Prospect Info: 2022 31st Overall Pick | LW Isaac Howard - Part 2

[Hockeyville USA]

Truly wonder how this experience influences Howard and his expectations.
Being scratched over and over on a mid WC USA roster might be the reality check he needs to set him straight.

I think it'll humble him quite a bit, but the bridge is still burned with the Lightning. I think the alleged rhetoric about not wanting to spend time in the A from his camp will stop.

 

[Felonious Python]

I think it'll humble him quite a bit, but the bridge is still burned with the Lightning. I think the alleged rhetoric about not wanting to spend time in the A from his camp will stop.

I don't think the bridge is burned from the Lightning's perspective. Getting him to the right level of play is what the org wanted.

But having thought for a while about the idea of getting a defenseman for him, which is actually the preferable concept now?

It's very uncommon for a Hobey Baker winner to return to school, and he can talk up the idea that he's going back to alpha dog a national championship, but I don't think he's fooling many people.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

I don't think the bridge is burned from the Lightning's perspective. Getting him to the right level of play is what the org wanted.

But having thought about a while about the idea of getting a defenseman for him, which is the more preferable idea?

It's very uncommon for a Hobey Baker winner to return to school, and he can talk up the idea that he's going back to alpha dog a national championship, but I don't think he's fooling many people.

I do wonder if it'll be a team like Pittsburgh who needs young talent infusion or a team like Chicago who needs more forwards as well, if Howard is traded.

You'd prefer to keep Howard, but if BriseBois & management decide he's too big of a headache, then a trade at the draft is necessary.

 

[Felonious Python]

I do wonder if it'll be a team like Pittsburgh who needs young talent infusion or a team like Chicago who needs more forwards as well, if Howard is traded.

You'd prefer to keep Howard, but if BriseBois & management decide he's too big of a headache, then a trade at the draft is necessary.

He could be traded anywhere if going to the AHL is an option. Chicago and Pittsburgh's coaches at the World Championships are the ones who are scratching him.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

I'm done with Ike. Trade him for a thicc boii we can teach to crash the net and bang. Geekie will get there sooner than later I think. Let's get another one

 

[Hockeyville USA]

I'm done with Ike. Trade him for a thicc boii we can teach to crash the net and bang. Geekie will get there sooner than later I think. Let's get another one

Yep, I've sorta gotten to this point with Howard. With what we've seen from Ehlers in the playoffs, if that is Howard's highest end ceiling (certainly not the most likely) outcome, plus the effect of his potential distraction, you'd be better off getting forward or defense depth.

 

[Sky04]

I can see him just sitting in the stands holding his Hobey Baker in hand and death staring the coaching staff all game.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

I haven't been following prospects as much lately. Are there any guys around Howard's age who play like a Tkachuk floating around that we can get ahold of?

 

[Rschmitz]

I haven't been following prospects as much lately. Are there any guys around Howard's age who play like a Tkachuk floating around that we can get ahold of?

Will Cuylie of the Rangers would be about the closest thing we could potentially get if they are willing to part with him.

 

[Felonious Python]

I don't see why a team would trade another young forward for Howard, unless they thought Howard had the much higher potential.

We don't even really know if Howard is just some regular season Andy, or if he's got that playoff dawg in him.

 

[Sky04]

He's 5'11 190lbs what could you possibly expect from him in the playoffs that we don't already have in spades. His only chance in the league is if he goes to an offensively starved team lacking depth, look at where he is on team USA, not good enough to be in the top-6 and doesn't have the game for the bottom 6.

He doesn't look like he can generate any offense by himself, especially against men. He's going to need an elite passer to get his goals, if only we had one.

 

[Felonious Python]

Howard scratched again for the quarter and semi-final.

USA will play for gold, but during the medal ceremony, it will be interesting to see Howard's body language.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

It's impossible for me to be more irritated about this BS than I am. We have 1.... 1 pick in the 1st round since the ice age and we managed to draft a dickhead who is tanking his value

 

[Stammertime91]

It's impossible for me to be more irritated about this BS than I am. We have 1.... 1 pick in the 1st round since the ice age and we managed to draft a dickhead who is tanking his value

I think Sky mentioned JBB couldn't have foreseen this and I agree. Though, character matters... you gotta love Howard's confidence but at the same time if you listen to, I dont know, 99% of the people we've drafted, nobody would be in Howard's class of arrogance. Tough to gauge because of how exciting that moment can be.

Im just more puzzled how infrequent JBB actually checked in the last few years. I assumed management and particularly Brisebois would be in greater communication with a 1st round pick. I dont remember the article but it was an assistant or someone that routinely keeps tabs on them. Understandable but damn... like, on podcast and he basically polished his arrogance and just showed hes living in lala land.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

I think Sky mentioned JBB couldn't have foreseen this and I agree. Though, character matters... you gotta love Howard's confidence but at the same time if you listen to, I dont know, 99% of the people we've drafted, nobody would be in Howard's class of arrogance. Tough to gauge because of how exciting that moment can be.

Im just more puzzled how infrequent JBB actually checked in the last few years. I assumed management and particularly Brisebois would be in greater communication with a 1st round pick. I dont remember the article but it was an assistant or someone that routinely keeps tabs on them. Understandable but damn... like, on podcast and he basically polished his arrogance and just showed hes living in lala land.

I was wrong about JBB. Hell I'm wrong all the time and I'm fine with admitting it. I just hope we can actually unload this guy

 

[creg]

Howard should still have plenty of value, I still think he'll sign his professional contract (with the team that trades for him) this off-season.

 

[PucksInTooDeep]

I haven't been following this draft class too closely, would we rather have the compensatory 63rd pick in 2027 for Howard or a 2nd in this years draft? (if thats all were offered)

 

[Felonious Python]

I haven't been following this draft class too closely, would we rather have the compensatory 63rd pick in 2027 for Howard or a 2nd in this years draft? (if thats all were offered)

Probably 2027, since there's supposedly a drop-off after about the first 20 picks this year.