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2022 Draft Discussion (after the trade)

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All The Kings Men said:
If you question something/someone that I don't think needs questioning or focus your questioning on something that I don't think is the main thing to be questioned then I'll question you about why you're questioning that and not questioning the thing I think is more deserving of being questioned.
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Sounds like intense lip foam therapy to me! :skeptic:
 
Docgonzo said:
Draft thread is off the rails….
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You're right. My apologies. I won't contribute to other non-2022 Draft related chatter.

I have a couple more articles pending review and will post those, focusing on Mateychuk and Lian Bischel.

If you (or others) want to make suggestions, I can take it into consideration. I won't promise an article on it; it's a combination of making sure I can provide enough content and it's a realistic get (I wrote the Shane Wright one when the Kings were on the outside looking in). I also like to be able to watch the player so I can give my own thoughts, and avoid highlights.

This weekend I'm hoping to have something ready for McGroarty. Maybe Lambert.
 
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King'sPawn said:
You're right. My apologies. I won't contribute to other non-2022 Draft related chatter.

I have a couple more articles pending review and will post those, focusing on Mateychuk and Lian Bischel.

If you (or others) want to make suggestions, I can take it into consideration. I won't promise an article on it; it's a combination of making sure I can provide enough content and it's a realistic get (I wrote the Shane Wright one when the Kings were on the outside looking in). I also like to be able to watch the player so I can give my own thoughts, and avoid highlights.

This weekend I'm hoping to have something ready for McGroarty. Maybe Lambert.
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Bischel is an interesting one. Rankings seem to have him all over the place. Oddly, the HF thread and related mocks seems to have him frequently taken in the 1st, which is unusual for HF, to be all over a big, mostly defensive D.

I wonder if we're starting to see--we are publicly, that's for sure-- a shift back towards overvaluing size.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Bischel is an interesting one. Rankings seem to have him all over the place. Oddly, the HF thread and related mocks seems to have him frequently taken in the 1st, which is unusual for HF, to be all over a big, mostly defensive D.

I wonder if we're starting to see--we are publicly, that's for sure-- a shift back towards overvaluing size.
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I'm taking flak on the Ducks board b/c I think he'll be taken by Anaheim at 10.
 
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tomd said:
I'm taking flak on the Ducks board b/c I think he'll be taken by Anaheim at 10.
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I mean, that's probably a little wild to me with how much high-end offensive talent is still on the board--but if you believe in the guy I can see the case for it. Scouting report reminds me a lot of Edvinsson's.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I mean, that's probably a little wild to me with how much high-end offensive talent is still on the board--but if you believe in the guy I can see the case for it. Scouting report reminds me a lot of Edvinsson's.
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He'll never be as fast as Edvinsson but if he has hidden offense (and I believe he does) then he can easily be Hedman-lite. And guess who was around when TB drafted Hedman and Detroit drafted Seider and Edvinsson? If you said Pat Verbeek you win the prize.
 
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tomd said:
He'll never be as fast as Edvinsson but if he has hidden offense (and I believe he does) then he can easily be Hedman-lite. And guess who was around when TB drafted Hedman and Detroit drafted Seider and Edvinsson? If you said Pat Verbeek you win the prize.
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That's where I can see the case for it. To me it's just a gamble--but not unlike what Ottawa did with Sanderson.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Yeah, I think there are a couple of tiers near the top, then damn near everything up till like 40 is one big blob. Some scouts are gonna earn their money this year.
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For sure. I never seen a draft with so many small and (I think) overrated players. You'll get someone at 19 who could be just as good as who the Ducks take at 10 (assuming both teams keep their picks).
 
King'sPawn said:
You're right. My apologies. I won't contribute to other non-2022 Draft related chatter.

I have a couple more articles pending review and will post those, focusing on Mateychuk and Lian Bischel.

If you (or others) want to make suggestions, I can take it into consideration. I won't promise an article on it; it's a combination of making sure I can provide enough content and it's a realistic get (I wrote the Shane Wright one when the Kings were on the outside looking in). I also like to be able to watch the player so I can give my own thoughts, and avoid highlights.

This weekend I'm hoping to have something ready for McGroarty. Maybe Lambert.
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Ohgren, Yurov or Pickering. I’m torn with defenders because I see the Kings drafting in a bad spot for them. Not bad enough to get top one and good enough to possibly not want to draft a certain one that early.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
I mean, that's probably a little wild to me with how much high-end offensive talent is still on the board--but if you believe in the guy I can see the case for it. Scouting report reminds me a lot of Edvinsson's.
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Literally the beginning of my conclusion:
As mentioned, there are a few shallow parallels between the Swiss-born blueliner compared to Simon Edvinsson, who likely was on the Kings radar last year: He’s a large, left-shooting defenseman who has spent his life up until the draft playing in Europe. From here, the two start to differ. Bichsel is more of a defensive stalwart, as opposed to his more offensive contemporary.
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Docgonzo said:
Ohgren, Yurov or Pickering. I’m torn with defenders because I see the Kings drafting in a bad spot for them. Not bad enough to get top one and good enough to possibly not want to draft a certain one that early.
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That's my feeling as well. I'd rather they drop down and pick up two from Phoenix at the end of the first/start of the second and then pick up a couple there. Depends on what happens on the day of the draft of course (and if they keep the pick), but it feels like this draft will produce a lot of wild redrafts in a few years and I'd rather they get a couple swings instead of the one.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Bischel is an interesting one. Rankings seem to have him all over the place. Oddly, the HF thread and related mocks seems to have him frequently taken in the 1st, which is unusual for HF, to be all over a big, mostly defensive D.

