2022 NHL Entry Draft

[Chainshot]

I just don't think Nemec will get the PP time as his shot is too weak. He's smart enough and can move the puck well enough but he lacks the weapon to garner the opposing forwards attention vice them shading to take the passing lanes

It seems unlikely that any d-man is going to be pushing Dahlin or Power out of PP1 and PP2 roles in the few years.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

He likely wouldn't get a lot of PP time here because of Dahlin and Power.

Whether it is Nemec or Jiricek, I think people need to detach themselves from needing them to put up points. The key will be to get a long term partner for Dahlin or Power 5 on 5.

Agreed but isn’t it almost criminal to pick a guy in the top 5 who you don’t even plan to have putting up points?

I’m with others who would jump for Nemec at 10, but would prob have to go with a winger like Kemell if Wright/Savoie/Cooley/Geekie are gone.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

Where does packaging up the two later R1s get us? Worst case - we assume they are 31OV & 32OV. Maybe also include our R2?

Would it be far enough up the order to grab both one of the higher tier centres along with one of the RDs? That way - everybody should be happy...

I just have a feeling Adams' won't make all three picks. It's never really worked out for teams who have done that.

 

[elchud]

Where does packaging up the two later R1s get us? Worst case - we assume they are 31OV & 32OV. Maybe also include our R2?

Would it be far enough up the order to grab both one of the higher tier centres along with one of the RDs? That way - everybody should be happy...

I just have a feeling Adams' won't make all three picks. It's never really worked out for teams who have done that.

I've been thinking about this quite a bit the past few days.

I think its a domino effect. If we are at 8 and we end up with Nemec/Jiricek/Savoie/Geekie/Cooley like we should, you try to trade up to get someone like Chesley (if we grab a C with the 1st pick) or McGroarty (if we pick a D).

If one of the 1sts is 24-26 and the other 30-32 I think that can get you to 16. McGroarty may be available then. Not sure about Chesley.

I would feel really good about a Geekie-Gaucher-Lamoureux first round, but would feel really good about Nemec-McGroarty as well

 

[Der Jaeger]

I can't say I agree, unless you think after the top 2 centers BPA is the next 2 D. I think It's extremely unfair to Jiricek with his knee injury but Nemec is doing as much as you could expect in his position and age and league. If you also take a look at the long term big picture of the Sabres it makes too much sense.

I'm going into this draft with the mindset that I won't get too attached to any certain position or prospect, but Nemec is going to be as safe as you can get for a quality RD.

Savoie would make me happy. Wright would make me happy. Nemec/Jiricek would make me happy.

I think it matters on draft position and who is gone. Drafting 4th or later I have no qualms taking Nemec if Wright, Savoie and Cooley are gone. The wingers don't excite me so would fill the need and then look for players like Mesar, Gauthier, Nazar, Kasper with our next 1st

If I’m making a top 5 BPA list, it goes like this:

Wright
Cooley
Geekie
Kemell
Savoie
Yurov

Those are my solid top 5’s (I know it’s 6, but Yurov is right there).

Sabres are picking top 5, and there’s not a lot of difference between the centers and the wings, so I go center.

As far as Jiricek and Nemec go, I don’t see either cracking this group.

Some of you mentioned need. If you draft a player, unless it’s Wright, he’s not playing in the NHL for 1-3 years. We have no idea what changes will be made. So just take BPA, and if there’s a tie, take the center.

 

[elchud]

Sabres are picking top 5, and there’s not a lot of difference between the centers and the wings, so I go center.

As far as Jiricek and Nemec go, I don’t see either cracking this group.

Some of you mentioned need. If you draft a player, unless it’s Wright, he’s not playing in the NHL for 1-3 years. We have no idea what changes will be made. So just take BPA, and if there’s a tie, take the center.

The season is going about how I expected. I think we have a much stronger 2nd half than 1st half and our roster moves will *benefit* us on-ice as opposed to be detrimental, as other non-playoff teams will be trading beneficial players. I think 6-8 more likely than 3-5.

Agree on grabbing C.

Things are more difficult of course if we are picking 6-8 where I also agree, only then does Nemec/Jiricek enter convo.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

If I’m making a top 5 BPA list, it goes like this:

Wright
Cooley
Geekie
Kemell
Savoie
Yurov

Those are my solid top 5’s (I know it’s 6, but Yurov is right there).

Sabres are picking top 5, and there’s not a lot of difference between the centers and the wings, so I go center.

As far as Jiricek and Nemec go, I don’t see either cracking this group.

Some of you mentioned need. If you draft a player, unless it’s Wright, he’s not playing in the NHL for 1-3 years. We have no idea what changes will be made. So just take BPA, and if there’s a tie, take the center.

My issue with the wings are that I've hated Kemell's game since the concussion. He's playing timid, a shadow of his former play

Yurov is meh. What do you go on, 4min a game?

Slafkovsky has tons of tools but doesn't produce much. I want him to become Raantanan but man he just plays the perimeter. Are you drafting Pulujarvi and hoping for more

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Anyone like Nazar ? Seems to have some Tuch in his game.

Lambert top 10 ?

Cooley over Geekie right now right ?

 

[Chainshot]

Anyone like Nazar ? Seems to have some Tuch in his game.

Lambert top 10 ?

Cooley over Geekie right now right ?

Cooley is probably my #2 after getting some views. Lambert... maybe 10. Geekie in the 6-8 range.

I like Nazar - there is a lot to like about high-energy guys. He pops out there in terms of speed, his feet are always going.

 

[Chainshot]

Bob's scout-influenced mid-terms are out:

Wright leaves door open atop TSN's mid-season draft rankings - TSN.ca

Wright
Cooley
Kemell
Savoie
Slafkovsky

 

[Der Jaeger]

My issue with the wings are that I've hated Kemell's game since the concussion. He's playing timid, a shadow of his former play

Yurov is meh. What do you go on, 4min a game?

