Speculation: 2022-23 Management/Coaching/Ownership

[bsu]

So Felix Sicard?

Imagine... f***.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

So Felix Sicard?

Teaford says good hands... i know were in trouble

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

So Felix Sicard?

Please god no

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Hire Derek Lee + @Static

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

So Felix Sicard?

Someone needs to be hired from here for equal representation

 

[Deuce22]

So Felix Sicard?

5 on 5 coverage only. Nothing regarding power plays or penalty killing. Sicard has possession of a laptop and he is good at entering the arena zone with it. Derek Grant will not do interviews with him, I presume.

 

[Paul4587]

Was never a fan of Teaford. No loss there.

 

[Static]

 

[bsu]

Excellent.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Trojan horse installed ?

 

[jiggsawpuzzle35]

Isn’t his wife in charge of the Lady Ducks?

 

[MMC]

 

[Terry Yake]

promo schedule is out

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

I never thought we'd see the day a Ducks GM makes an appearance on a podcast.

 

[Duck Off]

Just listened to this. First, that f***ing podcast is awful. It just sounds like 2 drinking buddies joking the whole time. Second, I'll summarize a bit to spare you guys from that shit.

Not a lot from Verbeek. 90+% of it was just personal stuff from him. Short version of personal things on him that I skipped through mostly:
-Farmer
- Big Hunter
-Has a ranch
-Seems to lead an extremely busy home life
-Right now he's on his ranch somewhere in the midwest. Renting a place in Irvine in Anaheim.

For the stuff that's more Ducks related, not a lot, but here's some key points:

Was asked if he approaches new GM gig like Yzerman - I felt like he sidestepped the question for the most part. He talked about traits he admired about Yzerman but didn't confirm or deny that he likes that same approach

He was asked about the Terry incident (the primary reason I wanted to listen). - I didn't love his answer personally. He implied a lot of that was on Troy for going into the scrum not prepared to fight, only to break it up. Said he had a chat with him. Said he didn't like the way the other players on the ice handled either. Said they had several team meetings. The most troubling part for me is he said the rest of the season after that for things like that was fine. I disagree, as I thought we were consistently getting pushed around.

In the same topic, he was asked about if a team needs an enforcer. He said that he thinks there's a role for that in the game still, but that he isn't necessarily "building his team that way". He believes in more of a pack mentality where all guys are stepping in.

He was asked if they are always crunching the numbers for the cap. He mentioned Solomon is their guy for that and that this offseason they were somewhat worried about reaching the floor. He acknowledged there is a budget, but didn't elaborate at all what, or even about, it is.

Klingberg deal - Said they reached out to his camp early in free agency. Sounds like more term was discussed, but not at that cap number. Went quiet for a while and new agent reached out to them and said they were good with 1 year deal which is why it happened quickly.

A lot of what he said implied we're still very much rebuilding. He said there's several draft picks who aren't ready that they think will be fixtures in the lineup. He mentioned this when asked "what are you going to do with all that cap space?". I took at it as "we're not going to just use it all up and sign deals that will prevent us from doing win now moves in the future." He didn't cite any timeline or anything like that.

Was asked about Zegras. Said back in the day he would have hated it, but says game has grown and skill like that should not be looked at negatively.

That's about it. All in all, I was disappointed considering it was over an hour to listen to. If you're interested in 2 guys shooting the shit and asking PV questions about his normal life, you'll love it. That's just not for me. I was hoping they'd ask more about potential moves or are there any other players you're still looking at, etc.. Not really any of that. The most insightful thing was the Terry incident, which I didn't love his answers. He implied it wasn't a personnel issue, but a team culture one. I definitely disagree. Not saying the culture can't be improved, but there's definitely a lack of team toughness on this roster.

I'm sure this is written poorly as throwing together between calls so sorry in advance for difficult read.

 

[Kalv]

Just listened to this. First, that f***ing podcast is awful. It just sounds like 2 drinking buddies joking the whole time. Second, I'll summarize a bit to spare you guys from that shit.

Not a lot from Verbeek. 90+% of it was just personal stuff from him. Short version of personal things on him that I skipped through mostly:
-Farmer
- Big Hunter
-Has a ranch
-Seems to lead an extremely busy home life
-Right now he's on his ranch somewhere in the midwest. Renting a place in Irvine in Anaheim.

