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Blue Jays GDT: 2022 v5 | Next: Mon, Jun 20 | @ CWS | 8:00pm ET/5:00pm PT | Berrios vs Lynn

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The scary thing is that this is one of the healthiest pitching staffs in MLB. Only Ryu is a significant injury, and he was terrible for a long time before getting hurt.

If a Manoah or a Romano or a couple bullpen arms go down, this will get ugly.
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Yeah it's a bit tiresome that you can count on Kikuchi and the non-leverage guys from the pen to throw tons of meatballs. We're in trouble unless Kikuchi and Richards figure out their stuff. Even Gausman has been pitching not so great lately.
 
Can't even trust Kikuchi out of the pen either. This is a guy who wilts under the slightest feeling of pressure. Imagine trying to bring him in a higher leverage situation.
 
Blitzkrug said:
Can't even trust Kikuchi out of the pen either. This is a guy who wilts under the slightest feeling of pressure. Imagine trying to bring him in a higher leverage situation.
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Yeah he is either a starter or you release him. Would be a terrible idea to have him in the pen. He doesnt throw enough strikes
 
Where do the Yankees keep finding these guys that can throw these absolutely gnarly high velo sinkers and where can I find some?

The Yankees apparently build their bullpen like I do in The Show lmao.
 
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Good to see Gurriel's power swing coming back.

He's been nearly a 30 HR/162 guy for his career to this point and was on pace for 8 HR this year before that hit.
 
Maplebeasts said:
Yeah it's a bit tiresome that you can count on Kikuchi and the non-leverage guys from the pen to throw tons of meatballs. We're in trouble unless Kikuchi and Richards figure out their stuff. Even Gausman has been pitching not so great lately.
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FO should trade for another starter and a couple bullpen arms if they want to compete with the Yankees. The Jays right now are not the better team imo. I don't feel too confident with Stripling being our #4 and our mid-relief REALLY needs some bolstering

Offence has gotten it going tho so that's good
 
Blitzkrug said:
Where do the Yankees keep finding these guys that can throw these absolutely gnarly high velo sinkers and where can I find some?

The Yankees apparently build their bullpen like I do in The Show lmao.
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Most of their pen were nothing acquisitions or cast-offs.

King: acquired with international bonus money from the Marlins for a pair of nothing prospects.
Holmes : acquired from the Pirates for a pair of sub-replacement utility infielders. He had mostly sucked with Pittsburgh
Peralta: Acquired from the Giants for bench bat Mike Tauchman. He had mostly been a fungible, replaceable middle reliever through years with the Giants and Reds
Marinaccio: 19th round pick of the Yankees in 2017
Luetge: Had several forgettable years with Seattle as a Rule 5 pick, then bounced around the minors through like 5 orgs for several years before he was signed by the Yankees
Castro: Was famously part of the Jays' package to ship out Jose Reyes and acquire Tulowitzki. Went through Colorado, Baltimore, and the Mets with up-and-down years (though rarely better than "acceptably above-average-ish"). Was acquired from the Mets by the Yankees for sub-replacement reliever Joely Rodriguez
Schmidt: The Yankees' 2017 1st round pick. Had been decent in the minors but lit up in limited big league appearances before putting it together this season
Loaisiga: Pitched a year in the Giants system after they signed him as a free agent, vanished to... somewhere for like 3 years before he was released by SF. Then caught on in the Yankee system where he was a mostly unimpressive starter with lots of short stints from year-to year and eventually transitioned into more of a swingman/pen arm.
Green: Acquired by the Yankees from Detroit for mediocre pitcher Justin Wilson in like 2016 alongside mostly-crap reliever Luis Cessa. Was mostly unremarkable until a couple years ago where he put it together.

Outside of Britton (who hasn't pitched in a year because TJ) and Chapman (who's reaching the end of his useful life as a reliever and is hurt right now), their pen is 1 failed high draft pick, 1 lottery ticket late round pick, and a bunch of unremarkable-acquisition castoffs from other orgs who suddenly flourished.

It's not total dumb luck because obviously they're doing something right in targeting these guys, but it's not like they're out there picking up pitchers with tons of shine and promise. They're doing what most teams do which is go after guys with interesting tools and seeing if they work or not.
 
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