Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

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here's the Memorial Cup round robin schedule, updated so quickly they didn't have Petes' logo yet

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Othmann has played RW too.

And still does. He lines up at RW frequently even for the Petes. Offensively, he's hard to cover because he can rush down either side. He's not one-dimensional like Kreider is in that regard.

Sure, playing on one's off-wing isn't for eveyone, but we have players who are capable of doing so. Berard, Kakko, Sýkora, Chmelař (to name a few). And that's something that really became more frequent in recent years. Hockey has become more dynamic and less "by the numbers". It's more fluid and especially in tight games it can be an interesting tactic to use and create a mismatch.
 

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hopefully he can be our tkachuk


been a good year so far...2 world junior golds, ohl ship...would be awesome to cap it with a memorial cup. that said, while far from an expert and have really only seen clips of a few games involving seattle/kamloops, i wouldn't be surprised if those teams smoked pbo. they just have so much pace and skill, and pbo back end end especially is not very mobile. you never know, it's tough to be certain when comparing different leagues because perception is all relative to competition, but that's my read going in. hopefully i'm wrong. the q tends to appear the weakest coming in a lot of years but has won the last 3 and 6 of the last 9 so it's anyone's game. a series might have yielded different results but in a 3 game round robin and then either 1 or 2 single elimination playoff games it's just a game of survivor.
 
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But Seattle never won the Mem :(
hah i hear ya don't know their history but know the way rosters cycle through in juniors it can be a long time before a team that makes it one year can put another roster together that has a chance. some teams have a 2 or 3 year window though.

either way just messing around, othmann does only have one crack, but it could be a very long time before the next chance comes for any team. just googled out of curiosity...the saskatoon blades and tri-city americans have been around since 1967 and never won one. given the significance of that year in canada, they should probably move a town or 2 over and start fresh tbh.
 

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hah i hear ya don't know their history but know the way rosters cycle through in juniors it can be a long time before a team that makes it one year can put another roster together that has a chance. some teams have a 2 or 3 year window though.

either way just messing around, othmann does only have one crack, but it could be a very long time before the next chance comes for any team. just googled out of curiosity...the saskatoon blades and tri-city americans have been around since 1967 and never won one. given the significance of that year in canada, they should probably move a town or 2 over and start fresh tbh.

The only other Rangers prospects to win a Memorial Cup:

Corey Hirsch
David Brosseau
Christian Dubé
Martin Éthier
Daniel Bernhardt
 

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The Petes were a very resilient team in the OHL playoffs. A bend but not break find ways to win team. Of all the teams in the tournament they have the worst regular season record with 35-29-4. Seattle was 54-11-3, Quebec 53-12-3 and Kamloops 48-13-7.

Seattle is stacked with 1st rounders--Dylan Guenther, Kevin Korchinski, Brad Lambert, Reid Schaefer, Nolan Allan. Also Colton Dach a 2nd rounder. Undrafted goalie Thomas Milic led Canada to gold in the recent WJC tournament. Gracyn Sawchyn looks to be a late 1st to mid 2nd draft pick in the coming draft. They have several other drafted players and likely 2023 draft picks. It's a deep team.

Kamloops doesn't have any 1st rounders but they're pretty deep too. Logan Stankoven leads the offense and Olen Zellweger (who is probably the best defenseman in the tournament) the defense. 9 NHL draftees and probably another 2/3 who will be drafted in June.

To me those are the two favorites.
 
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Watching from afar it's interesting to see how the season played out with Othmann. Criticism that he was underwhelming in Peterborough, speculation that he was "bored" because by all measures he should have been laying pro hockey in the A this year. Then when the games started to matter he made a huge impact for a team that wasnt necessarily expected to make a deep run like this. Dare i say it's a little Tkacuk-ian :sarcasm::naughty:.

I know it's hard to see now but I have visions of Lafreniere & Othmann in the future playing the type of game for us on the left side that can drag the rest of the squad into the fight. They both just need to be given the freedom to do it.
 

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Watching from afar it's interesting to see how the season played out with Othmann. Criticism that he was underwhelming in Peterborough, speculation that he was "bored" because by all measures he should have been laying pro hockey in the A this year. Then when the games started to matter he made a huge impact for a team that wasnt necessarily expected to make a deep run like this. Dare i say it's a little Tkacuk-ian :sarcasm::naughty:.

I know it's hard to see now but I have visions of Lafreniere & Othmann in the future playing the type of game for us on the left side that can drag the rest of the squad into the fight. They both just need to be given the freedom to do it.
I have an indelible memory from the WJC. Laf had been out with a leg issue. His first shift, I believe, his first game back he ran over two opposing players on the same play in succession to create a scoring chance. I don’t even remember if it resulted in a goal. I was IMPRESSED. I think a LOT of what is going on with him is a confidence issue and him being afraid to make a mistake. As well as not being strong enough yet at 21.
 

