Blue Jays GDT: 2022 v13 | PLAYOFFS: Wild Card Rd | Gm #2: Sat, Oct 8 | vs SEA | 4:00pm ET/1:00pm PT | Ray vs Gausman

[Langdon Alger]

1 pitch 1 out for Mayza.

Lets get the damn bats going!

 

[zeke]

ok vlady let's get the leadoff runner on base.

 

[Maestro84]

Those 2HBPs and the Raleigh home run are the difference of the game. Baseball is a game of inches and a flashy team like the Jays could get hurt in this situation

 

[stickty111]

Jays are becoming chokers like the Leafs

So much talent, just not good when it matters

Leafs are atleast perrenial playoff appereance champs. Jays haven't shown they are even that yet.

 

[zeke]

Manoah isn't as good against lefties.

Jarred Kelenic

 

[Maestro84]

ok vlady let's get the leadoff runner on base.

Well they did in one of the innings but then hit into DP

 

[tmlms13]

That too this is the best I’ve ever seen the young man pitch. This is what the Mariners wanted when they traded for him

Reds probably wanted Moreno if the Jays were going to get him. Don't know if he is that good, even given what he's doing tonight.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Jarred Kelenic

Fair.

 

[tmlms13]

Vlad is going to try and hit a grand slam with no one on base

 

[Blitzkrug]

Obviously not the playoff debut Manoah (or us) wanted but they all gotta start and learn somewhere.

If he pitches a second game this postseason I expect him to be better

 

[stickty111]

Reds probably wanted Moreno if the Jays were going to get him. Don't know if he is that good, even given what he's doing tonight.

Reality is you need to pay up to get great players. Jays didn't want too and it looks like a bad call. Still early though

 

[EpochLink]

Why even swing at that…come on Vladdy

 

[zeke]

swingin just keep swingin

 

[Emerica]

oof

 

[MikeK]

Obviously not the playoff debut Manoah (or us) wanted but they all gotta start and learn somewhere.

If he pitches a second game this postseason I expect him to be better

Totally. Hindsight is always 20/20, but I think it was a mistake giving him game one. Too much hype surrounding the game and it would have been better for the team to have somebody more seasoned take the mound.

 

[tmlms13]

Reality is you need to pay up to get great players. Jays didn't want too and it looks like a bad call. Still early though

But he wasn't that great, he was basically another Berrios. Who is a great pitcher but it's not like he's Sherzer or Verlander

 

[Burnie97]

Jays can't hit this guy well. I expected more. Then when they get on base... Zero clutch hits.

Jays... let's go. Wake up.

 

[TMLeafer]

Well, 3-0 or 4-0 doesn't matter with some of these swings. Not to take anything away from Castillo.

 

[EpochLink]

f***ing waste of an inning.

Hit the most bullshit balls and the Jays just give up the easiest outs.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Totally. Hindsight is always 20/20, but I think it was a mistake giving him game one. Too much hype surrounding the game and it would have been better for the team to have somebody more seasoned take the mound.

True, but at the same time guys like Manoah are made for moments like this.

He was the guy who got you here, he's the guy who leads you in.

Also starting him in a potential elimination game 2 doesn't do him any favors either so I'm not sure the Jays had a good option either way.

 

[stickty111]

But he wasn't that great, he was basically another Berrios.

Berrios was a good #2 before this season. If they we were okay paying for Berrios, they should have been okay paying for Castillo. Whatever it's done. They made their decision but will they change their TD approach if it's a short playoffs is the question.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Teo: four pitches seen total in 4 AB, four groundouts.

#efficient

 

[MikeK]

True, but at the same time guys like Manoah are made for moments like this.

He was the guy who got you here, he's the guy who leads you in.

Also starting him in a potential elimination game 2 doesn't do him any favors either so I'm not sure the Jays had a good option either way.

Definitely. Like I said, hindsight is always 20/20. Could have easily gone the other way. But it was that first inning of nerves and emotion from a young pitcher with no experience in this setting that cost the game.

 

[zeke]

 

[stickty111]

Lol