admiralcadillac
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Prospect Info: [2022 - 26th] Filip Mesar (OHL - Kitchener Rangers)
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CHwest
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He's not going to excel in the AHL, poor teammates. He needs top shelf NHL players to play with to bring out the juice within.
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a playmaker will make the plays and provide opportunities to his teammates to score goals and if there's no one on the other side to putt the puck into the net, no one gets rewarded.
I brought up Pinelli because, he's a guy who played on the same team as Mesar and who was scoring lots of goals and "took over games" just like some people want. Not only did he score lots of points but he's got the hockey IQ of a potato... the symmetrical opposite of what Mesar.
We've seen Mesar play at camp 2 years in a row and we all saw how good he was... i really do not understand your hate towards him. He's good, he's skilled, a leader, a straight shooter... captain material, what more do you want?
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He's not going to excel in the AHL, poor teammates. He needs top shelf NHL players to play with to bring out the juice within.
Irrational hate but ok, keep going
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He was brought in to make life easier for Slafkovsky. To have a friend around in a new culture. A classic Canadiens reach that was based on off-ice intagibles. Similar to a very strong handshake or winner's stare.
And if his presence had anything to do with Slaf's turnaround, in that case it's good enough. As a hockey player he's an overaged bust playing in kids league. But if he is Rose Nylund to Juraj's Dorothy Zbornak, I wish him productive AHL career and even a brief NHL visit where they can play few minutes on the same line.
And if his presence had anything to do with Slaf's turnaround, in that case it's good enough. As a hockey player he's an overaged bust playing in kids league. But if he is Rose Nylund to Juraj's Dorothy Zbornak, I wish him productive AHL career and even a brief NHL visit where they can play few minutes on the same line.
I really dislike when we get these short and often inflammatory excerpts of an interview in another language relayed back to the English speaking world on Twitter
This often happens to Russian players, but this time it looks like Mesar was on the receiving end. The tweet has gathered a lot of attention and might have even affected Mesar's reputation and I don't even know if he said what's reported. I don't know the context either
Someone also said, I think it was @Miller Time , that North American sensibilities are let's say heightened compared to those of western (especially Netherland and Belgium here) and central Europeans. I wouldn't be thrilled about this if I was Mesar, but it might be a lesson to always play the corporate tape no matter the time and place
This often happens to Russian players, but this time it looks like Mesar was on the receiving end. The tweet has gathered a lot of attention and might have even affected Mesar's reputation and I don't even know if he said what's reported. I don't know the context either
Someone also said, I think it was @Miller Time , that North American sensibilities are let's say heightened compared to those of western (especially Netherland and Belgium here) and central Europeans. I wouldn't be thrilled about this if I was Mesar, but it might be a lesson to always play the corporate tape no matter the time and place
CHwest
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First you say he's mailing it in because he's not challenged, then you say he's captain material? As far apart as the eat is from the west.
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When did i say he wasn't challenged?
He 1000% is captain material, his national team seems to be giving more respect than we do thats for sure.
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Maybe a more accurate translation was Mesar saying he wasn't patient enough to wait for his teammate to get into position, not that they were too slow. Who knows. Anyone taking it as what was written isn't understanding you can't just swap a word for a word while translating.
You might even say "polar opposites" like the north and south pole..
Only the north pole is very similar to the south pole... hmm
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Like they needed Mesar to help the poor first overall pick who really needed his life easier.
They drafted him because they thought he was BPA and it looks like a blunder. Common occurence at #26, no big deal. 2022 draft is still stellar and the best since 2007.
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He was nearly at 2 PPG in the WJC and 1.6 during the playoffs.
We need to see him play in the AHL or hopefully he cracks the NHL right off camp, he improved alot since last year
CHwest
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I have Kitchener Rangers season tickets and have watched Mesar many times.
For starters he is 100% a pass first type of player. I’m not sure what his power play assist totals are but I am sure that he got a big chunk of his points that way.
This past year the Rangers really only had three skilled forwards until the trade deadline when Sale was brought in. Mesar and Sale were glued to each other but Sale had a real lack of interest. Very lazy hockey player who put forth very little effort.
Over the course of the last two years he has improved a lot. He went from being a winger to a center. He was killing penalties the second half of this past year.