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I have an indelible memory from the WJC. Laf had been out with a leg issue. His first shift, I believe, his first game back he ran over two opposing players on the same play in succession to create a scoring chance. I don’t even remember if it resulted in a goal. I was IMPRESSED. I think a LOT of what is going on with him is a confidence issue and him being afraid to make a mistake. As well as not being strong enough yet at 21.

Laf obliterated Marino on his first shift of his first playoff game ever. Reaves mowed down geno 30 seconds later. I was at the game. He set the tone. If the refs didn’t rewrite the rulebook on the fly to disallow the Kakko game winner (remember that?) in Game 1 how much does that series change. Laf also scored the momentum swinging goal in game 5. If the next coach empowers him he’ll be a weapon. It’s disappointing that fans want him gone already.
 

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I have an indelible memory from the WJC. Laf had been out with a leg issue. His first shift, I believe, his first game back he ran over two opposing players on the same play in succession to create a scoring chance. I don’t even remember if it resulted in a goal. I was IMPRESSED. I think a LOT of what is going on with him is a confidence issue and him being afraid to make a mistake. As well as not being strong enough yet at 21.

remember that as well...came off that bench looking to lay the wood on someone. can see it in this video first thing they show. also has a nice assist on the forecheck and the shot he should still be taking at like the 3:30 mark...that's his office on the pp.


and then in the semis he scored canada's 4th on the exact same shot from the same spot. also had canada's 2nd with a silky finish in tight on an odd man rush when he was full of confidence.


he was so dominant that tournament. wasn't just the offense he generated, he was physically dominant and the heartbeat of that canadian team. when he went down early against russia they got annihilated, and a totally different story in the gold medal game. i agree a big part of his underwhelming production is confidence, i don't agree it's a fear of making a mistake. i see that a lot about him, and it implies he's been restricted from being the player he wants to be, which just isn't true. succeeding at new and higher levels is just a challenge for different reasons for different players at different levels. he needs to fully commit to the putting in the work to start. would certainly help to have a coach that can get the best out of him, but he's the only one that controls his future. i don't think gallant did anything to hold him back, but i do think a different personality can get more out of him sooner. the only thing i disagreed with on gallant was putting him net front on the pp...didn't hurt him, but wasn't where he was best suited.
 

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remember that as well...came off that bench looking to lay the wood on someone. can see it in this video first thing they show. also has a nice assist on the forecheck and the shot he should still be taking at like the 3:30 mark...that's his office on the pp.


and then in the semis he scored canada's 4th on the exact same shot from the same spot. also had canada's 2nd with a silky finish in tight on an odd man rush when he was full of confidence.


he was so dominant that tournament. wasn't just the offense he generated, he was physically dominant and the heartbeat of that canadian team. when he went down early against russia they got annihilated, and a totally different story in the gold medal game. i agree a big part of his underwhelming production is confidence, i don't agree it's a fear of making a mistake. i see that a lot about him, and it implies he's been restricted from being the player he wants to be, which just isn't true. succeeding at new and higher levels is just a challenge for different reasons for different players at different levels. he needs to fully commit to the putting in the work to start. would certainly help to have a coach that can get the best out of him, but he's the only one that controls his future. i don't think gallant did anything to hold him back, but i do think a different personality can get more out of him sooner. the only thing i disagreed with on gallant was putting him net front on the pp...didn't hurt him, but wasn't where he was best suited.
I get you, but really he wasn’t given the free reign to make mistakes, at least in my view, that top picks usually get and I definitely believe it’s held him back. I also agree he should step up his regimen off season. He needs to be stronger.
 
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remember that as well...came off that bench looking to lay the wood on someone. can see it in this video first thing they show. also has a nice assist on the forecheck and the shot he should still be taking at like the 3:30 mark...that's his office on the pp.


and then in the semis he scored canada's 4th on the exact same shot from the same spot. also had canada's 2nd with a silky finish in tight on an odd man rush when he was full of confidence.


he was so dominant that tournament. wasn't just the offense he generated, he was physically dominant and the heartbeat of that canadian team. when he went down early against russia they got annihilated, and a totally different story in the gold medal game. i agree a big part of his underwhelming production is confidence, i don't agree it's a fear of making a mistake. i see that a lot about him, and it implies he's been restricted from being the player he wants to be, which just isn't true. succeeding at new and higher levels is just a challenge for different reasons for different players at different levels. he needs to fully commit to the putting in the work to start. would certainly help to have a coach that can get the best out of him, but he's the only one that controls his future. i don't think gallant did anything to hold him back, but i do think a different personality can get more out of him sooner. the only thing i disagreed with on gallant was putting him net front on the pp...didn't hurt him, but wasn't where he was best suited.

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