Speculation: 2022-2023 General Lightning Discussion - Part 2

[Stormbreaker]

I'd say he isn't done

 

[FinnLightning26]

This trade is awful for us. f***.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Always appreciative to Jake McCabe for forcing Sergachev to fight him in the middle of the 2019-2020 season in Buffalo. Really helped spark us at a time when we weren't even in a wildcard position.

 

[JTBF81]

Yeah, seeing what they got McCabe@50% and Lafferty for, I 100% would've rather done that trade than Jeannot. I had offered alot more than that in mock trades for those two and was shut down. It would've addressed the blueline and bottom 6 for at least 2 seasons.

 

[Zwui21]

Good thing if we still wanna get a Dman, is that there seems to be a surplus of Dmen on the market this deadline, at the point where some team won't be able to find a trade partner.
If that's the case, JBB could wait for the last moment at the deadline and trade cheap for sone rental that otherwise wouldn't have moved and the team would have lost to UFA

 

[RussianGuyovich]

another left handed defenseman? really? thats who you all want?

 

[JTBF81]

McCabe would also have helped replace Cole, who I can't see re-signing because of cap space limitations. For this run, McCabe would've provided solid depth, and with Cole being able to play the right as well, a little more flexibility. I like Jeannot and what he brings, just think for the value Toronto paid for both, I would've been pretty good with it had Tampa made this deal.

 

[Stormbreaker]

What RHD are out there that can be had for a pick or 2 or 3? Asking for a friend.

 

[Stammertime91]

Lafferty has a whopping 10 goals, 4 shorthanded. Let's pump the breaks that he's 2016 Bonino or Gourde. He's good and helps them, but I'm not worried. McCabe on the other hand I've never been impressed with, at all.

They did well, but the biggest move that affects us is the one with ROR and Acciari. I think we need to seriously consider emptying what's left for another bottom 6 player and a RD. Send Murray, Vinik, whatever is left and able to be traded.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Go get Schenn if you can.

 

[JTBF81]

I'm sure JBB will make at least one more move for a dman, as they can't think.having Fleury, Myers, and Raddysh as your playoff depth is going to cut it. I'd be pretty happy with a Seeler/TVR type add, and if possible, a 4C like Bjugstad. It would provide better blue line depth in case of injury and would allow Tampa to only need to play one of Maroon/Names/PEB on the 4th line(would guess one of Names/PEB would be moved/waived in this case).

 

[JTBF81]

What RHD are out there that can be had for a pick or 2 or 3? Asking for a friend.

The best targets for Tampa imo are either Nick Seeler or TVR. Seeler makes 775k this year and next, can play either side, and has 2nd pairing ability. TVR is a ufa at 950k this year, but he also can eat minutes and be a #4 type. For a.3rd pairing/#7 type, there could be guys like Stecher, Holden, Brown, Braun etc. Schenn would be in that 3rd pairing range with upside, but I think Tampa is out on him due to price. Jensen would probably be the best option, but as a straight rental and a likely prohibitive price tag, I can't see Tampa being in on him.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

The best targets for Tampa imo are either Nick Seeler or TVR. Seeler makes 775k this year and next, can play either side, and has 2nd pairing ability. TVR is a ufa at 950k this year, but he also can eat minutes and be a #4 type. For a.3rd pairing/#7 type, there could be guys like Stecher, Holden, Brown, Braun etc. Schenn would be in that 3rd pairing range with upside, but I think Tampa is out on him due to price. Jensen would probably be the best option, but as a straight rental and a likely prohibitive price tag, I can't see Tampa being in on him.

Agreed on all except Jensen. He's a puck mover, don't really need him. Someone like Bortuzzo is also interesting and probably a cheap pick up.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Yea solidify the d anyway you can. They said f the draft so why not.

 

[JTBF81]

Agreed on all except Jensen. He's a puck mover, don't really need him. Someone like Bortuzzo is also interesting and probably a cheap pick up.

I saw William Borgen as another name mentioned, but since I didn't expect Seattle to be selling, I hadn't really considered him. The same would hold true with Walman from Detroit.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I saw William Borgen as another name mentioned, but since I didn't expect Seattle to be selling, I hadn't really considered him. The same would hold true with Walman from Detroit.

I don't see Yzesus giving up Walman cheap. Borgen would be good too, but its hard to figure out what Seattle's plan is.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

Let's talk about what the move does to the lineup. Does it move Paul up? Does it create a heavy line of Paul - Cirelli - Jeannot?

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Let's talk about what the move does to the lineup. Does it move Paul up? Does it create a heavy line of Paul - Cirelli - Jeannot?

If its the Heavy Line, its Jeannot - Paul - Maroon. But what I suspect the line up with look like now.

Hagel - Point - Kuch
Stammer - Cirelli - Killorn
Jeannot - Paul - Colton
Perry - Bellemare/Namestnikov - Maroon

I don't think Jeannot even gets put on the powerplay either. Even though he would be great on PP2 with him parked in front of the net.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

If its the Heavy Line, its Jeannot - Paul - Maroon. But what I suspect the line up with look like now.

Hagel - Point - Kuch
Stammer - Cirelli - Killorn
Jeannot - Paul - Colton
Perry - Bellemare/Namestnikov - Maroon

I don't think Jeannot even gets put on the powerplay either. Even though he would be great on PP2 with him parked in front of the net.

But don't we want a shutdown line and doesn't Cirelli give us the best shot at that?

 

[LightningStrikes]

That’s a lot of new guys in in Toronto. Quite the shakeup in the locker room. On paper they’re better but who knows how it’ll pan out on the ice with 22 games to figure out line combos and build some chemistry.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

But don't we want a shutdown line and doesn't Cirelli give us the best shot at that?

Ideally I want Paul back up with Stammer and Killorn. That line worked so well earlier in the season. Pulling Paul away from Stammer and Killorn kind of stopped their production. Coop wants Cirelli in the top 6 for some reason. Colton and Stammer in my mind doesn't work.

Stammer - Paul - Killorn
Jeannot - Cirelli - Colton

That's the ideal look, but you know Coop gon' Coop.

 

[The Macho King]

TVR = give us the Cup.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

It was @Point21Gaming after I brought up Trenin

I mentioned Jeannot (for Colton) a week before that.

 

[DaBolts]

This Jake McCabe? Okie dokey then...

 

[Stormbreaker]