Speculation: 2022 off-season discussion

[VT]

Allegedly we interest in:

Jacob Chychrun (The Fourth Period)
Connor Garland (The Fourth Period)
Dylan Strome (The Fourth Period)
Jesse Puljujarvi (The Fourth Period)

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[Jive Pawnbroker]

So are we all going to boo McDonagh the next time he comes to Nationwide lol.

I don't care anymore about this Columbus sucks stuff. We're undergoing a rebuild and let's stick to it. Focus on the guys who want to be here vs the ones who don't.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I don’t blame the player for not wanting to come here given the circumstances— it’s the WAY that Kypreos frames it that bothers me as it just feeds the endless narrative that Columbus sucks and nobody wants to play here. That narrative is and continues to be damaging regardless if anyone wants to admit it or not.

Friedman just released his latest 32 thoughts. Said Columbus went hard after this player but said they knew it was going to be a hard sell given their rebuild but still tried anyways. Didn’t say anything about this waiver business. That is the more professional approach although that won’t stop the trolls.

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Fair. I can’t say I’m not bummed about it. I think he would have made an excellent addition to our D, not only on the ice, but off ice in a leadership position as well. Especially for guys like Boqvist, Bean, and Blankenburg

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I am actually kinda of annoyed that players would rather go anywhere else but Columbus. Perception is alive and well that Columbus sucks.

I am surprised it took this long for someone to express this directly. It was the first thing that occurred to me after reading it. Although, as I understand it, it was not "anywhere," but he did have some say in a trade destination. Still, the "oh god not Columbus" feel is certainly there.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

So are we all going to boo McDonagh the next time he comes to Nationwide lol.

I don't care anymore about this Columbus sucks stuff. We're undergoing a rebuild and let's stick to it. Focus on the guys who want to be here vs the ones who don't.

I will likely have forgotten this little episode by then but I do have a short-term desire to tell him to go f*** himself.

 

[LJ7]

McDonagh wasn't thrilled about going to Nashville either per Friedman

 

[LJ7]

Allegedly we interest in:

Jacob Chychrun (The Fourth Period)
Connor Garland (The Fourth Period)
Dylan Strome (The Fourth Period)
Jesse Puljujarvi (The Fourth Period)

Summer Trade Watch 2022 — The Fourth Period

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Puljujarvi would be a nice pickup. I'd be happy if we landed him. If we are to put Johnson at center then Puljujarvi could be a nice wing for him, or even those two on opposite wings would work. He could also be part of a solid possession 3rd line with guys like Texier, Danforth, etc

 

[Kevo22363]

I am surprised it took this long for someone to express this directly. It was the first thing that occurred to me after reading it. Although, as I understand it, it was not "anywhere," but he did have some say in a trade destination. Still, the "oh god not Columbus" feel is certainly there.

Winning is the only thing that stops this BS. If the Jackets ever do win the Cup, I want the team photo to be like what that junior goalie did and got suspended...Double Birds for everyone.

 

[CBJx614]

Allegedly we interest in:

Jacob Chychrun (The Fourth Period)
Connor Garland (The Fourth Period)
Dylan Strome (The Fourth Period)
Jesse Puljujarvi (The Fourth Period)

Summer Trade Watch 2022 — The Fourth Period

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Yes to all but Strome.

I'd prefer Garland, depending on the price we might be able to grab all 3. I'm guessing Pulju would be relatively cheap, Chychrun and Garland though...

 

[VT]

Puljujarvi would be a nice pickup. I'd be happy if we landed him. If we are to put Johnson at center then Puljujarvi could be a nice wing for him, or even those two on opposite wings would work. He could also be part of a solid possession 3rd line with guys like Texier, Danforth, etc

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[VT]

Yes to all but Strome.

I'd prefer Garland, depending on the price we might be able to grab all 3. I'm guessing Pulju would be relatively cheap, Chychrun and Garland though...

I think Puljujarvi could play with Laine. It's a question whom between them. Maybe we could try Johnson but it wouldn't be first line. The problem is neither Roslovic nor probably Sillinger (still too young) aren't the first line centers.

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[cslebn]

Trolls were already fed

 

[Xoggz22]

In defense, doesn't Jarmo have to indicate they didn't have something in place? Does collusion come into play if there is an agreement. Ultimately CBJ would not have to send anything to TBL and given their cap situation I could see teams being upset. I mean if no one claimed him that still hits the TBL in the cap nuts.

Just a thought.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Potential "what really happened":

TB considering ways to free themselves from McD's cap hit, call up a few teams to ask if they'd place a claim on him if he was waived.
Jarmo (and perhaps others) give the standard "We would claim him if we felt it was in the best interests of our club."
TB approaches McD and says you can have a say in where you go and work with us on a trade, or we can waive you and who knows where you could go, maybe Columbus.
McD's camp says let's see what kind of adeal you can find.
McD's agent or TB front office tells the story to Kypreos the way he told it.

