL the better.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Niemela has to work on the defensive side of D before he’ll be in the NHL. The good thing is, he has lots of time, but the quicker he can get into the AHL the better.

His defensive game is very refined, especially for someone his age.

He needs work in his own end in the sense that literally anyone at 20 years old needs work in their end, but compared to his peers, he is near the top in terms of defensive refinement.

People forget that while his offensive game has attracted the headlines since he became a Leafs prospect and that he is only around 6'0", it was his defensive game that has really been the defining factor for him his entire career and is what got him to the Liiga at 17. He was actually seen as more of a defensive defenseman when we drafted him, and fortunately developed his offensive game enough to be a real two-way threat.

It is no different for Kokkonen too, except Kokkonen is much stronger right now and he doesn't have the offensive potential that Niemela now has.

 

[Nineteen67]

His defensive game is very refined, especially for someone his age.

He needs work in his own end in the sense that literally anyone at 20 years old needs work in their end, but compared to his peers, he is near the top in terms of defensive refinement.

People forget that while his offensive game has attracted the headlines since he became a Leafs prospect and that he is only around 6'0", it was his defensive game that has really been the defining factor for him his entire career and is what got him to the Liiga at 17. He was actually seen as more of a defensive defenseman when we drafted him, and fortunately developed his offensive game enough to be a real two-way threat.

It is no different for Kokkonen too, except Kokkonen is much stronger right now and he doesn't have the offensive potential that Niemela now has.

He was OK, but wasn't great tonight or against Sweden. Still a good asset to have.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Great game tonight.
Finland did such an amazing job to get that to O.T.
So nice to win the gold at home. Lets get some gold icing for this cake in 5 months.

 

[Mess]

What a fantastic gold medal game.

Canada reigns supreme again,

Mason McTavish what can you say about that play to save Canada.

 

[Mess]

Does anyone know the tournament MVP, best defenceman, best forward, and tournament all star line up?

Canada's McTavish named MVP of world juniors​

Canadian captain Mason McTavish was voted MVP of the 2022 World Junior Hockey Championship after he led the tournament with eight goals, nine assists, and 17 points in seven games. McTavish came up one point shy of tying the Canadian record, held by Dale McCourt (1977) and Brayden Schenn (2011).

IIHF Directorate Awards​

Wallstedt likely would've carried Sweden to the gold-medal game had he received a bit more support. He finished with tournament bests in save percentage (.940) and goals against average (1.62) in five games.

Puutio, meanwhile, finished with four goals and three assists in seven contests.

All-Star Team​

Zellweger was superb for Canada, with his 11 points leading all defensemen and ranking third among all skaters.

Andrae's four goals were the most among blue-liners and tied for third-most among all skaters. He also added four helpers.

Kemell finished second in the tournament with 12 points and also scored the game-tying goal to force overtime in the final.

Mysak captained Czechia to an improbable upset over the United States in the quarters. He racked up five goals and three assists in seven games.

 

[deprw]

Have to say that when penalties go in game like that 7 to 1 for home team referees didn't do their job good enough. It's always annoying to whine about refs, but I think would have been mentioned other way around too.

Congrats for gold! I think in overall Canada was the best team in the tournament and result confirm that.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Canada's McTavish named MVP of world juniors​

Canadian captain Mason McTavish was voted MVP of the 2022 World Junior Hockey Championship after he led the tournament with eight goals, nine assists, and 17 points in seven games. McTavish came up one point shy of tying the Canadian record, held by Dale McCourt (1977) and Brayden Schenn (2011).

IIHF Directorate Awards​

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Wallstedt likely would've carried Sweden to the gold-medal game had he received a bit more support. He finished with tournament bests in save percentage (.940) and goals against average (1.62) in five games.

Puutio, meanwhile, finished with four goals and three assists in seven contests.

All-Star Team​

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Zellweger was superb for Canada, with his 11 points leading all defensemen and ranking third among all skaters.

Andrae's four goals were the most among blue-liners and tied for third-most among all skaters. He also added four helpers.

Kemell finished second in the tournament with 12 points and also scored the game-tying goal to force overtime in the final.

Mysak captained Czechia to an improbable upset over the United States in the quarters. He racked up five goals and three assists in seven games.

I guess it's just different people voting, but I always find it odd:

''Best defenceman' was Kasper Puutio, but he didn't make the all-star team.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Have to say that when penalties go in game like that 7 to 1 for home team referees didn't do their job good enough. It's always annoying to whine about refs, but I think would have been mentioned other way around too.

Congrats for gold! I think in overall Canada was the best team in the tournament and result confirm that.

I hate complaining about reffing, especially as I've done some, but that was just bad.

Fortunately for the entertainment value, all our powerplays didn't affect the score or the outcome, but you have to wonder what a couple more Finnish PPs might have done.

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

This tournament did nothing to prove we can lose Sandin / lose Sandin in a trade for a forward. He's way ahead of Niemela both now and in potential.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

This tournament did nothing to prove we can lose Sandin / lose Sandin in a trade for a forward. He's way ahead of Niemela both now and in potential.

Since when was Niemela a consideration to replace Sandin anyways? Sandin is a LD and more offensively oriented. Other than their size and being strong puck movers, they are not really all that similar in terms of how they play.

Niemela is more similar to Liljegren... And Liljegren has been a better prospect than Sandin since the beginning. Both in terms of projectability and arguably even upside.

 

[Maplebeasts]

This tournament did nothing to prove we can lose Sandin / lose Sandin in a trade for a forward. He's way ahead of Niemela both now and in potential.

