Draft 2022 NHL Draft and Undrafted Free Agents Thread

[GAGLine]

I know it is unlikely, but who could the Rangers use as bait to move into geting a 1st round pick back?

Maybe a team would be willing to trade a 1st for Lundkvist. Other than that, I don't see any players we would be willing to move that would bring back a 1st. If Winnipeg opts to take our 2023 2nd rounder instead of St. Louis' 2022 2nd round, then we could potentially use both 2nd rounders to move into the 1st round, though that seems unlikely as both picks are late in the 2nd. The extra pick probably isn't worth dropping back that far.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

Clark (was going anyway)
Rich Brown
Daniel Dore
Oto Hascak

Rangers scouting department overhaul, Gordie Clark out

Thanks; I was curious.

 

[bhamill]

Nils could potentially get you a mid 1st. The potential for a first pairing dman is evident and he's almost definitely in the NHL next year as opposed to whomever gets picked being probably at least a year or two away. I know people/teams (over)value draft picks, but the odds of getting a Nils at 16-25 are not great. If the NYR identify a C mid 1st that they think will hit or is a good value at that pick, I would not be opposed to them making that move, since it appears Nils is bound for elsewhere and its a position of strength dealt to address a position of weakness.

 

[JimmyG89]

If Winnipeg opts to take our 2023 2nd rounder instead of St. Louis' 2022 2nd round, then we could potentially use both 2nd rounders to move into the 1st round, though that seems unlikely as both picks are late in the 2nd. The extra pick probably isn't worth dropping back that far.

Do we know when Winnipeg needs to let the the Rangers know of their decision? I could see them going either way. They have 2 1sts this year and no 2nd, but also have no 2nd in 2023 with only one 1st.

 

[shnagle]

Anyone happen to know when Winnipeg has to choose which second round pick(22' or 23') of ours they intend to use? Is their a pre draft day deadline or can they wait until the pick is on the clock to see if there is a player they covet?

 

[GAGLine]

Do we know when Winnipeg needs to let the the Rangers know of their decision? I could see them going either way. They have 2 1sts this year and no 2nd, but also have no 2nd in 2023 with only one 1st.

Anyone happen to know when Winnipeg has to choose which second round pick(22' or 23') of ours they intend to use? Is their a pre draft day deadline or can they wait until the pick is on the clock to see if there is a player they covet?

I haven't been able to find anything about it. My assumption would be no later than 5pm the day before the draft. 5pm EST is usually the cut off time for most things and I can't see the NHL allowing teams to wait until the pick is due to decide. It's also possible that they have to decide within a certain amount of time after the SCF ends. I guess we'll know when we know.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Anyone have an opinion on Noah Warren? Is he still there when we pick at 63?

 

[eco's bones]

Nils could potentially get you a mid 1st. The potential for a first pairing dman is evident and he's almost definitely in the NHL next year as opposed to whomever gets picked being probably at least a year or two away. I know people/teams (over)value draft picks, but the odds of getting a Nils at 16-25 are not great. If the NYR identify a C mid 1st that they think will hit or is a good value at that pick, I would not be opposed to them making that move, since it appears Nils is bound for elsewhere and its a position of strength dealt to address a position of weakness.

The most likely D who might make it for us next year are Jones and Lundkvist though I don't think either is any kind of lock and it's one thing to make the team out of training camp and another to be with the team at the end of the year. I think right now Jones has the edge 1) more of an opening on LD than RD and Jones is a left shot and 2) he had a better season than Lundkvist who didn't play all that well with the Wolfpack. Maybe Nils though needed a year to adapt better to North American rinks. To earn a RD spot he's going to have to beat out Braden Schneider and the likelihood of that off of this past season IMO is low. The likelihood of our having all of Fox, Jones and Lundkvist at the same time is low too. Too many smaller offensive minded D isn't IMO going to work.

A team only has so many goals in it---dependent more on forwards who can finish plays and power play time than on puck moving D. Fox is going to be the No. 1 here and Jones or Nils if they do make the team are at best going to take the leftovers---keeping in mind Trouba and/or K'Andre developing his offensive game (which I kind of expect him to do if given more opportunity). I guess another way of putting it is we don't really have a big issue with offense from our blue line with our current lineup and it should get better. IMO we need more to cut down on the chances on Igor. I also think with our current D that will get better too.