He is great at zone entries but changed up his game plan in doing so. His first year he would enter the offensive zone and then keep it and go deep. Defenders would angle him out and he would skate with it to the corner and then behind the net and circle to find a passing lane. This year he would enter the zone and have more of that Mitch Marner / Patrick Kane style where he would slow the game down and try to hit a pass. The Rangers lacked skill upfront except for a few players. They didn’t really give him too good of passing lanes. Now you can look at it that Mesar didn’t move to where there was a passing lane and see it both ways.
I can’t even tell you how many times that he set his teammates up for scoring chances and they didn’t capitalize.
For starters he is 100% a pass first type of player. I’m not sure what his power play assist totals are but I am sure that he got a big chunk of his points that way.
This past year the Rangers really only had three skilled forwards until the trade deadline when Sale was brought in. Mesar and Sale were glued to each other but Sale had a real lack of interest. Very lazy hockey player who put forth very little effort.
Over the course of the last two years he has improved a lot. He went from being a winger to a center. He was killing penalties the second half of this past year.
He is great at zone entries but changed up his game plan in doing so. His first year he would enter the offensive zone and then keep it and go deep. Defenders would angle him out and he would skate with it to the corner and then behind the net and circle to find a passing lane. This year he would enter the zone and have more of that Mitch Marner / Patrick Kane style where he would slow the game down and try to hit a pass. The Rangers lacked skill upfront except for a few players. They didn’t really give him too good of passing lanes. Now you can look at it that Mesar didn’t move to where there was a passing lane and see it both ways.
I can’t even tell you how many times that he set his teammates up for scoring chances and they didn’t capitalize.
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I agree. I've watched probably 30 games of mesar over the last couple of years and this did happen quite a bit. He reads and sees the ice extreme well and is able to feather passes into areas where his teammates were slow to react.
I personally didn't think going back to Jr this year was the best decision but I also don't think he was going to get the proper minutes in laval. Damn if you do and damn if you don't situation.
He will have a clean slate in Laval and it's up to him to make the most of it. I'm hopefully because he has alot of skill but definitely a boom or bust prospect.
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i never said he wasn't challenged... London was a solid challenge and a few other teams but for the most part the OHL was below his skill level. Im sure you saw that clip of him entering the O zone alone and deking through 4 players?
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1 goal 15 assists. I swear I read people saying Mesar had a great playoffs. And those 15 assists...somebody converted them?
A leader...captain material? Where is that coming from?
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He's still a very talented player, if he doesn't work out, he doesn't work out. It was a bet on a very good skill set.
Even Dallas has their Dellandreas.
Not every 1st rounder makes it. That draft will look good regardless if Mesar hits.
Even Dallas has their Dellandreas.
Not every 1st rounder makes it. That draft will look good regardless if Mesar hits.
I hope he’s ready for next season because there will be a lot of pressure on him to perform in the AHL.
The more time goes on the less runaway he will have. Hopefully he will be in a situation where his offensive tools can shine but he will also need to work very hard.
Success will, most if the time, come from hard work and right mindset. It’s important to have accountability and understand that having success starts with him not teammates or unfavourable situations.
The more time goes on the less runaway he will have. Hopefully he will be in a situation where his offensive tools can shine but he will also need to work very hard.
Success will, most if the time, come from hard work and right mindset. It’s important to have accountability and understand that having success starts with him not teammates or unfavourable situations.
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Again, playmakers create plays... he's not a natural scorer.. hes undeniably a chance generating machine
Leader? look at his WJC, he had an A on his jersey... before the tourny they said he was going to be the captain
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I've been much more bullish on Mešar's trajectory than I thought I would have been. I think all those excuses trotted out for other prospects and their struggles really does apply to him: huge culture change, huge sporting culture change, massive difference in play-development between the Slovak pro league and the OHL, etc.
Basically put, he was thrown into a totally different environment. He might come out of it a much better player than he would have otherwise. I don't blindly trust him or the Habs but I think we've got nothing to worry about just yet.
Basically put, he was thrown into a totally different environment. He might come out of it a much better player than he would have otherwise. I don't blindly trust him or the Habs but I think we've got nothing to worry about just yet.
This is exactly the kind of player we should have drafted with the 26OA in a rebuild and I'm glad we did. If he can endure the physicality of NA-sized ice, he will be a NHL player.
No, Štefan Bugan translation was proper. Mesar should avoid criticize the teammates and work on himself. I know he is young and it was frustrating to spend 2y between juniors after play a man hockey. Now he will get a chance to prove his hockey qualities and i wish him all the best.
