Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

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GoNordiquesGo

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It isn't an opinion. It is a fact that our 2C and 3C positions are major weaknesses.

Stating our goaltending is probably worse is an opinion.

Seems people have an issue distinguishing facts from opinions.
I meant your comment that Manson is barely better than Jack Johnson and that people will see that they are wrong. Coloring that indirectly, by saying anyone who thinks differently does it because they are Avs fan and not objective, as opposed to you.

But I shouldn't have posted what I did... your comment really wasn't that bad... to be honest I was in a bad mood and took it out on you... sorry :cool:
 
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I meant your comment that Manson is barely better than Jack Johnson and that people will see that they are wrong. Coloring that indirectly, by saying anyone who thinks differently does it because they are Avs fan and not objective, as opposed to you.
Nah the last comment was regarding people who think Colorado is a better team this year. Nothing to do with Manson per se.

Which has everything to do with the 2C spot. Going from Naz to Rodrigues is a massive decline. Where everything else in the roster is largely equal give or take 0.5 wins in a couple spots. But going from Naz to ERod is like ~3.5 wins of lost value.


It is objectively a worse team then last year for that one switch alone.
 

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Man main board threads are filled with absolute morons. I know this is well known but damn every time I go there I swear I lose brain cells
 
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I wonder if Mack ends up signing for exactly double what he's making now. If the $6.3M had any significance number wise for him, doubling it would be a reasonable direction to go.


Also makes him conveniently the highest paid player in the league by exactly 100k lol
 
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It isn't an opinion. It is a fact that our 2C and 3C positions are major weaknesses.

Stating our goaltending is probably worse is an opinion.

Seems people have an issue distinguishing facts from opinions.

I 100% agree that our 2C is a weakness. And probably even 3C. How is that a fact tho? Just something that’s very likely. 2 of Erod, Newhook, Meyers, Compher could put up 35+ points at C leaving us with a bad 2C and average 3C. There’s probably like a 5% chance if it happening but it’s not a fact that someone like Newhook just doesn’t pop off at C. Not something I’d bet on at this point but you can’t just say it’s a fact it won’t happen.

I personally think health will play the biggest factor. We’re not as well equipped to survive the injury bug. I think the defence is much stronger this season tho and the goalies are going to surprise people playing behind it. I don’t think we win as many games as last year unless we get perfect health but I think we’ll still hit 110ish points.
 
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He's a smart guy... you don't need to be fast to play fast. I'm not saying he'd be great, but as a 4th liner who can help on the PK... he could add value. I wouldn't go out of my way to add him. He's just a guy who can play a role on a team still. Many of the other guys can't.

Would make for the league's oldest 4th line, that's for sure.

He didn't do great in the faceoff circle last season but I think he could help out in that department.

Honestly doesn't seem like it's worth the trouble but he's yet another big body (cue Hasbro) who can plant himself in front of the net and score a few goals. If the Avs think he's worth it, go ahead.
 

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It isn't an opinion. It is a fact that our 2C and 3C positions are major weaknesses.

Stating our goaltending is probably worse is an opinion.

Seems people have an issue distinguishing facts from opinions.
3C isn't a major weakness, since Meyers, Rodrigues, and Compher (who showed he can handle it in the playoffs) are capable 3C's. But yeah, 2C is a major hole.
 

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Mack chirping Makar about not taking enough money...not sure what to think of that. This is something I'd expect from Matthews and Marner.

Both Mack and Brisson laughed and didn't want to answer when they were asked if he was asking to be the highest paid player in the league. IMO they'd have said "no" if it wasn't the case but I could be wrong.

Other than that, sounds like they are close to signing so great news.
 

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Mack chirping Makar about not taking enough money...not sure what to think of that. This is Matthews/Marner behaviour.

Both Mack and Brisson laughed and didn't want to answer when they were asked if he was asking to be the highest paid player in the league. IMO they'd have said "no" if it wasn't the case but I could be wrong.

Other than that, sounds like they are close to signing so great news.

Leave it to you to overreact to MacKinnon ribbing his friend and teammate.
 

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Give him more than McDavid just to let him brag about it. Cap inflation is coming anyway
 

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Nah the last comment was regarding people who think Colorado is a better team this year. Nothing to do with Manson per se.

Which has everything to do with the 2C spot. Going from Naz to Rodrigues is a massive decline. Where everything else in the roster is largely equal give or take 0.5 wins in a couple spots. But going from Naz to ERod is like ~3.5 wins of lost value.


It is objectively a worse team then last year for that one switch alone.
I think you're oversimplifying, but I don't disagree to the point of saying they are better this year.

But I think when you compare starting line-up last year with this year you also have to attribute value to growth of young players and decline of older players. And I think growth in Byram and to a lesser extent Newhook shouldn't be understated.

You could easily see a situation where last year's 2nd D pairing of Girard-EJ becomes this year's 3rd pair and you had a new 2nd pairing of Byram-Manson. That isn't just comparing Manson to Jack Johnson, its a potentiel incremental improvement on each of the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th Dman.

Combined with Lehk for Bura, Meyer for Jost and Cog for... whichever AHLer played before we claimed NAK, the sum of it all is getting close to Kadri for Rodrigues and Kuemper for Georgiev in my opinion.
 

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Mack chirping Makar about not taking enough money...not sure what to think of that. This is something I'd expect from Matthews and Marner.

Both Mack and Brisson laughed and didn't want to answer when they were asked if he was asking to be the highest paid player in the league. IMO they'd have said "no" if it wasn't the case but I could be wrong.

Other than that, sounds like they are close to signing so great news.
What’s the issue on Mack’s comment about Makars deal? That gets said like 5x a day here?
 

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It isn't an opinion. It is a fact that our 2C and 3C positions are major weaknesses.

Stating our goaltending is probably worse is an opinion.

Seems people have an issue distinguishing facts from opinions.
I would agree the last year's 2C is significantly better than this year's projected 2C. Was the 3C last year significantly better than this year's projected 3C?
 

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Apart from trying to decipher hidden messages in the quotes, clearly good news overall.

I’m not too concerned about the number being unreasonably high
 
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