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Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed

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SoundwaveIsCharisma said:
I was thinking more if they would do a swap around Girard for Necas, especially if TDA is going to get a massive raise.
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They got TDA off the bargain bin in the first place, there's other, more affordable alternatives out there that will not cost them a Necas to get.

And as much as I am the self-annointed Defender of Girard around these parts, no way in hell would I deal Necas for Sammy if I were Waddell, not after this season.
 
SirLoinOfCloth said:
The number of posters here trying to be edgy with their hot takes is seemingly growing exponentially. The same people who are quiet when we go 9-0-1 are suddenly very vocal when we've clinched the conference, are trying out new line combinations, resting key players. We've had nothing to play for really for 6 or so games. But some posters are using those games as some sort of indication of how this team will perform in the playoffs. Rather than the team with 56 wins this season.
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I totally get it. But you don’t want to see your team backing into the POs either. Just fatigue waiting for the POs to start.
 
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SoundwaveIsCharisma said:
What about gambling on Mason Marchment?
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Unless Nichushkin walks, I just don't know how Colorado affords a player like that.

Once Sakic gets the starting goalie and RFA situations straightened out, he probably has enough money left over for one big stab in free agency (or via trade). But with Kadri on his way out the door, I have to imagine Sakic goes after a center with that money.

I could maybe see Sakic squeezing in a 3rd line winger, but I'm not sure. I think cap wise, Colorado is where Toronto is: stars and scrubs. Hopefully Joe can find Nichushkin 2.0 in free agency.
 
flyfysher said:
I totally get it. But you don’t want to see your team backing into the POs either. Just fatigue waiting for the POs to start.
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Completely agree. Stumbling into the PO is not ideal. But the previous run of games is not indicative of how we will play in the PO, let's just pump the brakes on G sucks, Bednar sucks, Bura sucks, Kadri sucks, Rants sucks, Kuemper sucks,... etc There is just so much negativity because of a run of meaningless games, and we're still missing Landy, and Rants and Kadri are still finding their feet.
 
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I suppose I'd rather see the team play poorly and not win at this stage of the season as opposed to them playing poorly and still winning. That's more or less what cooked the Bolts a couple years ago. They raced out to that HUGE lead in the Prez race and just coasted down the second half of the season, playing awful hockey but still getting wins. This Avs team (hopefully) knows it can't coast come postseason.
 
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AvsGuy said:
Nichushkin better not leave that's all I'll say
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Agreed, but I also want to see this breakout season carry over into the playoffs. He was a complete non-factor in the last two postseasons IIRC. That's a guy you would automatically assume would dominate when it's clutch-and-grab time, but so far I don't believe that's been the case.
 
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Pokecheque said:
Agreed, but I also want to see this breakout season carry over into the playoffs. He was a complete non-factor in the last two postseasons IIRC. That's a guy you would automatically assume would dominate when it's clutch-and-grab time, but so far I don't believe that's been the case.
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Yup. He’s been less productive than Jost somehow in the playoffs. He has to actually step up this year.
 
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The Abusement Park said:
Yup. He’s been less productive than Jost somehow in the playoffs. He has to actually step up this year.
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Yea Nuke has been shit in the playoffs so far.

TBH he's been stapled to JTC (who is always playing middle 6 C in the playoffs) more often than not. Hopefully that will change this year.
 
Balthazar said:
Yea Nuke has been shit in the playoffs so far.

TBH he's been stapled to JTC (who is always playing middle 6 C in the playoffs) more often than not. Hopefully that will change this year.
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Even then JTC has been relatively productive in the playoffs. Well except for last year. But Nuke has been just as big a problem in the playoffs as some others but it doesn’t get get brought up.
 
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I still think the plan is to have Newhook to replace Kadri, keep both Bura and Nuke, needing to bring "just" a third liner.

but in case Bura walks too, they better bring a decent winger. my list would be, in order: Marchment > Forsberg > Rakell > Domi > Phil The Thrill > Nino > Kane.
 