 

[Kevo22363]

What else is he supposed to say? Of course he'll deny it, otherwise perception indeed becomes reality. Now if he can't close the deal with Laine, then perhaps there is a lot of pain in truth.

 

[Toe Pick]

What else is he supposed to say? Of course he'll deny it, otherwise perception indeed becomes reality. Now if he can't close the deal with Laine, then perhaps there is a lot of pain in truth.

I think there is truth that Jarmo kicked the tires on MacD and then was told he won’t waive his NTC for Columbus. I mean he could have easily beat what Nashville gave up.

From there who knows what really happened but I have a hard time believing Jarmo said he would then claim the guy that wouldn’t waive for his team. What possibly good could come from that? Let’s add a disgruntled vet to our room for our young guys to learn from. They aren’t Doug MacLean dumb.

 

[majormajor]

I think there is truth that Jarmo kicked the tires on MacD and then was told he won’t waive his NTC for Columbus. I mean he could have easily beat what Nashville gave up.

From there who knows what really happened but I have a hard time believing Jarmo said he would then claim the guy that wouldn’t waive for his team. What possibly good could come from that? Let’s add a disgruntled vet to our room for our young guys to learn from. They aren’t Doug MacLean dumb.

The bit about Columbus claiming him on waivers is probably made up. Jarmo wanted to trade for McDonagh (per Friedman) and made a pitch for him, but he preferred Nashville, a veteran win-now team. They weren't going to claim someone who didn't want to be there and they aren't even close to the top of the waiver claim order. They also had no reason to tell Tampa that they were committing to claim him, if they were going to claim him, which they weren't.

 

[punk_o_holic]

What else is he supposed to say? Of course he'll deny it, otherwise perception indeed becomes reality. Now if he can't close the deal with Laine, then perhaps there is a lot of pain in truth.

Kind of reminds me when Columbus apparently had a deal for Brian Campbell but he denied the trade. Can't remember who the GM was at the time but when he was asked about it, also gave the same response. 100% false.

 

[MissADD]

Given McDonagh's age, I would guess him not wanting to come to Columbus came down to Columbus being in a rebuild and Nashville being in win now mode. I bet McDonagh would have said no to Chicago and Philadelphia for the same reasons as Columbus. A vet who wants to win not wanting to go to a rebuilding team isn't new. Not everything is a negative refection on the city/origination. The history Columbus doesn't help its perception, but if a player thinks they can win,(and as a vet, win soon) they will go anywhere.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

It's funny that people will take Jarmo's word as the gospel during draft week. Maybe he's telling the truth. Maybe he's keeping a poker face. Maybe the details reported were inaccurate. Maybe Jarmo just doesn't want to confirm to every other GM in the league he is hunting for defensemen.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

It's funny that people will take Jarmo's word as the gospel during draft week. Maybe he's telling the truth. Maybe he's keeping a poker face. Maybe the details reported were inaccurate. Maybe Jarmo just doesn't want to confirm to every other GM in the league he is hunting for defensemen.

I mean, aren’t we either taking any Kypreos or Jarmo word as “gospel”? Is their relative gospel-y-ness so lopsided? Is it any less funny to take Kipper as “gospel”?

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I mean, aren’t we either taking any Kypreos or Jarmo word as “gospel”? Is their relative gospel-y-ness so lopsided? Is it any less funny to take Kipper as “gospel”?

I think anything anyone says right now has some truth to it and some inaccuracies. Kypreos report that as it was told to him Columbus had agreed to claim him if waived. Friedman reports we were in on acquiring him.

Kypreos's words were essentially at least 2nd hand information and he didn't have any sources he cited. Myabe Jarmo was telling the truth about such a deal. Maybe such a deal was discussed and not firmly agreed to. There can be a lot of gray area involved in these types of discussions and there is a lot of posturing. I'm not taking anyone's word as the gospel right now. Especially leading up to free agency and the draft.

I'd like to think Jarmo inquired and tried. We have no idea what sort of trade package was offered but it sounds safely reasonable that McDonagh would have refused to waive to come here. I'm sure we'll never know if the waivers move was truly an option or not. If a suitable trade wasn't around, I don't doubt that he could have been placed on waivers like Tyler Johnson was. Its also possible he might have gone unclaimed with 4 more year at that salary as a 33 year old.

We'll never really know if McDonagh really hates Columbus or if he just likes county music and wanted to have some sort of control where he ended up between the 2-3 options presented to him.

In any event, he didn't want to be here so I'm ready for the next option.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Hedge isn’t typically tuned in to things but I’ll leave this here

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Hedge isn’t typically tuned in to things but I’ll leave this here

makes sense and fits the mold of what Jarmo prefers. A young player with term.

As I said earlier, on to the next. Perhaps this is next and a better option.