Slafkovsky has tons of tools but doesn't produce much. I want him to become Raantanan but man he just plays the perimeter. Are you drafting Pulujarvi and hoping for more

I saw Yurov at last year’s U18s and he played in the U20s before they were cancelled. He gets a regular shift in the MHL.

Slafkovsky reminds me of Mantha as a prospect. Insane skills in a big body, but he doesn’t go to the hard areas..

 

[Der Jaeger]

Anyone like Nazar ? Seems to have some Tuch in his game.

Lambert top 10 ?

Cooley over Geekie right now right ?

I’ve got Cooley #2. He plays at Barzal, Point speed, but he’s harder on the puck and plays better in the defensive zone.

Nazar is similar to Cooley. Energizer bunny.

Geekie is a big, high IQ center. Reminds me a bit of Brayden Schenn.

Savoie is great with the puck but leaves a lot out there when he doesn’t have it.

Jiricek is low IQ in his own zone. He’s Risto 2.0.

Nemec and Salomonsson are very similar to me. When they fully develop, you get Chris Tanev: super safe and reliable player with IQ off the charts. Not going to contribute a ton offensively, but also never going to hurt you.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I saw Yurov at last year’s U18s and he played in the U20s before they were cancelled. He gets a regular shift in the MHL.

Slafkovsky reminds me of Mantha as a prospect. Insane skills in a big body, but he doesn’t go to the hard areas..

Good comparison on Slafkovsky.

What’s Yurov like as a player iyo? I’ve read a bunch of profiles on him but they differ a lot, and I can’t find much to watch.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

My issue with the wings are that I've hated Kemell's game since the concussion. He's playing timid, a shadow of his former play

Yurov is meh. What do you go on, 4min a game?

Slafkovsky has tons of tools but doesn't produce much. I want him to become Raantanan but man he just plays the perimeter. Are you drafting Pulujarvi and hoping for more

Was it a really bad injury, was the hit bad and was he out for a while?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Bob's scout-influenced mid-terms are out:

Wright leaves door open atop TSN's mid-season draft rankings - TSN.ca

Wright
Cooley
Kemell
Savoie
Slafkovsky

This puts Jack Hughes #2 within reach with the second 1st, which I like.

 

[Zman5778]

Bob's scout-influenced mid-terms are out:

Wright leaves door open atop TSN's mid-season draft rankings - TSN.ca

Looking at this list.......the idea of taking Lamoreux and Salomonsson at the bottom of the 1st is leaving me drooling a bit. Two right-handed defense-first guys who aren't incompetent in their own zone to go with Dahlin and Power. I mean.........just thinking about this in 5 years:

Dahlin-Lamoreux
Power-Salomonsson
Samuelsson-Jokiharju

Has me salivating.

Take Geekie with our first pick?

Man that'd be an excellent draft.

 

[Chainshot]

I have a bit of an odd question

How deep is this draft in terms of players ready to step into the NHL next season? I know it’s deep overall. But how many are ready to step right in?

A good thread to poke around in is the overager draft thread on the prospect board:

Top 10 Overagers Eligible for the 2022 NHL Draft

Anyone who turns 20 before Dec. 31st of 2022 would be eligible to step into the AHL.

I'd be interested in seeing more of this guy - Lucas Edmonds at eliteprospects.com

His D+1 year, he was excellent for Vaxjo's junior team (Cederqvist was there for three games) and then had a down D+2.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Was it a really bad injury, was the hit bad and was he out for a while?

Head down and was blown up, missed a few weeks. Before that he was fearless and initiated contact, now he circles away

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Head down and was blown up, missed a few weeks. Before that he was fearless and initiated contact, now he circles away

Oof

 

[Chainshot]

This puts Jack Hughes #2 within reach with the second 1st, which I like.

Buffalo can slowly accumulate all the sons of current GM's into their prospect pool.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

For those of you who get TSN, the Greyhounds play the Storm on it tomorrow. Draft eligible players for the Soo are: McConnell-Barker, Kudravytsev, Toms, Ivanov, and Schenkel (probably won’t play as he’s the organizational 3rd now), and Karabela, Poitras, and Zhilkin for the Storm.

I’ve been banging the drum for McConnell-Barker with one of the late 1sts or the 2nd, and Schenkel with our 7th.

 

[Chainshot]

Oof

Not the best quality but it was this:

 

[Chainshot]

For those of you who get TSN, the Greyhounds play the Storm on it tomorrow. Draft eligible players for the Soo are: McConnell-Barker, Kudravytsev, Toms, Ivanov, and Schenkel (probably won’t play as he’s the organizational 3rd now), and Karabela, Poitras, and Zhilkin for the Storm.

I’ve been banging the drum for McConnell-Barker with one of the late 1sts or the 2nd, and Schenkel with our 7th.

McConnell-Barker and Poitras both seem to be sliding in a lot of rankings.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

McConnell-Barker and Poitras both seem to be sliding in a lot of rankings.

McConnell-Barker gets dinged because he’s his teams 3LW, instead of 2C. His team is deep, and after the OHL trade deadline passed, they got deeper. And the team could get even deeper if McGroarty, Lutz and Malik either report to the team or come back, in Malik’s case.

The WJC being canceled didn’t help him any, as he got moved up then had to move back down once Dickinson came back.

I should add Tye Kartye of the Greyhounds is a free agent. He has 27 goals in 33 games, leading the league in goals. Although I expect Othmann to have this title by seasons end.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

This puts Jack Hughes #2 within reach with the second 1st, which I like.

If there is someone they really want (ie Peterka) they could move up again