Bone Breaker said:
I still think the plan is to have Newhook to replace Kadri, keep both Bura and Nuke, needing to bring "just" a third liner.

but in case Bura walks too, they better bring a decent winger. my list would be, in order: Marchment > Forsberg > Rakell > Domi > Phil The Thrill > Nino > Kane.
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That plan is so risky… Newhook isn’t ready to be a 2W nonetheless a 2C.
 
The Abusement Park said:
That plan is so risky… Newhook isn’t ready to be a 2W nonetheless a 2C.
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I think what will determine the path will be the incoming playoffs. if things go smoothly, theyll try to simply bump up Newhook. if things go south, theyll do more drastic things. btw if the team gets eliminated in first or second round, me too would be on board for drastic changes. Makar apart, everyone else on the table.
 
Is Newhook even playing center? He always starts games as a 3rd line winger.

Not jumping from 3rd line wing to 2C in one summer.
 
Seems pretty clear they like Newhook better on the wing, that sure looks like the plan going forward. Whether that's 2nd or 3rd line, I don't know, but I don't see him being a center for the Avs next year at all.
 
Newhook makes MacKinnon look like Rod Brind'Amour in the face-off circle. His 34.6% success rate is the 2nd worst is team history (min: 100 draws - Newhook has taken 390). It should come as no shock that Tyson Jost holds that title with 33.3% in 2020 (255 face-offs taken).

I don't know what Colorado is doing to do down the middle for the 2C next year, but they won't have a lot of money to do it.
 
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I don't know what Colorado is doing to do down the middle for the 2C next year, but they won't have a lot of money to do it.
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and this is the main reason why I think theyll bump Newhook. Mack also played wing before being put at C (different coaching staff but still), so I dont think they are set on having him as winger for the rest of his career. truth is they wont have many (good and affordable) options there and I also dont think being bad at face-offs will be a deterrent. in fact, looks more like for this management being bad at the drawn is a requisite to play in the Avs. lol
 
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Bone Breaker said:
and this is the main reason why I think theyll bump Newhook. Mack also played wing before being put at C (different coaching staff but still), so I dont think they are set on having him as winger for the rest of his career. truth is they wont have many (good and affordable) options there and I also dont think being bad at face-offs will be a deterrent. in fact, looks more like for this management being bad at the drawn is a requisite to play in the Avs. lol
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Seriously doubt they will just throw Newhook to the wolves next year because of cap issues when they won't even play him as a third line center now, and literally went out and got an NCAA free agent to presumably fill that role next year. Will they want him as a 2LW next year? Possibly, but not 2C, and not 3C either.

Cap room will be an issue next year, obviously, but that doesn't mean they have, like, less than $500,000 to fill the 2C role. If they don't re-sign Kadri and they find a way to divest themselves of both Erik Johnson and J.T. Compher, that's a LOT of cap room off the books right there.

Again, they could go for a guy signed to a relatively decent number in Schmaltz (though AZ will be asking for a pretty big return if that's the case), or they could make a FA run for one of the Stromes. I'm not a big fan of any of these options BTW, especially the latter, but they are absolutely not locked into either Kadri or Newhook for sure next season. There's also old-ass Stazz, but I think that ship sailed a long time ago.

An absolutely crazy idea would be to just offer up a decent one-year offer to Evgeni Malkin next season and see if he makes the jump. Doubt it, but it's worth a try.

I wouldn't mind the Avs making a run for Trocheck but that guy has BOSTON written all over him.
 
Bone Breaker said:
and this is the main reason why I think theyll bump Newhook. Mack also played wing before being put at C (different coaching staff but still), so I dont think they are set on having him as winger for the rest of his career. truth is they wont have many (good and affordable) options there and I also dont think being bad at face-offs will be a deterrent. in fact, looks more like for this management being bad at the drawn is a requisite to play in the Avs. lol
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They don't even have him playing C at all right now. He isn't going to be the 2C next that's almost a guarantee.
 
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