2022 Draft Thread - July 7-8 (CBJ to pick 6th (via CHI) and 12th overall)

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I felt the same way but I'm warming up to him. He plays pretty smart. If he's who we pick I'd be excited about it

I just get the Kevin Stenlund feeling both are below average skaters and slower, plenty of other prospect that are better in my book.

I am old school - so skating and pace are the basis for any of my opinions and biases.
 
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I just get the Kevin Stenlund feeling both are below average skaters and slower, plenty of other prospect that are better in my book.

I am old school - so skating and pace are the basis for any of my opinions and biases.
It's hard to watch a team like Colorado and think "you know, I want to spend a first round pick on a below average skater".
 

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It's hard to watch a team like Colorado and think "you know, I want to spend a first round pick on a below average skater".

On the other hand the St. Louis team might have been the slowest in the playoffs and they were the biggest threat to the Avs.

We also just drafted Cole Sillinger who has similarly bad skating. I'm not sure if that makes me more or less inclined to draft another player with that issue.
 

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A couple of paths projected by Pronman at The Athletic. Jiricek & Geekie OR Gauthier (if he falls to 6) and Mintukov (I suppose Lian Bichsel is a possibility also).
 
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On the other hand the St. Louis team might have been the slowest in the playoffs and they were the biggest threat to the Avs.

We also just drafted Cole Sillinger who has similarly bad skating. I'm not sure if that makes me more or less inclined to draft another player with that issue.
To be fair, Cole's skating form is bad but his A to B ability is fine. It's also correctable and his skating did not present him any more challenges in the NHL last year.


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A couple of paths projected by Pronman at The Athletic. Jiricek & Geekie OR Gauthier (if he falls to 6) and Mintukov (I suppose Lian Bichsel is a possibility also).
Yeah, I actually didn't hate the 4 options they showed. Me preference, personally, is the Gauthier (I've really warmed on him, especially if he's planned to be a Center at BC next year) and Mintyukov. I differ than most on here as I like Mintyukov and Nemec more so than Jiricek. Ideally I would take the RHD Nemec but if we went Gauthier and pulled Mintyukov, I would love that. Homerun in my book - again, different than probably most of you.
 

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A couple of paths projected by Pronman at The Athletic. Jiricek & Geekie OR Gauthier (if he falls to 6) and Mintukov (I suppose Lian Bichsel is a possibility also).
Jiricek would be absolutely lovely.

Geekie would be a bit disappointing with Nazar and Lambert available
 

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I can live with either Jiricek or Gauthier. Organizationally we need a 1RHD & a 1C. Tough choice. I'm guessing it is whoever is there at 6.
If Gauthier pans out he could "force" KJ to the W to help drive play here.
Laine-Gauthier-Bjorkstrand
KJ-Sillinger-Marchenko/Chinakhov
2-3 years down the road that could be a pretty decent top 6.
 

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A couple of paths projected by Pronman at The Athletic. Jiricek & Geekie OR Gauthier (if he falls to 6) and Mintukov (I suppose Lian Bichsel is a possibility also).

Jiricek + Geekie or Gauthier + Mintyukov are both dreams come true for me.

To be fair, Cole's skating form is bad but his A to B ability is fine. It's also correctable and his skating did not present him any more challenges in the NHL last year.

Conor Geekie's A to B is actually better than Cole Sillinger's, which isn't bad either. Both get dinged more for their agility and outside edges being weak. I do think that Cole's skating limits him a lot, I would never say it isn't a challenge for him.

Watch Geekie go 400 ft here. The top speed is good it's those wide boat turns that are an issue. People worried about that a lot with Lundell too, who had really wide turns where he didn't get power on his outside edges. Geekie's turns are some of the ugliest I've ever seen though... You have to assume that these guys have all been working on their skating since they were kids too, sometimes it isn't correctable.



Yeah, I actually didn't hate the 4 options they showed. Me preference, personally, is the Gauthier (I've really warmed on him, especially if he's planned to be a Center at BC next year) and Mintyukov. I differ than most on here as I like Mintyukov and Nemec more so than Jiricek. Ideally I would take the RHD Nemec but if we went Gauthier and pulled Mintyukov, I would love that. Homerun in my book - again, different than probably most of you.

Jiricek is my guy but I think Gauthier+Mintyukov is amazing.
 
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On the other hand the St. Louis team might have been the slowest in the playoffs and they were the biggest threat to the Avs.

We also just drafted Cole Sillinger who has similarly bad skating. I'm not sure if that makes me more or less inclined to draft another player with that issue.
And another counterpoint: Foudy was drafted in hopes that his hands catch up to his feet, which has yet to happen. But if a guy like Nazar, who has good if not great puck skills on top of being a great skater, is still on the board, then I would be disappointed with Geekie.
 

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And another counterpoint: Foudy was drafted in hopes that his hands catch up to his feet, which has yet to happen. But if a guy like Nazar, who has good if not great puck skills on top of being a great skater, is still on the board, then I would be disappointed with Geekie.

Yes I'd rather have Nazar. But Geekie has some serious upside so I'm not going to be sad about picking him at #12.
 
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For being such a “weak” draft there sure are a lot of interesting prospects 1-15

For me the top couple guys are weaker than the top couple usually are, and it only runs about 35 deep with players I want (2020 was about 50 deep). But the mid first is going to have some great players available this year. Maybe some McAvoy, Kyle Connor type steals.
 

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I think some of that might also apply to Dylan Strome. I don't know him well enough to say.

Stevo, you catch any CHL prospects this year in person?
Regrettably no. With 2 kids and a crazy work year it didnt happen. Had strong intentions to watch Bedard/Svozil and eventually wanted to see Howe as he exploded onto the scene but didnt happen
 
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I’ll be shocked if we draft Geekie.. its amazing to me that although our roster is anything but our reputation , Columbus still has that reputation of being made up of and prefer Torts type players . You know , maybe not the best skating or skill set , but guys that play with a ton of effort , hard to play against . It’s no different than the lazy rumors that Columbus would be a great trade partner for said big name center that may become available last couple years because we no doubt need quality centers . But they don’t account for where we are in process . Does it make sense to give away all the good you just drafted and built a ton of quality in org, for rumored player .

No doubt we need size , and I think if Gauthier is there we run to the podium, but if that doesn’t occur , doesn’t mean we draft Kevin Stenlund 2.0,at 12 . Just my opinion , and observations
 

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I’ll be shocked if we draft Geekie.. its amazing to me that although our roster is anything but our reputation , Columbus still has that reputation of being made up of and prefer Torts type players . You know , maybe not the best skating or skill set , but guys that play with a ton of effort , hard to play against . It’s no different than the lazy rumors that Columbus would be a great trade partner for said big name center that may become available last couple years because we no doubt need quality centers . But they don’t account for where we are in process . Does it make sense to give away all the good you just drafted and built a ton of quality in org, for rumored player .

No doubt we need size , and I think if Gauthier is there we run to the podium, but if that doesn’t occur , doesn’t mean we draft Kevin Stenlund 2.0,at 12 . Just my opinion , and observations
Both Johnson and Sillinger were labeled as “awkward” or bad skaters.
 
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