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Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Coyotes Prospect General Discussion and Stats Weekly Update

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Doan really needs to get some help at ASU, it's basically him and Mastrisimone (spelling?) and that is it, from a talent stand point. Although the goalie Sempthahelter (spelling?) seems to be a really good goalie.

Hope they can get up the talent over the next couple years so by the time he's a senior, he can get back up to over a ppg
 
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Freddy Sjostrom said:
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Interesting that the first and last teams both won the Cup recently. What would also be relevant to know is how many picks each team had and what percentage of their picks made the show. Rebuilding teams would usually have more picks, and if done right, would lead to more success.
 
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Interesting that the first and last teams both won the Cup recently. What would also be relevant to know is how many picks each team had and what percentage of their picks made the show. Rebuilding teams would usually have more picks, and if done right, would lead to more success.
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So it's like faceoffs, yeah? It matters...sort of....:naughty:
 
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I was curious…should not have looked.
2010
5th round- Louis Domingue (84 gms)
2011
Nada- 5 picks, no hits
2012
7th round- Marek Langhamer (2 gms)
2013
5th round- Connor Clifton - Bruins
2014
4th round- Michael Bunting (26 gms)
5th round- Dysin Mayo (80 gms)
2015
3rd round- Kyle Copabianco (59 gms)
3rd round- Adin Hill (49 gms)
5th round- Conor Garland (164 gms)
7th round- Erik Kallgren - Toronto
2016
3rd round- Cam Dineen (34 gms)
2017
Nada, 7 picks, no hits
2018
3rd round- Jan Jenik (16 gms)
4th round- Ivan Prosvetov (6 gms)
2019
4th round- Matias Macelli (56 gms)
2020
7th round- Ben McCartney (2 gms)
 
Freddy Sjostrom said:
I was curious…should not have looked.
2010
5th round- Louis Domingue (84 gms)
2011
Nada- 5 picks, no hits
2012
7th round- Marek Langhamer (2 gms)
2013
5th round- Connor Clifton - Bruins
2014
4th round- Michael Bunting (26 gms)
5th round- Dysin Mayo (80 gms)
2015
3rd round- Kyle Copabianco (59 gms)
3rd round- Adin Hill (49 gms)
5th round- Conor Garland (164 gms)
7th round- Erik Kallgren - Toronto
2016
3rd round- Cam Dineen (34 gms)
2017
Nada, 7 picks, no hits
2018
3rd round- Jan Jenik (16 gms)
4th round- Ivan Prosvetov (6 gms)
2019
4th round- Matias Macelli (56 gms)
2020
7th round- Ben McCartney (2 gms)
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I don't think the games have to be played by the franchise that drafted them. Garland, Hill, Bunting, and maybe others have played more.

But as I mentioned earlier, number of picks obviously matters. Total number of games played should be divided by total picks to give you games played per pick, a more relevant draft effectiveness/efficiency number.

I don't want to do the research to find out though. :)
 
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I don't think the games have to be played by the franchise that drafted them. Garland, Hill, Bunting, and maybe others have played more.

But as I mentioned earlier, number of picks obviously matters. Total number of games played should be divided by total picks to give you games played per pick, a more relevant draft effectiveness/efficiency number.

I don't want to do the research to find out though. :)
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You are right, they have. Gms played was only Coyote games. Right again, that would be a better indicator. There could be teams ahead of the Coyotes with 5 more guys that only played one game for example. It’s still remarkable what the Lightning and those top teams were able to do, 3000+ games after the second round is legit.
 
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JasonDemersWasOkay said:
Let’s just all hope that this new crop of prospects fares better.. 2017 in particular is pretty painful
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Ah yes, the Coyotes money puck era, where advanced stats saved the day, only it didn't. Didn't really work for the Oakland A's either.
 
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Let’s just all hope that this new crop of prospects fares better.. 2017 in particular is pretty painful
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Ahh, I forgot 3rd rounded McKenzie Entwistle from that draft. He has 100+ gms with Chicago. I thought Tyler Steenbergen might hit after a 100 point season and playing on Canada’s WJC team. He’s still playing in Finland.
 
Freddy Sjostrom said:
You are right, they have. Gms played was only Coyote games. Right again, that would be a better indicator. There could be teams ahead of the Coyotes with 5 more guys that only played one game for example. It’s still remarkable what the Lightning and those top teams were able to do, 3000+ games after the second round is legit.
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It is legit, but just to throw more cold water on the data, the timing matters too. The study is over a 10 yr period. Successful players picked earlier during that 10 yr period will have had more opportunity to rack up games played.

For example, half of the games played for Tampa came from just three players drafted between 2010-14, Gudas, Palat, and Point.

Just for fun, I counted how many 3-7 Rd picks Tampa and AZ had from 2010-20. As you can see, the Lightening had a HUGE advantage. :rolleyes:

59 Tampa
58 Arizona
 
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Jérémy Langlois’ playmaking touch is better than it was last year and, because of it, he’s picking up even points. He attracts more defenders on himself before moving the puck and has more elaborate ideas, especially on the powerplay.

The forecheck can still force him into poor decisions, however, and it’s hard to distinguish his development curve from an average, top QMJHL defenceman. Langlois is dominant at this level; he will certainly help the Québec Remparts win playoff rounds, but the lack of standout attributes in his game will hurt him at higher levels. As he won’t always be the default powerplay quarterback, he will have to work to solidify his shutdown game and becomes more efficient with the puck.
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rt said:
What do they say about this first bullet point?



^ I want to subscribe to EP but they make me angry about as often as they inform me. It’s like 50/50 love/hate and I can’t bring myself to give them money. Haha.
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they really like Moore's game.
 
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Szuber makes Germany’s U-25 team. They will be playing friendlies against Slovakia through Friday.
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He played fairly well in the first game and scored on his shootout attempt (something he is really good at).

Overall it was not a great game to watch, but Szuber was mostly solid, though I had hoped for a little more offense and a little more initiative from him, but his focus appeared to be more on defense, which is understandable as he was paired with Mario Zimmermann who is an offensive dman.
 
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He played fairly well in the first game and scored on his shootout attempt (something he is really good at).

Overall it was not a great game to watch, but Szuber was mostly solid, though I had hoped for a little more offense and a little more initiative from him, but his focus appeared to be more on defense, which is understandable as he was paired with Mario Zimmermann who is an offensive dman.
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Thanks @Maverick41 From the video I saw, looks like he was playing RHD. He skates really well for a big man. If you see how he plays today, pls let us know.
 
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Thanks @Maverick41 From the video I saw, looks like he was playing RHD. He skates really well for a big man. If you see how he plays today, pls let us know.
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You're welcome.
I will probably not be able to watch the game live today, but in that case I will watch the VOD either tomorrow or on Saturday.
And I will focus a little more closely on Szuber to give a more detailed report.
 
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