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The way Poile takes it in stride it makes you think more guys react that way.
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The way Poile takes it in stride it makes you think more guys react that way.
Tufted Titmouse
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Hell of a player in Portland. Glad to see him get another shot to lock in his career in the NHL.
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ACC1224
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He was tearing up when he found out he made the team.
I don’t think this is much of a limiting factor. We have the most waiver claims over a multi year period so we probably lose a contract before the start of the season. And if not it isn’t hard to move someone down the depth chart for little to no return.
I know everyone loves Matthews-Marner together (I also love this tandem) but Tavares literally has no chemistry with anyone except Marner. Bunting also seems to have chemistry with Marner and Bunting profiles as a good winger to play with Tavares. So breaking up Matthews-Marner would suck but we will get more out of both Tavares and Nylander by breaking them up. Also Matthews and Marner are both good enough to run there own line.
Fully healthy:
Robertson-Matthews-Nylander
--Bunting-Tavares-Marner
Engvall-Holmberg-Jarnkrok
Aston-Reese-Kampf-Aube-Kubel
Kerfoot moved for cap space at some point.
Fully healthy:
Robertson-Matthews-Nylander
--Bunting-Tavares-Marner
Engvall-Holmberg-Jarnkrok
Aston-Reese-Kampf-Aube-Kubel
Kerfoot moved for cap space at some point.
How about trading Muzzin, sliding Gio to that spot and Holl into the old Gio spot. Frees up 5 M. I like Muzzin, but the tires are done. Use that money to address some badly needed size or fiesty zest up front. Not a Roberson fan either, and I really don't think he will flourish with Kerfoot and Engvall. Maybe move Muzzin and Robertson, for a Hyman type LW to play with Taveras and Nylander, a hound with some grit, a Bunting B, Move Jankrok to RW with Kerfoot and Engvall.
supermann_98
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Surprised how many are saying we should trade Engvall to make room for Malgin. Malgin has been impressive but Engvall kills penalties, is the tallest and fastest forward we have, not to mention last year he started to show glimpses of more of a scoring touch and even a little nastiness throwing the body once in a while.
Getting rid of Holl should be the #1 priority for cap space. When Tavares is back one of Malgin, Robertson, or Engvall sits in the press box, whoever is least effective by that point in time.
Yes that leaves us thin at our 7D position but Kral or another Marlie can be an emergency call up if needed
Getting rid of Holl should be the #1 priority for cap space. When Tavares is back one of Malgin, Robertson, or Engvall sits in the press box, whoever is least effective by that point in time.
Yes that leaves us thin at our 7D position but Kral or another Marlie can be an emergency call up if needed
Golden_Jet
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Agreed but can't help but watch engvall and think there's more there.... He needs to show a little more fight and willingness to be more mean if he has too. He gives the other team a moral boost everytime there's a scrum and he skates away. He doesn't have to fight the guy but stay in the scrum and face wash a little, let them know you're gonna be in their faces all game.
It’s not to make room for Malgin. Engval is a better player than he is. It’s just to make room under the cap.
We have much better organizational depth at wing than we do at RH D or centre.
Engval is a better player than Holl too. But he is also easier to replace.
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I like the looks of Engvall and Jarnkrok on the same line, just not sure that a ppg centre wouldn't be wasted between them. The same logic applies to Kerfoot centering 1 elite NHL winger and the other who is emerging.
Kerfoot between Engvall and Jarnkrok would I think end up being one of the better 3rd lines in the entire league and one that would provide some pretty regular secondary scoring.
JT like it or not is still the 2c until someone takes the job away from him. I can see him lining up as the 3c possibly as early as next year or 2lw, that is of course, if the Leafs suddenly discover a 2c somewhere in the system, Nylander is a possibility but still a dark horse at this point.
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zeke
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Looks about right. Of all the top teams from the last couple years, the Leafs have lost by far the least.
Probably underrating them by not yet including Sandin, Robertson, ZAR ahead of Holl, Gaudette, Simmonds. That's probably worth another win or two.
and for the record his model had Colorado #1 last year and TBay #1 the years before, with the leafs borderline top 5.
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If the tires are done, who the hell would want to trade for him(and his 2x 5.6M cap hit), and give something up for him? Or are we also sending a pile of picks away, to unload him?
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Notsince67
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This is what maddens me with Engvall as well.
If he could elevate his "give a crap" and bring a consistent dog-on-a-bone work ethic, he could actually be a very dominating player for us, and well worth his paygrade.
It's the inconsistency seen in the past and not using his size is what I find makes his place a question mark, considering all of the options we currently have, at lower paygrades. Engvall does represent a moveable asset, whether we want to move him or not.
The package that he can be is very tantalizing. Hoping seeing the competition we have sees him push himself harder than ever.
supermann_98
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I don’t disagree but none of our wing depth can kill penalties the way Engvall can, not counting the PK regulars like Marner and Kerfoot.
Holl is #7 on our depth chart, forget he’s a RHD because I’d rather see Reilly, Sandin, or Gio on the right side than see Holl there.
We also gotta realize Engvall is still a relatively young guy, drafted the same draft as Nylander, and taller players sometimes take longer to break out. Not saying he’s gonna go off for 60 points but he’s got the tools (size, speed, reach).
Yeah he’s a pansy in the scrums but so is 90% of our team. None of the organizational depth at wing that could replace Engvall is adding any toughness whatsoever, not counting Knies who’s not even signed and hasn’t even committed to joining the team this year.
Kerfoot, Marner, Kampf, ZAR and NAK can kill penalties.
There has also been talk of Nylander and Mathews looking to get some time on the PK as well.
Holl may be our # 7 but we also have one of the oldest top 4s in the league. Guys are likely to miss time and our #7 will probably get significant playing time this year. And when it comes down to it I’d rather see guys like Robertson, Malgin, or Steeves in the lineup semi regularly than Mete or Benn.
I know there are a lot of people who don’t like Engval. But I’m not one of them. My opinion that he should go is purely a numbers game.
notDatsyuk
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Which begs the question "why are we paying $11M for a center who can't run his own line?"
I think we have to get past the idea of wasting our best players in an attempt to justify his contract.
JT seems to work best with wingers he can keep up with.
If you insist on dumping Kerfoot:
Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Jarnkrok-Nylander
Engvall-Tavares-Holmberg
Aston-Reese-Kampf-Aube-Kubel
Or put Kerfoot as 2C and Jarnkrok in place of Holmbeg.
If Nylander works at C and ZAR is being signed... maybe it is time to move on from Kerfoot.
Wondering if something around Kerfoot (flippable asset at the deadline) + Holl (flippable asset at the deadline) + Sandin + picks/prospects could be done for Chychrun. If it is in any way possible, would be a hell of a team for the next two years.
Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Engvall - Tavares - Jarnkrok
Robertson - Nylander - Malgin
ZAR - Kampf - NAK
Rielly - Chychrun
Muzzin - Brodie
Gio - Liljegren
Murray
Samsonov
Obviously a dream situation
Wondering if something around Kerfoot (flippable asset at the deadline) + Holl (flippable asset at the deadline) + Sandin + picks/prospects could be done for Chychrun. If it is in any way possible, would be a hell of a team for the next two years.
Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Engvall - Tavares - Jarnkrok
Robertson - Nylander - Malgin
ZAR - Kampf - NAK
Rielly - Chychrun
Muzzin - Brodie
Gio - Liljegren
Murray
Samsonov
Obviously a dream situation