Think like many here that Nils and/or Jones will get moved. What we get for either of them I don't know but I think a later 1st or early 2nd is more likely if we go the draft pick route.

 

[bhamill]

The most likely D who might make it for us next year are Jones and Lundkvist though I don't think either is any kind of lock and it's one thing to make the team out of training camp and another to be with the team at the end of the year. I think right now Jones has the edge 1) more of an opening on LD than RD and Jones is a left shot and 2) he had a better season than Lundkvist who didn't play all that well with the Wolfpack. Maybe Nils though needed a year to adapt better to North American rinks. To earn a RD spot he's going to have to beat out Braden Schneider and the likelihood of that off of this past season IMO is low. The likelihood of our having all of Fox, Jones and Lundkvist at the same time is low too. Too many smaller offensive minded D isn't IMO going to work.

A team only has so many goals in it---dependent more on forwards who can finish plays and power play time than on puck moving D. Fox is going to be the No. 1 here and Jones or Nils if they do make the team are at best going to take the leftovers---keeping in mind Trouba and/or K'Andre developing his offensive game (which I kind of expect him to do if given more opportunity). I guess another way of putting it is we don't really have a big issue with offense from our blue line with our current lineup and it should get better. IMO we need more to cut down on the chances on Igor. I also think with our current D that will get better too.

Think like many here that Nils and/or Jones will get moved. What we get for either of them I don't know but I think a later 1st or early 2nd is more likely if we go the draft pick route.

Agree with most of that. When I said Nils is almost definitely in the NHL next year, I meant with his new team. I don't think he makes it through the off season as a NYR. And I think Nils can get you a better pick as he's been held in higher regard for longer by scouts and because he IS a former 1st rounder.

 

[bobbop]

If Nils can bring back a mid first, I’m all over that.

 

[Entrancemperium]

If Nils can bring back a mid first, I’m all over that.

I'm not.

What kind of talent can he bring back that can play right now? The window is opening. Unless something goes terribly wrong next year and we end up where we can pick Bedard or Michkov I say the first round picks are in play for immediate help.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Nils could potentially get you a mid 1st. The potential for a first pairing dman is evident and he's almost definitely in the NHL next year as opposed to whomever gets picked being probably at least a year or two away. I know people/teams (over)value draft picks, but the odds of getting a Nils at 16-25 are not great. If the NYR identify a C mid 1st that they think will hit or is a good value at that pick, I would not be opposed to them making that move, since it appears Nils is bound for elsewhere and its a position of strength dealt to address a position of weakness.

Yeah it totally depends. St Louis did this in 2010 to pick Tarasenko, sending David Rundblad to Ottawa for the pick.

Not sure if this is the most realistic utilization of Nils for a team that is looking to "win now", but its not a bad idea.

 

[Lion Hound]

Maybe a team would be willing to trade a 1st for Lundkvist. Other than that, I don't see any players we would be willing to move that would bring back a 1st. If Winnipeg opts to take our 2023 2nd rounder instead of St. Louis' 2022 2nd round, then we could potentially use both 2nd rounders to move into the 1st round, though that seems unlikely as both picks are late in the 2nd. The extra pick probably isn't worth dropping back that far.

From a Value standpoint he is worth it. Closer to the NHL the draft eligibles coming out. Got more experience, and is more mature.

You would have to think anywhere from 15-25. Makes sense due to the logjam. Team doesnt have a pick in this 1st round. Makes up for that, and restocks the cupboard.

 

[B17 Apricots]

That's the route I go. Like you guys have said, it's not that Nils won't be a good player.. he's got a phenomenal shot on the PP, he's just never going to see that role here. Schneider looks like the guy to fill Troubas shoes down the line. Lundkvist is the odd man out here.

That Pronman mock draft yesterday had Rutger McGroarty at 21, the "anonymous NHL source" made that pick. They have him down as a winger but he's traditionally a center. We'll see where he sticks in the NHL. For years now we've had a problem with a lack of 2 way ability at center. That could address that down the line. Tons of upside.