Forget his previous WJC that was actually mid season and his spectacular Liiga career. Let's worry about a short tournament in the middle of August instead. FYI he's a RHD so he's not competing with Sandin for any kind of roster spot.

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

Since when was Niemela a consideration to replace Sandin anyways? Sandin is a LD and more offensively oriented. Other than their size and being strong puck movers, they are not really all that similar in terms of how they play.

Niemela is more similar to Liljegren... And Liljegren has been a better prospect than Sandin since the beginning. Both in terms of projectability and arguably even upside.

We are on verge losing Sandin. We can keep him if we want. Why would you not consider your depth when making this decision. That's standard protocol.

Forget his previous WJC that was actually mid season and his spectacular Liiga career. Let's worry about a short tournament in the middle of August instead. FYI he's a RHD so he's not competing with Sandin for any kind of roster spot.

"This tournament did nothing to prove...". We have to make the Sandin decision right now. Why would the play of prospect depth in this tournament not be used to help the decision.............

Side doesn't matter. These are young players. It's about overall D of the future



p.s Did nothing to prove also means we gained no information to use to help right now. I didn't weigh this tournament at all.

 

[Maplebeasts]

We are on verge losing Sandin. We can keep him if we want. Why would you not consider your depth when making this decision. That's standard protocol.


"This tournament did nothing to prove...". We have to make the Sandin decision right now. Why would the play of prospect depth in this tournament not be used to help the decision.............

Side doesn't matter. These are young players. It's about overall D of the future



p.s Did nothing to prove also means we gained no information to use to help right now. I didn't weigh this tournament at all.

It's More that he's a RHD and wasn't going to make the team this year anyways. I don't really see how Niemela was ever going to be a factor in the Sandin situation.

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

It's More that he's a RHD and wasn't going to make the team this year anyways. I don't really see how Niemela was ever going to be a factor in the Sandin situation.

I don't see how the play of your young defencemen regardless what year they will be ready wouldn't help you in a situation your current best non-sign young D is holding out contract.

If you had one you were confident could replace him, you can feel better if you say no to the contract demands and traded him. So what I am basically saying is this tournament didn't do anything to help you convince yourself trading Sandin is a good option if you are in a situation where you're still debating what to do. At the current time Sandin look like better option to choose long term which is why it doesn't help you feel safer.

When I say replace I mean impact both now and long term I don't mean exact side and role replace.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

We are on verge losing Sandin.

Where do people come up with this stuff?

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

Where do people come up with this stuff?

Nice copying. I said on the verge losing him but can also keep him. I am obvious talking about the current contract situation and their options.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

We are on verge losing Sandin. We can keep him if we want. Why would you not consider your depth when making this decision. That's standard protocol.

He is not the same kind of depth though. The only place they may somewhat overlap is PP, and we have plenty of other guys who can handle that plus Niemela looked more than good there in the WJC.

The guys to really consider in terms of depth are Koster, Kral, and Kokkonen. Kral and Kokkonen especially, since they are a year or two away from the NHL whereas Koster is probably 3 or 4 years away. We could always turn to UFA as well, and maybe we get a guy who is more of another Muzzin than another Rielly.

I am less worried about replacing Sandin more than ensuring we get someone who can fill a different hole... Which effectively means getting a similar caliber center prospect in return like Hayton. We don't need wingers right now, I don't think there is a goalie or RD that really makes sense, and obviously it doesn't make too much sense to swap LD for LD because we run into the same issues.

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

He is not the same kind of depth though. The only place they may somewhat overlap is PP, and we have plenty of other guys who can handle that plus Niemela looked more than good there in the WJC.

The guys to really consider in terms of depth are Koster, Kral, and Kokkonen. Kral and Kokkonen especially, since they are a year or two away from the NHL whereas Koster is probably 3 or 4 years away. We could always turn to UFA as well, and maybe we get a guy who is more of another Muzzin than another Rielly.

I am less worried about replacing Sandin more than ensuring we get someone who can fill a different hole... Which effectively means getting a similar caliber center prospect in return like Hayton. We don't need wingers or RD right now, I don't think there is a goalie prospect that really makes sense, and obviously it doesn't make too much sense to swap LD for LD because we run into the same issues.

I think you are going too in depth past the main point.

The Sandin contract situation is happening right now live. In terms of now and even 10 year from now (If Sandin here forever depends on current situation), Niemela's play in this tournament sway me to keep Sandin. That's it.

niemela is next up as most promising after Sandin. That's why**

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I think you are going too in depth past the main point.

The Sandin contract situation is happening right now live. In terms of now and even 10 year from now (If Sandin here forever depends on current situation), Niemela's play in this tournament sway me to keep Sandin. That's it.

niemela is next up as most promising after Sandin. That's why**

What you think about Niemela's play is not overly relevant when it comes to replacing Sandin. The thing that is relevant is that they are not even on the same depth chart, and they are not going to have any overlap in terms of role outside of PP (unless Sandin learns how to PK).

Niemela could be the next Cale Makar and we are still left with a Sandin-sized hole at LD if we trade him. Just like one of our LD prospects is not going to replace Liljegren if he was going through the same problem as Sandin.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Nice copying. I said on the verge losing him but can also keep him.

So not on the verge of losing him at all. Got it.

 

[Nineteen67]

This tournament did nothing to prove we can lose Sandin / lose Sandin in a trade for a forward. He's way ahead of Niemela both now and in potential.

Niemala is years away. If he makes the NHL, Muzzin, Brodie and Giordano will all be gone by that time.