Speculation: 2022-2023 General Lightning Discussion - Part 2

[These Are The Days]

Coop needs to just bench/rest Vasy and Heddy at this point. Give them a week off. I'm serious. Don't even practice them. Just healthy scratch them both because their performance has been lacking. If they're hurt they can rehab. If they're mentally taxed, they can get into a better head space.

We gave up way too much this TDL to not win it all because the 2 guys we need most are. Well. Doing what they're doing right now

 

[Stormbreaker]

Coop gonna Coop

 

[Stammertime91]

Jeannot getting demoted is telling. Especially when it's Maroon promoted to the 3rd, the same nonsense that made you look elsewhere at the TDL.

 

[FinnLightning26]

Ah, the Stamkos - Cirelli - Killorn line is back. They were so great before you just knew they were getting reunited.

I love how Maroon keeps getting promoted while being absolutely useless 99% of the season.

 

[These Are The Days]

Coop gonna Coop

I miss Gourde and McDonagh

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[Zwui21]

Coop gonna Coop

Back to having a useless 2nd line at 5v5

 

[Lightning1995]

Coop gonna Coop

What a disaster, couldn’t give the lines we liked more than 2-3 games. Oh and Jeannot is a bust

 

[DistantThunderRep]

What a disaster, couldn’t give the lines we liked more than 2-3 games. Oh and Jeannot is a bust

So is that Hagel guy...f*** that guy too.

 

[Stammertime91]

So is that Hagel guy...f*** that guy too.

Agreed. Not even a 40 goal guy.

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Sorry Diandra, you get watch the suck.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I wonder if JBB could convince someone like Hardy Häman Aktell to sign for us. He would be a solid young cheap LD option from Växjö. Big frame, good skater, plays all situations as a TWD. Having a real good season in Växjö. Guy would be everything we need to shore up the left side third pairing.

Hedman - Bogo
Sergachev - Perbix
Aktell - Cernak

Looks good to me.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

I'm fine if people wanna shit on this take, but I just don't see it this year. I guess they can "flip the switch" (which is becoming dumb) but they simply aren't better than most teams like they've been the past three years. They'll have to elevate their game and play their absolute best to survive. This reminds me more of the pre 2019 squads.

Sorry. Just not seeing it.

 

[Sky04]

I'm fine if people wanna shit on this take, but I just don't see it this year. I guess they can "flip the switch" (which is becoming dumb) but they simply aren't better than most teams like they've been the past three years. They'll have to elevate their game and play their absolute best to survive. This reminds me more of the pre 2019 squads.

Sorry. Just not seeing it.

The ones that made the CF every single year?

 

[Flat Ronnie]

The ones that made the CF every single year?

I think you understand my point. Those teams had to overachieve. They got taken out by better teams like Washington, Pittsburgh and Chicago.

 

[Point21]

as it sits right now, id be shocked to see us push 7 games against Toronto. Maybe they can turn it around these last 9 games and at least look like they wanna do something in the playoffs, but if the last 20+ games are any sign of whats to come... Id start preparing for a very long offseason. If they do get bounced in round 1 then maybe a retool wouldnt be so bad. Trim the fat and look to the young guys or look overseas for some cheap FA guys that could fit the mold of what this team is...

I think JBB passing on picking up a depth dman or even a bottom pairing guy is gonna come back to haunt us

 

[Flat Ronnie]

as it sits right now, id be shocked to see us push 7 games against Toronto. Maybe they can turn it around these last 9 games and at least look like they wanna do something in the playoffs, but if the last 20+ games are any sign of whats to come... Id start preparing for a very long offseason. If they do get bounced in round 1 then maybe a retool wouldnt be so bad. Trim the fat and look to the young guys or look overseas for some cheap FA guys that could fit the mold of what this team is...

I think JBB passing on picking up a depth dman or even a bottom pairing guy is gonna come back to haunt us

I dont think a depth defenseman is the difference maker here...

 

[Point21]

I dont think a depth defenseman is the difference maker here...

maybe not depth, but a guy like Mayfield, Edmundson, or even Ghost

 

[Flat Ronnie]

maybe not depth, but a guy like Mayfield, Edmundson, or even Ghost

What you're describing is more of a "missing piece." I don't even think the team is at that level.

 

[Lightning1995]

Let’s see what the Toronto series looks like before burying this team

 

[JTBF81]

It's hard to see how a team that was playing mostly good, high level hockey entering the all-star break(winning 8 out of 10, 32-15-1 record) has all but disappeared for now basically an entire 3rd of a season(10-10-5 since). It's not as though the team has been riddled with injuries like the '17 group was, so this precipitous drop in every facet of their game, for now this long of a stretch, is bewildering. You would think they'd have a little more pride and/or self respect out there to not get embarrassed as many times as they have(against some less than great teams at that), but it's clear they just don't give a damn about basically any of these games. I refuse to believe that in essentially one month and change, that they went from looking like a top 5 team in the league to a lottery team, because they are actually that bad now. That kind of decline just usually doesn't happen that quickly without key injuries.

 

[Stammertime91]

I'm not sure JBB was wrong in not acquiring a defenseman. I'd rather not have Jeannot and those 5 picks though. Maybe grabbing a defenseman was the right play initially but at least we didn't jettison the last two picks we have until 2028 and Howard.

 

[Sky04]

People would just be making up excuses for the new defenseman anyways, it's not a personel issue and besides we have no assets or cap to grab a decent defenseman. What exactly are we upgrading on? Cole? He's fine for what he is, our problem is our #1 guy who plays 25mins a night sucks.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

Don't forget Perry and Patty being ass