Bunch of centers in that range. They had the Czech kid Kulich the pick after at 22, Ostlund at 25.. Luca Del Bel Belluz at 28, that's another center with a good 2 way game. Good frame to build on. From what I gathered the knock on him is his skating and strength. At one point he was quietly trending as a possible star, being ranked on lists within the top 15 and ultimately finished 8th on NHLs Central Scouting North America. Shakey end to the season and a poor playoffs dropped him way down people's lists. Went from a sure fire 1st rounder to a possible 2nd rounder.

Craig Button just put Nazar at 25 and Geekie at 29. Maybe a bit unlikely but regardless.. theres going to be some good centers late in the first as well as the 2nd. Even if you can't get a first I'd look to move up our 2nd rounder

 

[RangersFan1994]

C Luke Kunin and 17th overall to Rangers
Nils Lundkvist and Matthew Robertson to the Predators?

Rangers get a physical 3rd line C with upside and into the 1st round.
Predator get depth on defense.

I would love Tanner Jeannot but I bet he is untouchable and lets hope Will Cuylle has that upside for the Rangers down the road.

 

[CommaSynapse]

Two guys projected for late in the first that catch my attention:

Bryce McConnell-Barker was one that popped up as having both hands and speed, but needing to develop more consistency. Danil Zhilkin is another with IQ, hands, and speed, but his decision-making is still developing.

Looks like they dropped a little bit in the NHL's rankings due to that production, but that could be a worthwhile gamble to jump in at the end of the 1st or early 2nd to snag one.

 

[bhamill]

Yeah it totally depends. St Louis did this in 2010 to pick Tarasenko, sending David Rundblad to Ottawa for the pick.

Not sure if this is the most realistic utilization of Nils for a team that is looking to "win now", but its not a bad idea.

Fair enough. They may well want something more immediate, more ready to contribute. But then again if they want to win now AND later got to keep the pipeline flowing.

 

[RangersFan1994]

How about CT kid Stauss Mann undrafted UFA checks the boxes as a future Ranger

Gonna be 24 this summer but worth a look.

Strauss Mann Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Strauss Mann, a hockey player from Greenwich, CT born Aug 18 1998 who was active from 2017 to 2024.

www.hockeydb.com

with goalies being UFA in Hartford and lack of depth might as well try to find the next Talbot/Georgiev as undrafted goalies go.

 

[McRanger92]

How about CT kid Stauss Mann undrafted UFA checks the boxes as a future Ranger

Gonna be 24 this summer but worth a look.

Strauss Mann Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Strauss Mann, a hockey player from Greenwich, CT born Aug 18 1998 who was active from 2017 to 2024.

www.hockeydb.com

with goalies being UFA in Hartford and lack of depth might as well try to find the next Talbot/Georgiev as undrafted goalies go.

Signed with San Jose a few months ago

 

[QJL]

Anyone have an opinion on Noah Warren? Is he still there when we pick at 63?

Absolutely love this player. Better chance of going in the top 20 than being there after 40 in my opinion. I expect him to go in the 20s. He can skate, he’s mean, he’s huge, and he has shown signs of developing his offensive game this season. He is a candidate to go way higher than people expect.

 

[B17 Apricots]

Who knows what's going to happen with Lundkvist, even with him in the fold our right side in Hartford may look a little ugly. Hopefully they target some of the NCAA FAs left... Jake Livingstone, Zach Metsa, etc..

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Buffalo Sabres 2022 Draft Show.
Part 1

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

How about CT kid Stauss Mann undrafted UFA checks the boxes as a future Ranger

Gonna be 24 this summer but worth a look.

Strauss Mann Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Strauss Mann, a hockey player from Greenwich, CT born Aug 18 1998 who was active from 2017 to 2024.

www.hockeydb.com

with goalies being UFA in Hartford and lack of depth might as well try to find the next Talbot/Georgiev as undrafted goalies go.

HockeyDB is a very outdated website. Sure, the info is accurate but it's very limited. Switch to Elite Prospects, and you can see much more. It also shows if their rights belong to an NHL team etc.

Strauss Mann - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Strauss Mann, 1998-08-18 Greenwich, CT, USA USA. Most recently in the undefined with Augsburger Panther. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[Synergy27]

Any thoughts on this kid?

 

[Clark Kellogg]

If you have the time, here is a pretty good watch about Sean Durzi’s journey from aaa to the NHL.