For the stuff that's more Ducks related, not a lot, but here's some key points:

Was asked if he approaches new GM gig like Yzerman - I felt like he sidestepped the question for the most part. He talked about traits he admired about Yzerman but didn't confirm or deny that he likes that same approach

He was asked about the Terry incident (the primary reason I wanted to listen). - I didn't love his answer personally. He implied a lot of that was on Troy for going into the scrum not prepared to fight, only to break it up. Said he had a chat with him. Said he didn't like the way the other players on the ice handled either. Said they had several team meetings. The most troubling part for me is he said the rest of the season after that for things like that was fine. I disagree, as I thought we were consistently getting pushed around.

In the same topic, he was asked about if a team needs an enforcer. He said that he thinks there's a role for that in the game still, but that he isn't necessarily "building his team that way". He believes in more of a pack mentality where all guys are stepping in.

He was asked if they are always crunching the numbers for the cap. He mentioned Solomon is their guy for that and that this offseason they were somewhat worried about reaching the floor. He acknowledged there is a budget, but didn't elaborate at all what, or even about, it is.

Klingberg deal - Said they reached out to his camp early in free agency. Sounds like more term was discussed, but not at that cap number. Went quiet for a while and new agent reached out to them and said they were good with 1 year deal which is why it happened quickly.

A lot of what he said implied we're still very much rebuilding. He said there's several draft picks who aren't ready that they think will be fixtures in the lineup. He mentioned this when asked "what are you going to do with all that cap space?". I took at it as "we're not going to just use it all up and sign deals that will prevent us from doing win now moves in the future. He didn't cite any timeline or anything like that.

Was asked about Zegras. Said back in the day he would have hated it, but says game has grown and skill like that should not be looked at negatively.

That's about it. All in all, I was disappointed considering it was over an hour to listen to. If you're interested in 2 guys shooting the shit and asking PV questions about his normal life, you'll love it. That's just not for me. I was hoping they'd ask more about potential moves or are there any other players you're still looking at, etc.. Not really any of that. The most insightful thing was the Terry incident, which I didn't love his answers. He implied it wasn't a personnel issue, but a team culture one. I definitely disagree. Not saying the culture can't be improved, but there's definitely a lack of team toughness on this roster.

I'm sure this is written poorly as throwing together between calls so sorry in advance for difficult read.

Awesome recap, thanks.


Yeah, I get the pack mentality but man, he is really building a soft roster

 

[Dryish]

I'd be hesitant to jump into conclusions about roster softness and Verbeek's approach. While he may not want to fill a roster spot with a face puncher, he's definitely emphasizing individual strength training and an everybody-looks-after-everybody mentality on the ice, which can both ideally be ways of achieving the same thing as having that one physical threat on your team.

If your whole roster bulks up, regardless of whether they're fighty or not they'll be pushed around less.

And I, for one, would much rather we had a roster full of bulkier skill players than employ a Ryan Reaves type character.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Just listened to this. First, that f***ing podcast is awful. It just sounds like 2 drinking buddies joking the whole time. Second, I'll summarize a bit to spare you guys from that shit.

Not a lot from Verbeek. 90+% of it was just personal stuff from him. Short version of personal things on him that I skipped through mostly:
-Farmer
- Big Hunter
-Has a ranch
-Seems to lead an extremely busy home life
-Right now he's on his ranch somewhere in the midwest. Renting a place in Irvine in Anaheim.

For the stuff that's more Ducks related, not a lot, but here's some key points:

Was asked if he approaches new GM gig like Yzerman - I felt like he sidestepped the question for the most part. He talked about traits he admired about Yzerman but didn't confirm or deny that he likes that same approach

He was asked about the Terry incident (the primary reason I wanted to listen). - I didn't love his answer personally. He implied a lot of that was on Troy for going into the scrum not prepared to fight, only to break it up. Said he had a chat with him. Said he didn't like the way the other players on the ice handled either. Said they had several team meetings. The most troubling part for me is he said the rest of the season after that for things like that was fine. I disagree, as I thought we were consistently getting pushed around.

In the same topic, he was asked about if a team needs an enforcer. He said that he thinks there's a role for that in the game still, but that he isn't necessarily "building his team that way". He believes in more of a pack mentality where all guys are stepping in.

He was asked if they are always crunching the numbers for the cap. He mentioned Solomon is their guy for that and that this offseason they were somewhat worried about reaching the floor. He acknowledged there is a budget, but didn't elaborate at all what, or even about, it is.