I wonder if we're starting to see--we are publicly, that's for sure-- a shift back towards overvaluing size.
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They're probably looking at Bichsel as another potential Moritz Seider. McKenzie's mid-term list had him ranked 35th, and Craig Button had him ranked in the 60s.
 
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I can only assume someone good will fall to us.

Bichsel would be a great pick for us but he's gone before pick 15.

Noah Warren for us in round two.

1st round McGoat or forward.

2nd round Noah or the highest ranking goalie.
 
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From the few articles I’ve read I like Yurov’s game and think it’ll work well with the Kings. But due to the current Russian factor I’ve seen him all over the place mock draft wise.
 
Herby said:
You don’t believe the results of recent high draft picks have been a problem?

What should the expectation be as far as NHL readiness in 2022-2023 for players taken #11 in 2017, #5 in 2019 and #2 in 2020?
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I think you’re completely ignoring two huge roadblocks. One being injuries, and the other being the whole Covid mess.

None of these players asked to get injured, none of our management expected to draft a player that was going to get injured or as injured as much as Turcotte has been. It happens to every team. Sometimes we just have to wait an extra year or two to see what we actually have.

I’m more concerned for Turcotte health then I’m concerned about his ability to play the game at the NHL level. When the kid is healthy and plays for any amount of time he shows he’s a gamer and can drive a line.

Was Byfield not in the NHL because he could not go to the OHL because it was shut down for Covid? Can’t remember At the time of the draft he was considered very raw and a project. Can’t stick players like that right into the NHL so they had to put them somewhere.

This year will be a very big year for the kings. This is the year that the prospects actually have to emerge and take the pressure off our aging stars.

I know everyone wants the coach to play the prospects more and I did not really see any of our prospects truly give the coach reason to play them a lot more other than maybe Kaliyev. Not saying that they shouldn’t of got a couple more minutes or some power-play time but none of them were ready to take over line one or two duties on the players we had up there.

Can’t wait to see how this year shakes out. I honestly believe Blake trade some of our prospects this off-season for more ready help. And if that is the case and we land people we need to send those pics did work out in the end.
 
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I would love to see us land Isaac Howard or McGroarty. Both exceptional players. One is a pure O machine who is responsible in his own end to boot and the other is a budding power forward who plays every position and is tough as nails. Has a heavy shot and a gift for popping in a bunch of goals at the best possible times.

Knocks? McG can be a bit inconsistent at times and is still working on his skating. Mostly edge control for power drives but he is getting there. He isn't slow and is a good skater but he can work on those two things and be a legit top 6 er. He also loves a good tilt. I like his game allot.

Howard is fast as hell and already an elite set up man. He is a really good goal scorer but not elite in that regard but he sees the ice at an elite level and is just a gifted passer. He could work on his overall 3zone play but as he stands today he has all of the skill/talent to become a really good top6 player.

Lot's of really good options for us at 19 this year. No superstars but a few sure fire potential NHL'ers.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Bischel is an interesting one. Rankings seem to have him all over the place. Oddly, the HF thread and related mocks seems to have him frequently taken in the 1st, which is unusual for HF, to be all over a big, mostly defensive D.

I wonder if we're starting to see--we are publicly, that's for sure-- a shift back towards overvaluing size.
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It could be league GMs are taking note of not just the play of Eric Cernak, but also what he means to the team. Eric was drafted in the early to mid 2nd round, and has been a decent part of Tampa's Cup runs. Looking back at that draft pick now, I have to give it up to the Kings draft scouts. They nailed it with him.

For this draft, I'd pop open a cold one if the Kings ended up with one of the following three guys. And heck, I'd pop open a 6 pack if they ended up with two of them, as what each of them bring to the rink is sorely missing here. Even Drew mentioned this recently.

Lian Bichsel LD
Noah Warren RD
Maveric Lamoureux RD
 
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I would love to see us land Isaac Howard or McGroarty. Both exceptional players. One is a pure O machine who is responsible in his own end to boot and the other is a budding power forward who plays every position and is tough as nails. Has a heavy shot and a gift for popping in a bunch of goals at the best possible times.

Knocks? McG can be a bit inconsistent at times and is still working on his skating. Mostly edge control for power drives but he is getting there. He isn't slow and is a good skater but he can work on those two things and be a legit top 6 er. He also loves a good tilt. I like his game allot.

Howard is fast as hell and already an elite set up man. He is a really good goal scorer but not elite in that regard but he sees the ice at an elite level and is just a gifted passer. He could work on his overall 3zone play but as he stands today he has all of the skill/talent to become a really good top6 player.

Lot's of really good options for us at 19 this year. No superstars but a few sure fire potential NHL'ers.
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I'm trying to figure out what it is people don't like about Howard, honestly.
 
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As regulars know I am a respectful newcomer here but I had to make Sol my one and only blocked poster on day 2. Generally the further away from the top pick we get the better we do, historically. However, a lot of our recent picks are still baking in the oven. How good the oven is and the chefs, is becoming a pertinent question too. Would be nice to see more progress this season and some orders up, while still making the playoffs and even the second round. Given the parity in the league and the ups and downs of teams recently, I am not holding my breath. However, the young players must be brought into the most winning environment possible and they must earn a position in the lineup. Blake has earned some trust from me in the acquisition department. As has Mac after where he brought the team. The player development chefs and kings kitchen is being looked at more closely by me. Ticking down to the buzzer on serving dinner hot or serving it cold and Bland.
 
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