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Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Coyotes Prospect General Discussion and Stats Weekly Update

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rt said:
Maybe they’ll trade Savoie, Geekie and Benson? I assume they don’t have great prospects coming up because of strong standings results and making big splashes?
I really can’t say I know much about rebuilding and contention windows in the CHL.
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Winnipeg needs a new arena for their junior team. They don't even have a whisper of a plan just yet. something to keep an eye on.
 
hbk said:
i haven't liked his game recently. He also isn't getting Bensen, Savoie, even Nash's kid as linemates these days either.
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Must be a reason. Did BA screw up on this pick?

hbk said:
Winnipeg needs a new arena for their junior team. They don't even have a whisper of a plan just yet. something to keep an eye on.
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Didn't they just move there?
 
Jakey53 said:
Must be a reason. Did BA screw up on this pick?


Didn't they just move there?
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Geekie is a project. So was his brother. I am raising a red flag but he is going to be given all the time he needs to develop. If he turns out you have a 6’4” 230 lb power center.

Yes. Ice moved ti Wpg about 3 years ago. They play out of the U of Manitoba (where i went to school) but no plans yet for a new rink.
 
JasonDemersWasOkay said:
If I’m BA I’m pushing Winnipeg to trade Geekie. They got him on the 4th line!
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He's definitely lost his spot as 2C to Ostapchuk. I think he's probably 3C not 4C.
He's getting PK time and is not consistently on PP1.

Kinda disappointing, but important to not equate this with him failing and might be fully explained by circumstances.
 
To me, Geekie is Dylan Strome 2.0 until he proves otherwise. Big, skilled guy that plays C, puts up lots of point on a super talented team. Not a great skater. Not great work rate. And he does not score at anywhere the rate Strome did.
 
Strome is a 2C in the NHL. That's pretty much what we're hoping Geekie can be.

There are differences though. Geekie is a feature on the pk. Last season he had an elite 5v5 scoring rate, outpacing players that had more points than him. I suspect this season isn't much different.

Also, Strome would have risen to the level of NHL 1C if he had the desire to work on his weaknesses. Let's hope that Geekie has more drive. We know Bill's methods are thorough and that he really wanted Geekie.
 

Stock Steady​

Conor Geekie, C, Winnipeg Ice (Arizona Coyotes)​

Zach Benson is Winnipeg’s play-driver. By now, that much is clear. Conor Geekie has an argument as the team’s second-most dynamic player, however. He’s an imaginative puck carrier and playmaker, just as capable of beating an opponent with a slick deke as he is a pass. He also has a penchant for well-timed steals.

However, Geekie’s production remains at the same level as last season, as does his game. That is, it’s good, but it falls short of the levels expected from a player with his skill. He still lacks the precision playmaking and puck protection mechanics that will be required for him to find success in the NHL. To his credit, he’s become a much better off-puck player in the offensive end, coupling his space-finding ability with his shot to become more of a goalscoring threat. He’s still tracking as a potential middle-six centre in the NHL.

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WHL Stock Watch: Lukas Dragicevic scoring at an historic clip from the blue line for Tri-City

While the World Juniors were occupying the spotlight, the WHL went on. In that time, the gap between the top and bottom teams expanded, with Winnipeg, Red Deer, Saskatoon, and Moose...
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Stock Rising​

Logan Cooley, C, Minnesota (Arizona Coyotes)​

We've talked a lot about Logan Cooley in this space, and rightly so. Still, we'll keep this one brief. He's a singularly skilled centre with the sort of creativity we usually associate with only the sport's very best. Cooley's been an absolute rock star at Minnesota with his play, and though he started slowly, he eventually played every bit as well in the red, white, and blue at the World Juniors.

If ever there was any doubt, Cooley is looking like a one-and-done with the Gophers and a future star with the Coyotes. What a talent.

Stock Falling​

Josh Doan, C, Arizona State University (Arizona Coyotes)​

It looked like Josh Doan was well on his way to rewarding the giant leap of faith that the Coyotes took when they drafted him 37th overall in the 2021 NHL Draft, several rounds ahead of where the public sphere consensus (such as one exists) expected him to go. We didn't even have him ranked at Elite Prospects. Shows what we know. He scored at better than a point a game clip as a freshman on a Sun Devils team that wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire, if you'll pardon the pun.