Klingberg deal - Said they reached out to his camp early in free agency. Sounds like more term was discussed, but not at that cap number. Went quiet for a while and new agent reached out to them and said they were good with 1 year deal which is why it happened quickly.

A lot of what he said implied we're still very much rebuilding. He said there's several draft picks who aren't ready that they think will be fixtures in the lineup. He mentioned this when asked "what are you going to do with all that cap space?". I took at it as "we're not going to just use it all up and sign deals that will prevent us from doing win now moves in the future. He didn't cite any timeline or anything like that.

Was asked about Zegras. Said back in the day he would have hated it, but says game has grown and skill like that should not be looked at negatively.

That's about it. All in all, I was disappointed considering it was over an hour to listen to. If you're interested in 2 guys shooting the shit and asking PV questions about his normal life, you'll love it. That's just not for me. I was hoping they'd ask more about potential moves or are there any other players you're still looking at, etc.. Not really any of that. The most insightful thing was the Terry incident, which I didn't love his answers. He implied it wasn't a personnel issue, but a team culture one. I definitely disagree. Not saying the culture can't be improved, but there's definitely a lack of team toughness on this roster.

I'm sure this is written poorly as throwing together between calls so sorry in advance for difficult read.

Thanks for the summary.

 

[Kalv]

I'd be hesitant to jump into conclusions about roster softness and Verbeek's approach. While he may not want to fill a roster spot with a face puncher, he's definitely emphasizing individual strength training and an everybody-looks-after-everybody mentality on the ice, which can both ideally be ways of achieving the same thing as having that one physical threat on your team.

If your whole roster bulks up, regardless of whether they're fighty or not they'll be pushed around less.

And I, for one, would much rather we had a roster full of bulkier skill players than employ a Ryan Reaves type character.

I can agree to this as well. But I would wish we add someone else besides Carrick who can drop em. Doesn't have to be Reeves, but man, someone.

 

[bsu]

Just listened to this. First, that f***ing podcast is awful. It just sounds like 2 drinking buddies joking the whole time. Second, I'll summarize a bit to spare you guys from that shit.

Not a lot from Verbeek. 90+% of it was just personal stuff from him. Short version of personal things on him that I skipped through mostly:
-Farmer
- Big Hunter
-Has a ranch
-Seems to lead an extremely busy home life
-Right now he's on his ranch somewhere in the midwest. Renting a place in Irvine in Anaheim.

For the stuff that's more Ducks related, not a lot, but here's some key points:

Was asked if he approaches new GM gig like Yzerman - I felt like he sidestepped the question for the most part. He talked about traits he admired about Yzerman but didn't confirm or deny that he likes that same approach

He was asked about the Terry incident (the primary reason I wanted to listen). - I didn't love his answer personally. He implied a lot of that was on Troy for going into the scrum not prepared to fight, only to break it up. Said he had a chat with him. Said he didn't like the way the other players on the ice handled either. Said they had several team meetings. The most troubling part for me is he said the rest of the season after that for things like that was fine. I disagree, as I thought we were consistently getting pushed around.

In the same topic, he was asked about if a team needs an enforcer. He said that he thinks there's a role for that in the game still, but that he isn't necessarily "building his team that way". He believes in more of a pack mentality where all guys are stepping in.

He was asked if they are always crunching the numbers for the cap. He mentioned Solomon is their guy for that and that this offseason they were somewhat worried about reaching the floor. He acknowledged there is a budget, but didn't elaborate at all what, or even about, it is.

Klingberg deal - Said they reached out to his camp early in free agency. Sounds like more term was discussed, but not at that cap number. Went quiet for a while and new agent reached out to them and said they were good with 1 year deal which is why it happened quickly.

A lot of what he said implied we're still very much rebuilding. He said there's several draft picks who aren't ready that they think will be fixtures in the lineup. He mentioned this when asked "what are you going to do with all that cap space?". I took at it as "we're not going to just use it all up and sign deals that will prevent us from doing win now moves in the future." He didn't cite any timeline or anything like that.

Was asked about Zegras. Said back in the day he would have hated it, but says game has grown and skill like that should not be looked at negatively.

That's about it. All in all, I was disappointed considering it was over an hour to listen to. If you're interested in 2 guys shooting the shit and asking PV questions about his normal life, you'll love it. That's just not for me. I was hoping they'd ask more about potential moves or are there any other players you're still looking at, etc.. Not really any of that. The most insightful thing was the Terry incident, which I didn't love his answers. He implied it wasn't a personnel issue, but a team culture one. I definitely disagree. Not saying the culture can't be improved, but there's definitely a lack of team toughness on this roster.

