2022-2023 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

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Majorityof1

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I think I read something wrong. My eyes don't work like they use to anymore.

I had to open in a new window and zoom in a good bit on my 17 inch laptop screen. Good luck on a phone. The upper right corner says something like "Look at the seat next to Rosen" and then next to Rosen is another "Look at..." After hoping around the picture 7-8 times, look at the light blue carpet in the lower left hand corner. It says the Blues All star will be announced Thursday night.
 

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I, like most of us, like the contributions of Calle Rosen so far. I hope he has continued success/.

I didn't like the fact that he didn't have a single hit in the Toronto game of January 3, 2023. a game in which the Blues had a team total of 52 hits. Rosen played 12 minutes in the game.
 

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I, like most of us, like the contributions of Calle Rosen so far. I hope he has continued success/.

I didn't like the fact that he didn't have a single hit in the Toronto game of January 3, 2023. a game in which the Blues had a team total of 52 hits. Rosen played 12 minutes in the game.
I am more impressed by D that take a hit they know is coming and make a good smart play anyway
he seems to do that so far, although with more limited usage
 

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Interesting chart. The Blues are the worst team in the league at denying zone entries.

Makes sense. We lost a ton of size and reach over the years. And just based on eye test, Leddy defends well, but his style is more to keep up with their skating and keep them to the outside, so I'd expect him to basically be an open door on zone entries. Someone like Krug is likely an open door just due to lack of size and plus skating ability.
 

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Interesting chart. The Blues are the worst team in the league at denying zone entries.

between not holding the line and giving away the d-zone above the faceoff circles, every team entering the blues' zone is like:
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Since 11/14, Kyrou is 4th in points, Buch is 19th, and Thomas is 22nd.
Kyrou's on a 43 goal, 86 point pace over the season as a whole. He'll probably miss a few more games with small stuff, so I think he's probably a long-ish shot to hit 90 points. But he's got a really good chance to be a 40+ goal and 80+ point player this year. He's going to end the season with a really rough looking +/-, but natural stat trick has him at an even goal differential at 5 on 5 when he's not on the ice with ROR. He's got a positive 5 on 5 goal differential at 5 on 5 with Buch and/or Thomas. He isn't a good defensive player, but I see modest improvement since last season.

He's looking more and more worth the extension pretty much every day.

That Buch trade and contract keeps looking better and better. He's above point per game again and his play away from the puck is so damn good. He's 2nd among Blues forwards in ice time per game and has managed to be an even player on a team with a -18 goal differential. Forwards 3rd-6th in TOI per game are all -13 or worse.

Thomas is looking like a 1C. He's handled the increased ice time pretty well and his faceoff percentage is up 4 points from last year (which was already a stark improvement from where he was at in his first 3 NHL seasons). He's gone from being a complete liability at the dot to an asset at the dot in just 2 years. I don't think he's a finished product, but he's taken the step from a guy that can produce like hell as a 2C to a legitimate 1C.

Thomas, Kyrou and Buch are the only players I consider part of the 'core' out of our NHL forward group and I think they are/will be good enough to make up 3 of the best 5 forwards on a contender. Between them, the Neighbours/Bolduc/Snuggy prospect trio and the futures assets we should obtain in the next 6 months, I feel confident that the top 9 forward group should be contender quality from 2024/25 onward.

Everything else is the question for me.
 

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Looks like Jamie Rivers is with me on Binnington. Most of his bad games came when the team was playing its worst hockey, but to my eyes he's been battling all year and making most of the saves that he's supposed to make. He started the season locked in, then lost his mojo for awhile along with the rest of the team, but now he seems back on top of his game. The stats don't tell the whole story.

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Bobby Orrtuzzo

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Looks like Jamie Rivers is with me on Binnington. Most of his bad games came when the team was playing its worst hockey, but to my eyes he's been battling all year and making most of the saves that he's supposed to make. He started the season locked in, then lost his mojo for awhile along with the rest of the team, but now he seems back on top of his game. The stats don't tell the whole story.

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He’s had some brutal games/moments, but he’s also had a lot of tips/back door/odd man rush goals with dmen not covering/clearing out they’re guy.
 
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Interesting chart. The Blues are the worst team in the league at denying zone entries.

What does ‘carry against’ mean in this context?

Is there any chance this is a deliberate strategy to allow controlled zone entry steering the puck where the Blues want it, trying to set up for transition goals after the turnover? We are now a team that scores a fairly high percentage of goals on the rush.
 

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What does ‘carry against’ mean in this context?

Is there any chance this is a deliberate strategy to allow controlled zone entry steering the puck where the Blues want it, trying to set up for transition goals after the turnover? We are now a team that scores a fairly high percentage of goals on the rush.
I would have to think some of this chart is explained by coaching, but there's a clear and obvious correlation between points in the standings and position on this chart so if a lot of this can be explained by strategy it's likely a bad strategy.

It also doesn't seem to play out like we're targeting rush offense by doing this in the following chart, though I would suspect if the team is coached not to be aggressive at the blue line, it's more likely they are aiming to limit high quality chances by keeping opposing players to the outside versus worrying about exiting the zone.



Also wow these new logos are killing me.
 
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Renard

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I loved that big hit that Pitlick laid on one the Wild players in the defensive zone.

That ought to earn him a little more ice time.
 

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Saad is one of the weirdest players out there. Thanks to his recent hot streak, he's at his 2nd highest goals/game pace in his career, but I just don't get why he hasn't been at that type of level more consistently. He should be a slightly knock off version of Steen, but while still good, he's a much more knock off version of Steen. Good player, good defensively, just confused at why his offense has never been more consistent or why he's never been more of a driver offensively because he obviously has that ability.
 

bleedblue1223

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Well, if the boys want an opportunity to prove themselves, this is it. I don't think they can convince Army to become a buyer this season, that ship has sailed, and they probably can't convince him to keep both ROR and Tarasenko, but I think they can convince him that it's much more of a short re-tool, where Army can also buy some at the deadline if targets are youngish and long-term or buy in the off-season. How do the vets perform when their backs are against the wall.

A clean sweep of Calgary would be a big boost. Beating Nashville in regulation is another big one.

 

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Saad is one of the weirdest players out there. Thanks to his recent hot streak, he's at his 2nd highest goals/game pace in his career, but I just don't get why he hasn't been at that type of level more consistently. He should be a slightly knock off version of Steen, but while still good, he's a much more knock off version of Steen. Good player, good defensively, just confused at why his offense has never been more consistent or why he's never been more of a driver offensively because he obviously has that ability.
He seems more of a "I do what the Coach tells me to do" player.
 
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