Arizona State head coach Greg Powers awarded Doan the captain's C ahead of this season, and the expectation was that he'd take another step forward in his development. For his part, Doan generated offence at a respectable clip through the first two months of the season, and then December happened. The Coyotes prospect only put up two points through six contests, bringing his per-game output to only about 70 percent of what it was last year.

It has to be said that Arizona State's taken a bit of a step back as a team this year, but that's not the only reason Doan's production has fallen. He's struggling to generate anything off the rush, being easily driven outside on straight-line attacks and failing to register passing options when pressured. Doan often tries to turn the corner on opposing defencemen but lacks the speed to do so effectively. When he opts for a handling move, it's often from a glide, and he's easily stopped.

At his best, Doan's been a fierce forechecker and a reliable defensive centre for the Sun Devils, combining professional-level habits and an unrelenting motor to take out opponents. They need a lot more from him than that to do any damage down the stretch, though.

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NCAA Stock Watch: Tristan Broz has found his game again at Denver

The NCAA prospect Stock Watch zeroes in on the play of Tristan Broz, Michael Benning, Logan Cooley, Rutger McGroarty, Adam Ingram, and Josh Doan.
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Geekie was always a project pick. Upside is what every team desires a big 200 foot center. We just saw a report recently that Buffalo was willing to dump a similar project pick in Tage Thompson for a 5th rounder when he didn't arrive as a player as expected. We need similar patience here. He's signed. He's the stock purchase you made that you need to sit in the drawer for 4-5 years and you go "holy shit" look at this. We knew this wasn't going to be a straight line progression but this is why you have a development staff. He's signed. Earn your money.
 
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hbk said:
Geekie was always a project pick. Upside is what every team desires a big 200 foot center. We just saw a report recently that Buffalo was willing to dump a similar project pick in Tage Thompson for a 5th rounder when he didn't arrive as a player as expected. We need similar patience here. He's signed. He's the stock purchase you made that you need to sit in the drawer for 4-5 years and you go "holy shit" look at this. We knew this wasn't going to be a straight line progression but this is why you have a development staff. He's signed. Earn your money.
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So accurate. I would say plenty of patience required for Doan, too. Latest of late bloomers. And he’s in a very small program.
 
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rt said:
Geekie can skate twice as well as Strome ever could. He just often doesn’t. :)

He’s only got one problem; consistency. That’s it.
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Most kids jumping to the NHL have consistency problems, but high end draft picks playing junior in their D1 year shouldn't, or at least it should be far and few between. So, if his inconsistency is much less than last year it would be a step in the right direction. I was not a fan of this pick in the first place. As usual, time will tell.
 
MIGs Dog said:
I was wondering why they were giving him so much space and then realized it was a 5 on 3.
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I don't care if it was 5 on 1 that was pretty.


I remember after the first few games the main board was like "haha Cooley's not even better than Snuggerud". Maybe they were right but the list of players better than him is looking shorter every day.
 
Now I wasn’t around for Wheeler, Turris or Boedker’s prospect days but is it safe to say that Cooley is the most talented prospect in franchise history? Previously I would’ve said Domi or Keller as they had many eye-popping moments before graduating.
 
JasonDemersWasOkay said:
Now I wasn’t around for Wheeler, Turris or Boedker’s prospect days but is it safe to say that Cooley is the most talented prospect in franchise history? Previously I would’ve said Domi or Keller as they had many eye-popping moments before graduating.
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Against that list. Yes. I don’t even think it’s debatable
 
Strome at the time may have been considered a better prospect. He was number one on The Hockey News or some other publications list the year after his draft (they didn't count McDavid and Eichel since the made the leap).
 
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Grimes said:
Strome at the time may have been considered a better prospect. He was number one on The Hockey News or some other publications list the year after his draft (they didn't count McDavid and Eichel since the made the leap).
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Fair. Strome never had the dynamic element to his game though. His stat sheet at the end of the night was the wow factor.
 
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