Rumor: 2022-2023 Free Agency and Trade Rumors: STILL searching for a 2C

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I'd personally we use it this year and it would be ideal to have a guy who is here for a bit. Windows are way too short to waste years and the Avs are on their way to that... but they have the ability to change that. This team isn't that far off. 2C, good middle 6 5v5 goal guy, and maybe a depth defensemen. Maybe you have to sacrifice the middle 6 guy (or better yet Landy and Nuke come back and don't skip a beat to eliminate it), and don't go nuts on the defensemen.. but Avs have the assets to do that.

I'm having a hard time seeing a clear set of possibilities especially with the extra cost involved in just moving salary around to fit someone mid season.

I see a lot more options for long term solutions in the off season if we have the pick.
 

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I'm having a hard time seeing a clear set of possibilities especially with the extra cost involved in just moving salary around to fit someone mid season.

I see a lot more options for long term solutions in the off season if we have the pick.
I don't see it as any better... it might actually be worse. With MacK's doubling, there is hardly room to begin with and while Byram and Newhook haven't earned big raises (so far), they will likely get some. Then you have the losses of ERod, Compher, Cogs, and EJ... EJ is a good thing, but the Avs will want to replace the depth RD and will want to spend some money on that. Compher and ERod are 2/3 of a 3rd line that isn't exactly cheap either. The cap is just kinda a mess next year, and yeah you can move some pieces around.... you can also do that this year to the teams that are dealing players.
 
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I don't see it as any better... it might actually be worse. With MacK's doubling, there is hardly room to begin with and while Byram and Newhook haven't earned big raises (so far), they will likely get some. Then you have the losses of ERod, Compher, Cogs, and EJ... EJ is a good thing, but the Avs will want to replace the depth RD and will want to spend some money on that. Compher and ERod are 2/3 of a 3rd line that isn't exactly cheap either. The cap is just kinda a mess next year, and yeah you can move some pieces around.... you can also do that this year to the teams that are dealing players.

If they fill the right hole, actually getting some of those solved mid season would be a lot easier in price, and salary.
 

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They should solve the top six, 3C, and top four definitively in the off season. The rest get where ever you can whenever.

I don't see spending the assets to prop up a 1st round exit.

If the right deal presents itself between now and the TDL sure, I don't see it. I don't even know how many backflips they're going to have to do to add one good player. One..
 

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I'm not sure what to say about this Pettersson/Rantanen discussion. What is it supposed to accomplish? Why do we always want to make moves that open different huge holes in the lineup?
It's called a salary cap. You have to make choices.
 
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Why do guys play for cheap in Boston? Like why couldn’t MacK take a team friendly deal to help us compete for more years? Kind of pisses me off and makes Bergeron look like 10x the man and leader lol
 

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Why do guys play for cheap in Boston? Like why couldn’t MacK take a team friendly deal to help us compete for more years? Kind of pisses me off and makes Bergeron look like 10x the man and leader lol
It's a fair criticism. I think Bergeron seen the value in grinding it out and scoring through his wingers.

That dude just knows how to set the table.
 
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It's a fair criticism. I think Bergeron seen the value in grinding it out and scoring through his wingers.

That dude just knows how to set the table.
like… it’s already established MacK won’t carry shit. And now our depth is screwed next year. Meanwhile Boston has Bergeron and Krejci on sweetheart deals, and they can put Taylor hall on their 3rd line. In the cap era.
 

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It's for that reason MacK can't be captain. He's a bullet mentally and physically. It's fine, none of them are over paid.
 
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I have a feeling we won't be worried about Mack's contract though. He'll bring it for most of it. So it can be planned around long term. He earned it, like so few of these young guys do. That's what MacK does he earns his keep at a high level. Him being a silent leader is perfect for him. In order to lead that way you need to be first in nearly everything that matters though.

I respect the kid
 
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I have a feeling we won't be worried about Mack's contract though. He'll bring it for most of it. So it can be planned around long term. He earned it, like so few of these young guys do. That's what MacK does he earns his keep at a high level. Him being a silent leader is perfect for him. In order to lead that way you need to be first in nearly everything that matters though.

I respect the kid

I wouldn't call Mack a kid. But I'm more worried about what Rantanen will demand now. Ketchup he loves demands lots of the world's fanciest Kobe beef, over and over again
 
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It's kind of outrageous to complain about this given how long the Avs had an elite player making 6.3 million a year.
He was worth 6.3 when he signed though, he didn’t take some sort of discount. Now his contract is going to hamstring us and we are gonna lose a lot of depth next year. It’s an absolutely valid complaint if guys in Boston are all on sweetheart deals but dudes like MacK and McDavid just want to get paid
 

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He was worth 6.3 when he signed though, he didn’t take some sort of discount. Now his contract is going to hamstring us and we are gonna lose a lot of depth next year. It’s an absolutely valid complaint if guys in Boston are all on sweetheart deals but dudes like MacK and McDavid just want to get paid


So what? Bergeron is older. He's already made his money. Sorry but this is just crybaby nonsense.
 

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He was worth 6.3 when he signed though, he didn’t take some sort of discount. Now his contract is going to hamstring us and we are gonna lose a lot of depth next year. It’s an absolutely valid complaint if guys in Boston are all on sweetheart deals but dudes like MacK and McDavid just want to get paid
Bergeron is 37. Let's see what sort of a cap hit our top guys get at that age. His last cap hit was over 10% of his teams cap. Pasta is a ufa next year too, let's see what he takes.
 

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He was worth 6.3 when he signed though, he didn’t take some sort of discount. Now his contract is going to hamstring us and we are gonna lose a lot of depth next year. It’s an absolutely valid complaint if guys in Boston are all on sweetheart deals but dudes like MacK and McDavid just want to get paid
I mean McAvoy is making 9.5 and Pasta is about to be making 11+. Idk why we're complaining about a pretty reasonable UFA contract signing from Mack.
 

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If we were to move on from Rants (we won't) but IF then that'd be the guy to keep. Probably can have him for under 4M AAV and keep him on the first line.


It’s just not going to happen. Trading Rantanen is like trading MacKinnon. The Avs aren’t going to do it.

I don’t think Rodrigues presence, or lack there of really has any impact on that. He’s light years away from bringing that kind of impact. He’s been getting 1st line ice-time all season and has produced at about the level you’d expect for a player of his caliber.
 
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No it's not.

Finding a 1C is nearly impossible. Finding a 1W is fairly easy.

This is like saying Cale Makar is a 1D. Rantanen is a lot more than just a 1st line winger. His impact is obviously greater than what that would be league wide. Good luck finding Mikko Rantanen’s elsewhere.

I’d trade Rantanen before MacKinnon because of the positions they play, but Mikko is not that far back of Nate and he scores way more goals.
 

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Should sign Erod longer term to keep the Cap hit down like 6 years 3.5m. Guys been a gem and fits our system very well. Now he's developing chemistry with Mack
 
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