I'm sure this is written poorly as throwing together between calls so sorry in advance for difficult read.

Cheers, I agree with you I don't like those answers very much but I didn't listen to it just going off your summary.

 

[Duck Off]

I'd be hesitant to jump into conclusions about roster softness and Verbeek's approach. While he may not want to fill a roster spot with a face puncher, he's definitely emphasizing individual strength training and an everybody-looks-after-everybody mentality on the ice, which can both ideally be ways of achieving the same thing as having that one physical threat on your team.

If your whole roster bulks up, regardless of whether they're fighty or not they'll be pushed around less.

And I, for one, would much rather we had a roster full of bulkier skill players than employ a Ryan Reaves type character.

I get what you're saying. He's prioritized that for sure, and obviously size was the theme in his first draft. A larger team might have fewer liberties taken with them, but I think it's about accountability. He mentions he expects every player to step in. That's great, and I agree, but it's also about having players who will hold players accountable as well. Des and Manson were both players who would do that. It's why many wanted neither traded. I would have made the Manson trade too, but I would have overpaid to bring him back (rather overpay him than Strome). IMO, you don't trade a guy like Deslauriers for a 3rd round pick. I'd easily have given him the deal he signed with Philly too.

The difference in Reaves and Des is one is a solid player and the other is worthless other than fighting. So yeah, having a big, physical team is great, but having guys who are good at hockey, and don't hesitate to retaliate is another. I always thought Murray undervalued that a bit too. Trading Des for a 3rd and not re-signing him, IMO anyway, was PV undervaluing it as well.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

I get what you're saying. He's prioritized that for sure, and obviously size was the theme in his first draft. A larger team might have fewer liberties taken with them, but I think it's about accountability. He mentions he expects every player to step in. That's great, and I agree, but it's also about having players who will hold players accountable as well. Des and Manson were both players who would do that. It's why many wanted neither traded. I would have made the Manson trade too, but I would have overpaid to bring him back (rather overpay him than Strome). IMO, you don't trade a guy like Deslauriers for a 3rd round pick. I'd easily have given him the deal he signed with Philly too.

The difference in Reaves and Des is one is a solid player and the other is worthless other than fighting. So yeah, having a big, physical team is great, but having guys who do so, are good at hockey, and don't hesitate to retaliate is another. I always thought Murray undervalued that a bit too. Trading Des for a 3rd and not re-signing him, IMO anyway, was PV undervaluing it as well.

Des was worth more to us than a 3rd round pick. But it's possible he wasn't going to sign here and Verbeek got what he could for him. If that was the case, I don't really have a problem with his decision.

 

[Duck Off]

Cheers, I agree with you I don't like those answers very much but I didn't listen to it just going off your summary.

That podcast was over 3 hours. Not sure on the exact time (it says on podcast link), but the interview with PV is roughly an hour and a half into it. I tried listening to just the podcast for a bit and felt like drinking antifreeze so fast forwarded it to the PV interview. 90+% of their questions and discussion is related to his time prior to becoming the Ducks GM so I was disappointed. That's because I went into wanting Duck news, not PV news. If you're interested in more about his personality than I am, you mind find it more interesting. But yeah, if I could do it all over again, I'd have not listened and let someone else do the recap.

 

[bsu]

That podcast was over 3 hours. Not sure on the exact time (it says on podcast link), but the interview with PV is roughly an hour and a half into it. I tried listening to just the podcast for a bit and felt like drinking antifreeze so fast forwarded it to the PV interview. 90+% of their questions and discussion is related to his time prior to becoming the Ducks GM so I was disappointed. That's because I went into wanting Duck news, not PV news. If you're interested in more about his personality than I am, you mind find it more interesting. But yeah, if I could do it all over again, I'd have not listened and let someone else do the recap.

By how you explained it, I'll save time and waste it on something else lol

 

[Duck Off]

Des was worth more to us than a 3rd round pick. But it's possible he wasn't going to sign here and Verbeek got what he could for him. If that was the case, I don't really have a problem with his decision.

That's always a possibility but I'm fairly certain it was mentioned that PV didn't like the term he was looking for in the past. To be fair, 4 years is long for a guy his age. I still would have done it though.

I agree that if Des wouldn't re-sign here, then the 3rd was fine. I just don't think that's true or what happened personally. I could be wrong though.